Once slow-moving threat, global warmi...

Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt...

There are 58890 comments on the Newsday story from Dec 14, 2008, titled Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt.... In it, Newsday reports that:

When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, global warming was a slow-moving environmental problem that was easy to ignore.

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litesong

Everett, WA

#47997 Jun 18, 2014
SpaceBlues wrote:
Earth is on the brink of a mass extinction event comparable in scale to the one that wiped out the dinosaurs 65 million years ago. The researchers found that extinction rates are currently 1000 times higher than normal.....
http://www.wsbradio.com/videos/news/study-say...
The study states, that education could help avoid mass extinction. Unfortunately, that eliminates all sleazy, slimy, steenking, toxic topix AGW denier liars, from being part of the solution.......... maybe, fortunately........

“Amor patriae.”

Since: Feb 08

Eastern Oregon

#47998 Jun 18, 2014
litesong wrote:
<quoted text>
The study states, that education
...in prestigious liberal institutions, becoming a Democrat, electing Democrats, giving to green non-profits, supporting higher taxes, paying higher prices and curtailing personal liberties are all that's required so that YOU can claim credit for saving the planet. Everyone else will be blamed for the 'coming' disaster.

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#47999 Jun 19, 2014
litesong wrote:
The study states, that education could help avoid mass extinction. Unfortunately, that eliminates all sleazy, slimy, steenking, toxic topix AGW denier liars, from being part of the solution.......... maybe, fortunately........
litesong, Like my new avatar? I wear it to honor your people.

Good thing everybody doesn't think like litesong.

“Amor patriae.”

Since: Feb 08

Eastern Oregon

#48000 Jun 19, 2014
Karl Marx describes in his communist manifesto, the ten steps necessary to destroy a free enterprise system and replace it with a system of omnipotent government power, so as to affect a communist socialist state. Those ten steps are known as the Ten Planks of The Communist Manifesto… The following brief presents the original ten planks within the Communist Manifesto written by Karl Marx in 1848, along with the American adopted counterpart for each of the planks. From comparison it’s clear MOST Americans have by myths, fraud and deception under the color of law by their own politicians in both the Republican and Democratic and parties, been transformed into Communists.
Another thing to remember, Karl Marx in creating the Communist Manifesto designed these planks as a test to determine whether a society has become communist or not. If they are all in effect and in force, then the people are practicing communists.
Communism, by any other name is still communism, and is very, very destructive to the individual and to the society. The ten planks stated in the Communist Manifesto and some of their American counterparts are…
1. Abolition of private property and the application of all rents of land to public purposes.
Americans do these with actions such as the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution (1868), and various zoning, school & property taxes. Also the Bureau of Land Management (Zoning laws are the first step to government property ownership)
2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
Americans know this as misapplication of the 16th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, 1913, The Social Security Act of 1936. Joint House Resolution 192 of 1933; and various State “income” taxes. We call it “paying your fair share”.
3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.
Americans call it Federal & State estate Tax (1916); or reformed Probate Laws, and limited inheritance via arbitrary inheritance tax statutes.
4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
Americans call it government seizures, tax liens, Public “law” 99-570 (1986); Executive order 11490, sections 1205, 2002 which gives private land to the Department of Urban Development; the imprisonment of “terrorists” and those who speak out or write against the “government”(1997 Crime/Terrorist Bill); or the IRS confiscation of property without due process. Asset forfeiture laws are used by DEA, IRS, ATF etc…).
5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
Americans call it the Federal Reserve which is a privately-owned credit/debt system allowed by the Federal Reserve act of 1913. All local banks are members of the Fed system, and are regulated by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) another privately-owned corporation. The Federal Reserve Banks issue Fiat Paper Money and practice economically destructive fractional reserve banking.

“Amor patriae.”

Since: Feb 08

Eastern Oregon

#48001 Jun 19, 2014
6. Centralization of the means of communications and transportation in the hands of the State.
Americans call it the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) and Department of Transportation (DOT) mandated through the ICC act of 1887, the Commissions Act of 1934, The Interstate Commerce Commission established in 1938, The Federal Aviation Administration, Federal Communications Commission, and Executive orders 11490, 10999, as well as State mandated driver’s licenses and Department of Transportation regulations.
7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state, the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
Americans call it corporate capacity, The Desert Entry Act and The Department of Agriculture… Thus read “controlled or subsidized” rather than “owned”… This is easily seen in these as well as the Department of Commerce and Labor, Department of Interior, the Environmental Protection Agency, Bureau of Land Management, Bureau of Reclamation, Bureau of Mines, National Park Service, and the IRS control of business through corporate regulations.
8. Equal liability of all to labor. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
Americans call it Minimum Wage and slave labor like dealing with our Most Favored Nation trade partner; i.e. Communist China. We see it in practice via the Social Security Administration and The Department of Labor. The National debt and inflation caused by the communal bank has caused the need for a two “income” family. Woman in the workplace since the 1920&#8242;s, the 19th amendment of the U.S. Constitution, the Civil Rights Act of 1964, assorted Socialist Unions, affirmative action, the Federal Public Works Program and of course Executive order 11000.
9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries, gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country, by a more equitable distribution of population over the country.
Americans call it the Planning Reorganization act of 1949 , zoning (Title 17 1910-1990) and Super Corporate Farms, as well as Executive orders 11647, 11731 (ten regions) and Public “law” 89-136. These provide for forced relocations and forced sterilization programs, like in China.
10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children’s factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production.
Americans are being taxed to support what we call ‘public’ schools, but are actually “government force-tax-funded schools ” Even private schools are government regulated. The purpose is to train the young to work for the communal debt system. We also call it the Department of Education, the NEA and Outcome Based “Education”. These are used so that all children can be indoctrinated and inculcated with the government propaganda, like “majority rules”, and “pay your fair share”. Where are the words “fair share” in the Constitution, Bill of Rights or the Internal Revenue Code (Title 26)? Nowhere is “fair share” even suggested.
The philosophical concept of “fair share” comes from the Communist maxim,“From each according to their ability, to each according to their need! This concept is pure socialism.… America was made the greatest society by its private initiative WORK ETHIC … Teaching ourselves and others how to “fish” to be self sufficient and produce plenty of EXTRA commodities to if so desired could be shared with others who might be “needy”… Americans have always voluntarily been the MOST generous and charitable society on the planet.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#48002 Jun 19, 2014
OzRitz wrote:
<quoted text>
That's the thing with you guys, it doesn't matter whether it's trees, sky or an asteroid falling you would still deny any of it. Fact is nature is all intertwined, over fishing, over polluting, land clearing and everything else. It all plays a role in our environment as it does with the climate. Facts are human expansion plays a significant role and it's impact on the planet.
What is worse the driving force "Capitalism" takes no prisoners along the way, it doesn't matter if it's a poacher in Africa killing Elephants for tusks or a farmer in Brazil clearing rain forests for cattle or even a oil rig in the Gulf. Considering we are at the top of the food chain with intelligence we also have to power to turn that all around by valuing clean above dirty. Then Capitalism would do the work for us in a blink of an eye. Selective ignorance never seems to take that in. That was the whole point of pricing carbon in the first place.
This is something the cons don't want to admit, that capitalism, their god, can not correct everything. They use middle school tactics because they have no real facts supporting their arguments. Their best defense is to denigrate liberals as progressives. Alas, what is the opposite or progressive? But in their defense of capitalism, they will risk the very planet they live on and their children and grandchildren for an ideology.

The Earth is warming. CO2 is a GHG. Burning fossil fuels increases the CO2 in the atmosphere. They cannot admit this because fossil fuels grease the wheels of capitalism.
litesong

Everett, WA

#48003 Jun 19, 2014
[QUOTE who="lyin' brian"]doesn't think like litesong.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE who="lyin' brian"]I'm trying to develop arguments to appeal to......[/QUOTE]

Once the "brian_g" is pealed off "lyin' brian", a true argument of "lyin brian" is revealed:

"lyin' brian" developed into a sleazy slimy steenking toxic topix AGW denier liar, & into a sleazy slimy steenking filthy vile reprobate rooting (& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AGW denier liar & 4-time alleged & 4-time proud threatener.

Because "lyin' brian" has no science or mathematics, it developed errors of 1 million TIMES, 1000 TIMES, 3000 TIMES, 73+ million TIMES, 2.5+ trillion TIMES, & 3.5+ trillion TIMES.
SpaceBlues

Tomball, TX

#48004 Jun 19, 2014
mdbuilder wrote:
<quoted text>
Your links work as good as your computer models.
Thanks for your compliment. Topix should note.

Also..fyi.

Examination of the passenger pigeon's genetic code shows that their population ping-ponged regularly from as much as 5 billion to as few as tens of millions, said a study co-authored by Zink in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences released Monday. Still, the chief causes of the extinction — cutting down Eastern U.S. forests and hunting — were man-made, Zink said.

“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#48005 Jun 19, 2014
warmists aren't in the realm of facts. they dwell in the house of predictions.
litesong

Everett, WA

#48006 Jun 19, 2014
ratdownthemiddledownwronggully wrote:
....his link posting fail rate isn't THAT bad!
They work for me! Glad you don't like to pursue science, mathematics & Truth.
litesong

Everett, WA

#48007 Jun 19, 2014
mudbuilder wrote:
......becoming a Democrat, electing Democrats.....
"mudbuilder" means, anyone who ain't a re-pubic-lick-un, libertarian (lazy re-pubic-lick-un), or tea bagger(out-of-control re-pubic-lick-un---redundant) & doesn't love re-pubic-lick-un gerrymandering, so the increasingly tiny re-pubic-lick-un minority can stiil hold more power than their numbers should have.

Since: Mar 14

Coorparoo, Australia

#48008 Jun 19, 2014
I saw a documentary. The oil industry puts money into bagging global warming. Capitalism is my enemy. Consumerism and a finite planet. Stu

“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#48009 Jun 19, 2014
litesong wrote:
<quoted text>
They work for me! Glad you don't like to pursue science, mathematics & Truth.
who was talking to you, attention seeker? oh, wait a minute, are you and 'spacey' one in the same? that would make sense as you both post in a juvenile manner.

how many birds did you kill yesterday, honcho?
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#48010 Jun 19, 2014
Then on Sept. 1, 1914, Martha was found lying on the bottom of her cage. The passenger pigeon was now extinct. It had gone from billions of birds to zero in about one century, probably less.

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#48011 Jun 19, 2014
The case of the passenger pigeon is further evidence climate change mitigation is a hoax and man made catastrophic climate disruption is pseudoscience: The Passenger Pigeon died out because of over hunting and habitat destruction, no creature has ever been extinguished by man made global warming.

“Amor patriae.”

Since: Feb 08

Eastern Oregon

#48012 Jun 19, 2014
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>Thanks for your compliment. Topix should note.
Also..fyi.
Examination of the passenger pigeon's genetic code shows that their population ping-ponged regularly from as much as 5 billion to as few as tens of millions, said a study co-authored by Zink in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences released Monday. Still, the chief causes of the extinction — cutting down Eastern U.S. forests and hunting — were man-made, Zink said.
Ping-pong long enough and the ball will fall off the table. They weren't the most intelligent of birds, like the dodo. Take heed, there's a warning in there for you guys.

“Amor patriae.”

Since: Feb 08

Eastern Oregon

#48013 Jun 19, 2014
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>who was talking to you, attention seeker? oh, wait a minute, are you and 'spacey' one in the same? that would make sense as you both post in a juvenile manner.
how many birds did you kill yesterday, honcho?
Oh, they're one in the same alright. The only difference between them is their names.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#48014 Jun 19, 2014
Brian_G wrote:
The case of the passenger pigeon is further evidence climate change mitigation is a hoax and man made catastrophic climate disruption is pseudoscience: The Passenger Pigeon died out because of over hunting and habitat destruction, no creature has ever been extinguished by man made global warming.
So wait for another science report, huh?

Then you want no science progress, duh.

Human-caused environmental changes are creating regional combinations of environmental conditions that, within the next 50 to 100 years, may fall outside the envelope within which many of the terrestrial plants of a region evolved. These environmental modifications might become a greater cause of global species extinction than direct habitat destruction. The environmental constraints undergoing human modification include levels of soil nitrogen, phosphorus, calcium and pH, atmospheric CO2, herbivore, pathogen, and predator densities, disturbance regimes, and climate. Extinction would occur because the physiologies, morphologies, and life histories of plants limit each species to being a superior competitor for a particular combination of environmental constraints. Changes in these constraints would favor a few species that would competitively displace many other species from a region. In the long-term, the “weedy” taxa that became the dominants of the novel conditions imposed by global change should become the progenitors of a series of new species that are progressively less weedy and better adapted to the new conditions. The relative importance of evolutionary versus community ecology responses to global environmental change would depend on the extent of regional and local recruitment limitation, and on whether the suite of human-imposed constraints were novel just regionally or on continental or global scales.
Mothra

Tempe, AZ

#48015 Jun 19, 2014
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>So wait for another science report, huh?
Why bother? You don't heed any of the dire "crisis" warnings of any report.

You just keep on posting and posting... knowing full well that you're adding more CO2 into the atmosphere that the "science" you claim to support is already at "tipping point".

You are a hypocrite... and demonstrate it again and again with each post.

SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#48016 Jun 19, 2014
Mothra wrote:
<quoted text>
Why bother? You don't heed any of the dire "crisis" warnings of any report.
You just keep on posting and posting... knowing full well that you're adding more CO2 into the atmosphere that the "science" you claim to support is already at "tipping point".
You are a hypocrite... and demonstrate it again and again with each post.
Scientists may be liable if they don't warn a la Italy earthquakes, duh.

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