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litesong

Everett, WA

#47940 Jun 17, 2014
litesong wrote:
Might be more trees today, but very few of the original big bio-mass virgin trees. The logging industry tried their propagandistic "super trees" growth patterns, but the building trades found that fast growing super trees made for sub-standard wood strengths. & now, with some eastern regions on the 5th & 6th(?) secondary growths, the soils are not supplying proper nutrients for strong wood products.
Your wife & you are a prime example of the logging industry & the Forestry service working together to disassemble Gifford Pinchot's powerful implementation of proper nearly sustainable forest practices. Again, you think that reforestations is all that the logging industry must do.
Of course, Gifford Pinchot (& even now, the present Forestry service, & you) ain't addressing nutrient loss in soils.

After six generations of cuttings soils are poor. Like farm soils, much greater care is needed to maintain forest soils, to truly be sustainable. You know this, but you deflect the conversation.
Now, don't think Pinchot is on the logging industry's side, tho his am was sustainability. Pinchot fought against industry (& industry's influence in gov't) his entire life. Tho he convinced much of the logging industry to stop their wanton forest slaughter, many of his practices laid down in the 19th century, have been intruded on by present loggers, despite the logging industry's propaganda PEE-R sustainability strategy to make them look good in the public eye.
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"ratdownthemiddledownwron ggully" gushed:
if you're gonna just make up shyt ....... and tell lies......
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litesong wrote:
"ratdownthemiddledownwron ggully" has nothing to oppose the truth of Gifford Pinchot & present scientific forestry, even after logging & business had 100+ years to oppose & implement policies to continue their desecration of American landscapes.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#47941 Jun 17, 2014
mdbuilder wrote:
<quoted text>
There are more trees in America now, than when the Pilgrims landed.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/23/new-...
No, not at all true.

But thanks for confirming what I posted before.

P.S. Obviously, you don't know what you publish, LOL.

Since the beginning of the Industrial Revolution (taken as the year 1750), the burning of fossil fuels and extensive clearing of native forests has contributed to a 40% increase in the atmospheric concentration of carbon dioxide, from 280 to 392.6 parts per million (ppm) in 2012.[5][6] and has now reached 400 ppm in the northern hemisphere. This increase has occurred despite the uptake of a large portion of the emissions by various natural "sinks" involved in the carbon cycle.[7][8] Anthropogenic carbon dioxide (CO
2) emissions (i.e., emissions produced by human activities) come from combustion of carbon-based fuels, principally wood, coal, oil, and natural gas.[9] Under ongoing greenhouse gas emissions, available Earth System Models project that the Earth's surface temperature could exceed historical analogs as early as 2047 affecting most ecosystems on Earth and the livelihoods of over 3 billion people worldwide.[10] Greenhouse gases also trigger[clarification needed] ocean bio-geochemical changes with broad ramifications in marine systems.[11
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#47942 Jun 17, 2014
Except wrote:
<quoted text> Well meaning environmentalist have destroyed more habitats than any other group.
HOW is that?

The truth: Since the beginning of the Industrial Revolution (taken as the year 1750), the burning of fossil fuels and extensive clearing of native forests has contributed to a 40% increase in the atmospheric concentration of carbon dioxide, from 280 to 392.6 parts per million (ppm) in 2012.[5][6] and has now reached 400 ppm in the northern hemisphere. This increase has occurred despite the uptake of a large portion of the emissions by various natural "sinks" involved in the carbon cycle.[7][8] Anthropogenic carbon dioxide (CO
2) emissions (i.e., emissions produced by human activities) come from combustion of carbon-based fuels, principally wood, coal, oil, and natural gas.[9] Under ongoing greenhouse gas emissions, available Earth System Models project that the Earth's surface temperature could exceed historical analogs as early as 2047 affecting most ecosystems on Earth and the livelihoods of over 3 billion people worldwide.[10] Greenhouse gases also trigger[clarification needed] ocean bio-geochemical changes with broad ramifications in marine systems.[11
litesong

Everett, WA

#47943 Jun 17, 2014
except wrote:
Well meaning environmentalist(sic) have destroyed more habitats than any other group.
Correction:
Environmentalists have ended more habitat destroying logging & business plans than any other group.

Since: Mar 09

Wichita, KS

#47944 Jun 17, 2014
Except wrote:
<quoted text> Well meaning environmentalist have destroyed more habitats than any other group.
That is just a dumb statement. Sounds like old Rush!
Except

Hollywood, FL

#47945 Jun 17, 2014
litesong wrote:
<quoted text>
Correction:
Environmentalists have ended more habitat destroying logging & business plans than any other group.
Environmentalist are responsible for the destruction of the rain forest. The plastic water bottle and the single most destructive thing THE PLASTIC shopping bag.

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#47946 Jun 17, 2014
SpaceBlues wrote:
HOW is that? The truth: Since the beginning of the Industrial Revolution (taken as the year 1750), the burning of fossil fuels and extensive clearing of native forests has contributed to a 40% increase in the atmospheric concentration of carbon dioxide, from 280 to 392.6 parts per million (ppm) in 2012.
We don't know how much atmospheric change is caused by burning fossil fuels or extensive clearing of native forests, there's never been an experimental test to measure change in atmospheric carbon dioxide after a man made emission or clear-cut event. Our emissions and habitat use seems too small to experimentally measure the effect on the atmosphere. We also don't know what effect our CO2 has on climate because that's never been experimentally tested either. We don't know how much carbon sequestration helps or if restricting CO2 emissions is less expensive than the consequences, there's no experimental data.

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SpaceBlues wrote:
and has now reached 400 ppm in the northern hemisphere. This increase has occurred despite the uptake of a large portion of the emissions by various natural "sinks" involved in the carbon cycle.[7][8] Anthropogenic carbon dioxide (CO
2) emissions (i.e., emissions produced by human activities) come from combustion of carbon-based fuels, principally wood, coal, oil, and natural gas.[9] Under ongoing greenhouse gas emissions, available Earth System Models project that the Earth's surface temperature could exceed historical analogs as early as 2047 affecting most ecosystems on Earth and the livelihoods of over 3 billion people worldwide.[10] Greenhouse gases also trigger[clarification needed] ocean bio-geochemical changes with broad ramifications in marine systems.[11
Don't think of our carbon emissions as a tiny fraction of the atmosphere, think of man made greenhouse emissions like an enormous growing erection slowly entering Mother Nature's loose and sky big vagina, just for laughs. What's not to love about global warming?
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#47947 Jun 17, 2014
These deniers are desperately arrogant.

skepticalscience.com
Except

Hollywood, FL

#47948 Jun 17, 2014
The next great environmental disaster courtesy of the greenies will be the throngs of the poor and starving because of high energy costs and restricted crops. Poor people pollute more don't recycle. Thanks greenies.
Los Angeles

Los Angeles, CA

#47949 Jun 17, 2014
mdbuilder wrote:
<quoted text>
There are more trees in America now, than when the Pilgrims landed.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/23/new-...
It depends on the location.

There are more trees now in Southern California than when the Pilgrims landed. Guaranteed.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#47950 Jun 17, 2014
Watch this.. Meltwater Pulse 2B

http://skepticalscience.com/new-video-meltwat...
Los Angeles

Los Angeles, CA

#47951 Jun 17, 2014
Instead of working on global warming and climate changing, President Obama tonight will go to a LGBT Gala:

Who asks who to dance at an LGBT Gala?

4:35 PM
The President arrives New York, NY
John F. Kennedy International Airport
Open Press
5:25 PM
The President attends a Senate Majority PAC roundtable event
Intercontinental Hotel - New York
Closed Press
8:05 PM
The President delivers remarks at the DNC LGBT Gala
Gotham Hall - New York
Expanded Pool Press
9:00 PM
The President attends a DNC roundtable
Private Residence - New York
Closed Press

“Sharia, NOT!”

Since: Jul 10

Chesapeake, VA

#47952 Jun 17, 2014
mdbuilder wrote:
<quoted text>
There are more trees in America now, than when the Pilgrims landed.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/23/new-...
Exactly!!!!!
Let's not forget that plants love and NEED CO2. Kill the CO2, kill the planet!
Except

Hollywood, FL

#47953 Jun 17, 2014
Los Angeles wrote:
Instead of working on global warming and climate changing, President Obama tonight will go to a LGBT Gala:
Who asks who to dance at an LGBT Gala?
4:35 PM
The President arrives New York, NY
John F. Kennedy International Airport
Open Press
5:25 PM
The President attends a Senate Majority PAC roundtable event
Intercontinental Hotel - New York
Closed Press
8:05 PM
The President delivers remarks at the DNC LGBT Gala
Gotham Hall - New York
Expanded Pool Press
9:00 PM
The President attends a DNC roundtable
Private Residence - New York
Closed Press
Laser focus on jobs.

“Sharia, NOT!”

Since: Jul 10

Chesapeake, VA

#47954 Jun 17, 2014
SpaceBlues wrote:
These deniers are desperately arrogant.
skepticalscience.com
These Climate Clowns are terribly ignorant.

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#47955 Jun 17, 2014
SpaceBlues wrote:
These deniers are desperately arrogant.
Our President's using the word "denier" for climate change mitigation skeptics too, it's getting deep here.

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SpaceBlues wrote:
Watch this.. Meltwater Pulse 2B [URL delelted]
Woo woo meltwater post science. Don't panic S.B., meltwater freezes in winter have saved our Earth from meltwater pulse over every one of the past 2,443,234,117 years. Climate is chaotic and complex, man evolved to adapt to climate change all over the world, not to mitigate climate change.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#47956 Jun 17, 2014
Oh look at them..

The leaders of China and the UK have declared the threat of global warming to be “one of the greatest challenges facing the world”, and have called on all nations to reveal their action plans well ahead of a major climate summit set for Paris in late 2015.

In a joint statement released on Tuesday by UK Prime Minister David Cameron and his visiting Chinese counterpart, Premier Li Keqiang, the leaders said climate change was already happening,“much of it as a result of human activity”.

“The odds of extreme weather events, which threaten lives and property, have increased,” the statement said, citing the recent reports by the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.“Sea levels are rising, and ice is melting faster than we expected.”

In a nod to the severe pollution frequently enveloping many Chinese cities, the statement added:“In addition, the burning of fossil fuels creates serious air pollution, affecting quality of life for millions. Both sides recognise that climate change and air pollution share many of the same root causes, as well as many of the same solutions.”

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/environment/china-and-t...

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#47958 Jun 17, 2014
Oh look, China's not interested in restricting greenhouse gas emissions and prefer economic growth, increasing CO2 emissions and prosperity. Our economic slump drives Chinese unemployment, low wages and poor work conditions.

High sulfur fuels contaminated by heavy metals, incomplete combustion and poor ash management drives China's pollution problem, not carbon dioxide.

“Let's X Change!!”

Since: Feb 09

B4 HOPE Is Gone...

#47959 Jun 17, 2014
SpaceBlues wrote:
“The odds of extreme weather events, which threaten lives and property, have increased,” the statement said, citing the recent reports by the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.
oh, look at you! someone needs to get their story straight, son. here's what the hacks at the ipcc stated in their last assessment.

...In its [IPCC] newly released Fifth Assessment Report, the panel backed away from connections between current droughts and climate change. As it noted:“Based on updated studies, AR4 conclusions regarding global increasing trends in drought since the 1970s were probably overstated,” and “there is not enough evidence at present to suggest more than low confidence in a global-scale observed trend in drought or dryness (lack of rainfall) since the middle of the 20th century.” The report states that “it is likely that the frequency and intensity of drought has … decreased in central North America and north-west Australia since 1950.

The new report delivers a similar verdict for other sorts of extreme weather:“There is low confidence in any long term increases in tropical cyclone activity … and low confidence in attributing global changes to any particular cause.” Any increased hurricane damages “have not been conclusively attributed to anthropogenic climate change; most such claims are not based on scientific attribution methods.” There is “low confidence” for trends on tornadoes, and “the evidence for climate driven changes in river floods is not compelling.

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#47960 Jun 17, 2014
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>HOW is that?

The truth: Since the beginning of the Industrial Revolution (taken as the year 1750), the burning of fossil fuels and extensive clearing of native forests has contributed to a 40% increase in the atmospheric concentration of carbon dioxide, from 280 to 392.6 parts per million (ppm) in 2012.[5][6] and has now reached 400 ppm in the northern hemisphere. This increase has occurred despite the uptake of a large portion of the emissions by various natural "sinks" involved in the carbon cycle.[7][8] Anthropogenic carbon dioxide (CO
2) emissions (i.e., emissions produced by human activities) come from combustion of carbon-based fuels, principally wood, coal, oil, and natural gas.[9] Under ongoing greenhouse gas emissions, available Earth System Models project that the Earth's surface temperature could exceed historical analogs as early as 2047 affecting most ecosystems on Earth and the livelihoods of over 3 billion people worldwide.[10] Greenhouse gases also trigger[clarification needed] ocean bio-geochemical changes with broad ramifications in marine systems.[11
Space Cadet.

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