Once slow-moving threat, global warmi...

Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt...

There are 61482 comments on the Newsday story from Dec 14, 2008, titled Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt.... In it, Newsday reports that:

When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, global warming was a slow-moving environmental problem that was easy to ignore.

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paddyomalley

Bastrop, TX

#48855 Jul 13, 2014
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>Read more science instead of denier rumors.
One hundred and ten million tons of human-made CO2 are added daily into our breathing atmosphere, You lie at your own peril.
Try to read this long paper.. it will answer all your possible questions.
We assess climate impacts of global warming using ongoing observations and paleoclimate data. We use Earth’s measured energy imbalance, paleoclimate data, and simple representations of the global carbon cycle and temperature to define emission reductions needed to stabilize climate and avoid potentially disastrous impacts on today’s young people, future generations, and nature. A cumulative industrial-era limit of ~500 GtC fossil fuel emissions and 100 GtC storage in the biosphere and soil would keep climate close to the Holocene range to which humanity and other species are adapted. Cumulative emissions of ~1000 GtC, sometimes associated with 2°C global warming, would spur “slow” feedbacks and eventual warming of 3–4°C with disastrous consequences. Rapid emissions reduction is required to restore Earth’s energy balance and avoid ocean heat uptake that would practically guarantee irreversible effects. Continuation of high fossil fuel emissions, given current knowledge of the consequences, would be an act of extraordinary witting intergenerational injustice. Responsible policymaking requires a rising price on carbon emissions that would preclude emissions from most remaining coal and unconventional fossil fuels and phase down emissions from conventional fossil fuels.
P.S. It is in PLUS ONE. Eighteen auhors have done a monumental job. Look for human-made such as:
The long-term global warming trend is predominantly a forced climate change caused by increased human-made atmospheric gases, mainly CO2 [1].
Earth’s history reveals sea level changes of as much as a few meters per century, even though the natural climate forcings changed much more slowly than the present human-made forcing.
Vulnerabilities would be magnified by the speed of human-made climate change and the potentially large sea level rise [115].
Local human-made stresses add to the global warming and acidification effects, all of these driving a contraction of 1–2% per year in the abundance of reef-building corals [39]. Loss of the three-dimensional coral reef frameworks has consequences for all the species that depend on them. Loss of these frameworks also has consequences for the important roles that coral reefs play in supporting fisheries and protecting coastlines from wave stress. Consequences of lost coral reefs can be economically devastating for many nations, especially in combination with other impacts such as sea level rise and intensification of storms.
The detailed temporal and geographical response of the climate system to the rapid human-made change of climate forcings is not well-constrained by empirical data, because there is no faithful paleoclimate analog.
Ultimately, however, human-made climate change is more a matter of morality than a legal issue. Broad public support is probably needed to achieve the changes needed to phase out fossil fuel emissions. As with the issue of slavery and civil rights, public recognition of the moral dimensions of human-made climate change may be needed to stir the public’s conscience to the point of action.
Written by you, or Al Gore, or the nitwit across the hall from you. You have no clue to what is going on or why it goes on. The weather we have today has been here before. and will come again no matter what you do. This paper you cut and paste was not written by a climatologist with any standing.
SpaceBlues

United States

#48856 Jul 13, 2014
paddyomalley wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you insane or slow witted. Have you heard of the Four Major Ice Ages? Do you know how many times they each thawed and refroze in the millions of years they were hanging around? Do you know we are in the final stages of the last Ice Age? Have you heard of ocean currents and wind and what they do with the weather? Do you know anything? Man was not here for the deep freezes or their thaw, so quit repeating what is an obvious lie. There is no GW/CC due to man. You are just another dupe who thinks man can change the natural evolutions of the earth.
Don't you know you can't plug up science progress?

One hundred and ten million tons of human-made CO2 are added daily into our breathing atmosphere, You lie at your own peril.

Abstract: We assess climate impacts of global warming using ongoing observations and paleoclimate data. We use Earth’s measured energy imbalance, paleoclimate data, and simple representations of the global carbon cycle and temperature to define emission reductions needed to stabilize climate and avoid potentially disastrous impacts on today’s young people, future generations, and nature. A cumulative industrial-era limit of ~500 GtC fossil fuel emissions and 100 GtC storage in the biosphere and soil would keep climate close to the Holocene range to which humanity and other species are adapted. Cumulative emissions of ~1000 GtC, sometimes associated with 2°C global warming, would spur “slow” feedbacks and eventual warming of 3–4°C with disastrous consequences. Rapid emissions reduction is required to restore Earth’s energy balance and avoid ocean heat uptake that would practically guarantee irreversible effects. Continuation of high fossil fuel emissions, given current knowledge of the consequences, would be an act of extraordinary witting intergenerational injustice. Responsible policymaking requires a rising price on carbon emissions that would preclude emissions from most remaining coal and unconventional fossil fuels and phase down emissions from conventional fossil fuels.

P.S. It is in PLUS ONE. Eighteen auhors have done a monumental job.

The long-term global warming trend is predominantly a forced climate change caused by increased human-made atmospheric gases, mainly CO2 [1].

Earth’s history reveals sea level changes of as much as a few meters per century, even though the natural climate forcings changed much more slowly than the present human-made forcing.

Vulnerabilities would be magnified by the speed of human-made climate change and the potentially large sea level rise [115].

Local human-made stresses add to the global warming and acidification effects, all of these driving a contraction of 1–2% per year in the abundance of reef-building corals [39]. Loss of the three-dimensional coral reef frameworks has consequences for all the species that depend on them. Loss of these frameworks also has consequences for the important roles that coral reefs play in supporting fisheries and protecting coastlines from wave stress. Consequences of lost coral reefs can be economically devastating for many nations, especially in combination with other impacts such as sea level rise and intensification of storms.

The detailed temporal and geographical response of the climate system to the rapid human-made change of climate forcings is not well-constrained by empirical data, because there is no faithful paleoclimate analog.

Ultimately, however, human-made climate change is more a matter of morality than a legal issue. Broad public support is probably needed to achieve the changes needed to phase out fossil fuel emissions. As with the issue of slavery and civil rights, public recognition of the moral dimensions of human-made climate change may be needed to stir the public’s conscience to the point of action.
SpaceBlues

United States

#48857 Jul 13, 2014
paddyomalley wrote:
<quoted text>
Written by you, or Al Gore, or the nitwit across the hall from you. You have no clue to what is going on or why it goes on. The weather we have today has been here before. and will come again no matter what you do. This paper you cut and paste was not written by a climatologist with any standing.
I disagree.

What's it to you anyway? You are here to gossip.
Mothra

Tempe, AZ

#48858 Jul 13, 2014
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>Don't you know you can't plug up science progress?
One hundred and ten million tons of human-made CO2 are added daily into our breathing atmosphere,
.... and you add to it with your incessant whining posts.

You believe your "science"?

Prove it.

Shut up.
Mothra

Tempe, AZ

#48859 Jul 13, 2014
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>I disagree.
What's it to you anyway? You are here to gossip.
Nope.

You're here to add more CO2 that you say is already at "crisis" levels.

Are you this dimwitted in public, or just save it for Topix?
No Warming

Newark, OH

#48860 Jul 13, 2014
paddyomalley wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you insane or slow witted. Have you heard of the Four Major Ice Ages? Do you know how many times they each thawed and refroze in the millions of years they were hanging around? Do you know we are in the final stages of the last Ice Age? Have you heard of ocean currents and wind and what they do with the weather? Do you know anything? Man was not here for the deep freezes or their thaw, so quit repeating what is an obvious lie. There is no GW/CC due to man. You are just another dupe who thinks man can change the natural evolutions of the earth.
Read back thru the thread a little Dilbert and you'll understand.
No Warming

Newark, OH

#48861 Jul 13, 2014
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
<quoted text>
Add another whackadoodle....
When that's the best you've got its easy to see why this is becoming a dead issue. Less fact was full of crap but he always stuck with his story, " its in the deep ocean." LMAO

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#48862 Jul 14, 2014
No Warming wrote:
<quoted text>
When that's the best you've got its easy to see why this is becoming a dead issue. Less fact was full of crap but he always stuck with his story, " its in the deep ocean." LMAO
Just have to call it like it is. You whackadoodles have been presented with much evidence but have turned your back on the science in favor of RW agenda.

“Sharia, NOT!”

Since: Jul 10

Suffolk, VA

#48863 Jul 14, 2014
SpaceBalls wrote:
<quoted text>You have no basis for your claims, LOL.
You are billions of lights years away from science, sockit. Why do you hate yourself so much? Because you deserve it for your lies, misrepresentations, hoaxes, etc.
Others like you, former deniers such as gord, funfacts, stevecase, kal, giblets, etc, did exactly what you do these days, copy/paste denier trash. Then they stopped without apology or goodbye.
See the end, sockit.
Mommy, mommy! That lying liberal climate clown is avoiding facts and calling names again!
LOL
As many time you guys promote lies and anti-science does not make what you say true. It only proves your complete ignorance.
I have posted hardcore laws of physics and you call it trash. LOL What a maroon!
Mothra

Tempe, AZ

#48864 Jul 14, 2014
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
<quoted text>
Just have to call it like it is. You whackadoodles have been presented with much evidence but have turned your back on the science in favor of RW agenda.
Hypocrites are such phonies.
Mothra

Tempe, AZ

#48865 Jul 14, 2014
Ahh the start of another week.

Let's count how many posts the warmists make adding more CO2 to the atmosphere that according to their touted 'science' is already at "crisis" levels.

And then let's see how many of them even attempt to justify their blatant hypocrisy.

I predict hundreds for the first, and zero for the second.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#48866 Jul 14, 2014
Socialism is for Sissies wrote:
<quoted text>Mommy, mommy! That lying liberal climate clown is avoiding facts and calling names again!
LOL
As many time you guys promote lies and anti-science does not make what you say true. It only proves your complete ignorance.
I have posted hardcore laws of physics and you call it trash. LOL What a maroon!
You are mostly confused, sockit.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#48867 Jul 14, 2014
Deniers at the whineline..

SET GO.

Alas they are already passed the line, LOL. They even turned to right.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#48868 Jul 14, 2014
golly,. past the line, huh?

“I'm Hillary's Deplorable”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#48869 Jul 14, 2014
SpaceBlues wrote:
Don't you know you can't plug up science progress?
One hundred and ten million tons of human-made CO2 are added daily into our breathing atmosphere, You lie at your own peril.

Abstract: We assess climate impacts of global warming ... We use Earth’s measured energy imbalance,...simple representations of the global carbon cycle and temperature to define emission reductions needed to stabilize climate ... spur “slow” feedbacks ... Rapid emissions reduction is required to restore Earth’s energy balance ... extraordinary witting intergenerational injustice... a forced climate change caused by increased human-made atmospheric gases, mainly CO2 ... human-made change of climate forcings is not well-constrained by empirical data,... human-made climate change is more a matter of morality than a legal issue... As with the issue of slavery and civil rights, public recognition of the moral dimensions of human-made climate change may be needed to stir the public’s conscience to the point of action.
Human-made climate change is more a matter of religion that science too, when effects are not well constrained by empirical data then fear and faith takeover.

This is the new crusade of the left, demeaning the struggle against slavery, claiming civil rights are secondary to their climate carbon dogma and stirring up the mob against reason, science and justice.

“I'm Hillary's Deplorable”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#48870 Jul 14, 2014
There is no energy imbalance, it moves at the speed of light and is rebalanced every quantum moment under the laws of thermodynamics. The carbon cycle is fine, we haven't seen any individual, group or species stabilize or change climate.

If man hadn't evolved the ability to produce and use fossil fuel another species would and we'd be extinct. Fossil fuel do enormous benefit and allow us to live the lifestyles we enjoy today.

Don't hate carbon, you are carbon.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#48871 Jul 14, 2014
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Human-made climate change is more a matter of religion that science too, when effects are not well constrained by empirical data then fear and faith takeover.
This is the new crusade of the left, demeaning the struggle against slavery, claiming civil rights are secondary to their climate carbon dogma and stirring up the mob against reason, science and justice.
blah blah you post nonsense.

Why do you support extermination of Arabs ands Jews?

“I'm Hillary's Deplorable”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#48872 Jul 14, 2014
SpaceBlues wrote:
blah blah you post nonsense. Why do you support extermination of Arabs ands Jews?
What extermination of Arabs and why do you falsely accuse me of supporting extermination of anyone? Where can you find a post where I promote insult, hate or violence? That's not the way I roll, I condemn the extermination of the Jews and I'm curious what you mean, "extermination of Arabs". Please elaborate.

I find Israel's response to rocket fire on civilian targets disproportionate as long as rockets continue to fall on Israel there is no proportionality. Only when Hamas stops firing rockets into Israel will the Israelis become proportionate. Hamas profane religious sites and hide behind civilians. The are responsible for the collateral deaths, not Israel. The aggressor sets the rules in war and other violent conflict.
paddyomalley

Bastrop, TX

#48873 Jul 14, 2014
You Caliphonians are out on the edge man. Do any of you ever wake up and face reality.
Washington DC

Corona Del Mar, CA

#48874 Jul 14, 2014
And what's Obama focusing on today? Global warmitization?

The big IFTAR dinner tonight! Should be fun!
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