Once slow-moving threat, global warmi...

Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt...

There are 63322 comments on the Newsday story from Dec 14, 2008, titled Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt.... In it, Newsday reports that:

When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, global warming was a slow-moving environmental problem that was easy to ignore.

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“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#47695 Jun 11, 2014
Aphelion wrote:
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They never will ... but will continue to claim their theories as proven science.
One would believe that if the catastrophic damage they claim co2 is causing were real....they'd be a little less hypocritical in their use fossil fuels. They love to waste it, however, by spewing pseudoscience and idiocy every day.

“Hillary, thirty years of lying”

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#47696 Jun 11, 2014
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>One would believe that if the catastrophic damage they claim co2 is causing were real....they'd be a little less hypocritical in their use fossil fuels. They love to waste it, however, by spewing pseudoscience and idiocy every day.
Gosh, can you believe Obama's carbon foot print and co2 trail with the millions of miles of empty campaign speeches and vacations.

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#47697 Jun 11, 2014
mdbuilder wrote:
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Don't make yourself look more foolish than you already have. Contrary to what you feel, there are some very bright people out here that are much smarter than you and many of your scientists. They have a consensus of their own, based on the facts as they see them. Now you're a denier.
In any Democracy the job of the government is to implement the will of the people. Both in Canada and in Australia poll after poll shows climate change a real threat and the people want action. In Canada polls show that only 2% take your view and in Australia its 12%- 16% depending on the poll. So that speaks for itself, yet your view on climate is no different than Mcarthyism in the 50's when it was decided by the GOP that it would be a good idea to link communism with the democratic side of politics. It's now in your DNA regardless of what the facts are and climate change is no different. You have adopted it as the new fear to address but not the climate itself only the people who support measures to address it.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#47698 Jun 11, 2014
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>you also wager that man made co2 is driving the planet's climate.
are you always broke?
I never wagered that, but if I did, I would break the bank. It would help you to understand how CO2 influences the temperature if you took some basic science courses. The Earth is warming. CO2 is a GHG. Burning fossil fuels causes the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere to increase. That is all you need to know.

“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#47699 Jun 11, 2014
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
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I never wagered that, but if I did, I would break the bank. It would help you to understand how CO2 influences the temperature if you took some basic science courses. The Earth is warming. CO2 is a GHG. Burning fossil fuels causes the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere to increase. That is all you need to know.
your myopic understanding of science why you haven't broken the bank, huh, son?
if you were really so sure.....why haven't you put your money where your mouth is, hmmm?
also....why are you wasting co2 needlessly while spreading your propaganda instead of conserving your own emissions?
co2 heat amplification diminishes in pretty short order. so does the effect of absurd warmist claims.
peace!!

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#47700 Jun 11, 2014
So a thing to note: Neither Canada's PM or Australia's PM are representing the WILL of the people they are pushing their own agenda which is the opposite of the people they represent. Just like you deniers who want to believe you are representing the popular view. But the reality now even in the red states 2/3rds of the people want the government to take action. So you are just a voice in the wilderness that no one is listening to.

“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#47701 Jun 11, 2014
OzRitz wrote:
So a thing to note: Neither Canada's PM or Australia's PM are representing the WILL of the people they are pushing their own agenda which is the opposite of the people they represent. Just like you deniers who want to believe you are representing the popular view. But the reality now even in the red states 2/3rds of the people want the government to take action. So you are just a voice in the wilderness that no one is listening to.
then what are you afraid of?

also.....what is government going to do that will change the climate? seriously!!

maybe they could change the weather first?! you know....crawl before you walk.

one more time.......what does a consensus have to do with science?

why only mention red states? are you promoting a political agenda or a scientific hoax?
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#47702 Jun 11, 2014
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>..co2 heat amplification diminishes in pretty short order. so does the effect of absurd warmist claims.
peace!!
LOL. Your claims are not based on peer-reviewd science.

What a joke! A short order of ribs?

BWAHAHAHA
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#47703 Jun 11, 2014
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>i've found that the minor ghg, co2, can absorb some heat,....but it is not a climate driver...?
So what's driving the modern global warming if not the man-made supplement of ghg's to the natural?

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#47705 Jun 11, 2014
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>then what are you afraid of?
also.....what is government going to do that will change the climate? seriously!!
maybe they could change the weather first?! you know....crawl before you walk.
one more time.......what does a consensus have to do with science?
why only mention red states? are you promoting a political agenda or a scientific hoax?
No one is claiming to control the weather, that's your lot making these claims.
The whole point of taking action is to reduce emissions using technology or renewables. If we have to put a price on carbon, then so be it. That's all this is about doing something, so it
doesn't get worse. Obama's 30% reduction is a good thing even tho the GOP are ranting & raving it means nothing. I can bet you know the next climate meet , will bring China & Asia on board as well. The other thing you don't even think about is the impact this will have on the middle east as fossil slowly becomes a less valuable commodity. It will turn politics on its head in the middle east at the moment extremism is running rampant over there.

“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#47706 Jun 11, 2014
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>LOL. Your claims are not based on peer-reviewd science.
What a joke! A short order of ribs?
BWAHAHAHA
everyone knows that if you doubled the amount of co2 it wouldn't come close to doubling temperature, son. well....everyone but you and a few other uninformed zealots here.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#47708 Jun 11, 2014
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>your myopic understanding of science why you haven't broken the bank, huh, son?
if you were really so sure.....why haven't you put your money where your mouth is, hmmm?
also....why are you wasting co2 needlessly while spreading your propaganda instead of conserving your own emissions?
co2 heat amplification diminishes in pretty short order. so does the effect of absurd warmist claims.
peace!!
I don't take advantage of the weak and uneducated.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#47709 Jun 11, 2014
Lord Hater wrote:
Fact.The Earth was covered with ice and snow.
Fact. It melted.
Fact. Man had nothing to do with it.
When was the world covered with Ice and snow?
When did it all melt?
Your third statement is about as intelligent as the first two.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#47710 Jun 11, 2014
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>everyone knows that if you doubled the amount of co2 it wouldn't come close to doubling temperature, son. well....everyone but you and a few other uninformed zealots here.
Say what?

You are the source, LOL. Support, won't you?
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#47711 Jun 11, 2014
Lord Hater wrote:
<quoted text> What drove it to end the ice age
You've answered, Loafer.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#47712 Jun 11, 2014
Scientists say that doubling pre-industrial carbon dioxide levels will likely cause global average surface temperature to rise between 1.5° and 4.5° Celsius (2.7° to 8.1° Fahrenheit) compared to pre-industrial temperatures.(Current concentrations are about 1.4 times pre-industrial levels.) The full process could take hundreds of years—perhaps more than a thousand—to play out. Climate scientists call the full temperature rise from doubled carbon dioxide concentrations the equilibrium climate sensitivity.

To understand how sensitive the climate is to carbon dioxide on time frames of a century or less, scientists also study the transient climate sensitivity. They imagine that carbon dioxide will continue to increase at roughly the rate it has been, and then ask how much warming would be realized around the time when the concentration has doubled the preindustrial value. On this shorter time scale, it’s likely the planet will warm between 1° and 2.5°C (2°-4.5°F).

The difference between transient and equilibrium sensitivity comes from the fact that some parts of the Earth system—mountain glaciers, sea ice, precipitation—react within years or a few decades to a warming or cooling nudge. Others—including ice sheets, permafrost, and especially the deep ocean—respond sluggishly, sometimes taking centuries to overcome the inertia of their previous state.[climate.gov]
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#47713 Jun 11, 2014
Recent estimates of the increase in global average temperature since the end of the last ice age are 4 to 5 °C (7 to 9 °F). That change occurred over a period of about 7,000 years, starting 18,000 years ago. CO2 has risen by 40% in just the past 200 years, contributing to human alteration of the planet’s energy budget that has so far warmed Earth by about 0.8 °C (1.4 °F). If the rise in CO2 continues unchecked, warming of the same magnitude as the increase out of the ice age can be expected by the end of this century or soon after. This speed of warming is more than ten times that at the end of an ice age, the fastest known natural sustained change on a global scale.

Read more: http://www.oakridger.com/article/20140609/BLO...

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#47716 Jun 11, 2014
Lord Hater wrote:
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Please explain (about as intelligent as the fire two) be specific.
Perhaps this will help you understand the causes of the freeze and thawing of the Earth. As you will see, it is tied to many factors, one of which is CO2! Since man is increasing the CO2 concentration in the atmosphere, it is not a giant step to understand that he may indeed be changing the climate.
http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/1998/09.1...
Mothra

Tempe, AZ

#47717 Jun 11, 2014
Fair Game wrote:
<quoted text>
Depends whether they accurately report the peer reviewed science or misrepresent it.
Depends whether you can defend the arguments made in the blog.
"Depends"?

Ahh... gotta love warmists and their decisive language. Unless, of course, you disagree, then they're absolute.

Run along... snipe troll.
Mothra

Tempe, AZ

#47718 Jun 11, 2014
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>Did it occur to you that sincere experts are expressing their concerns based on their knowledge to the public?
Did it occur to you that they are being listened to with gratitude and actions are taken in response so that "the sky won't fall?"
Did it occur to you that some countries like Italy expect their scientists to warn them of even natural disasters? Come on, this is a man-made disaster in progress!
Did it occur to you yet that every post you make puff out more CO2 into the atmosphere, which you claim is already at "crisis" levels?

Did it occur to you that this makes you a hypocrite and a lousy representative (and claimed adherent) to the "science" you promote?

Did it occur to you that I'm not ever going to let you forget you're a hypocrite?

LOL

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