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Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt...

There are 64003 comments on the Newsday story from Dec 14, 2008, titled Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt.... In it, Newsday reports that:

When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, global warming was a slow-moving environmental problem that was easy to ignore.

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Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#47168 May 24, 2014
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>really, son??
lol
Yes, troll, really, and not lol.

The fact that the NY tunnels flooded for the first time in 100 years has something to do with 100 years of sea level rise.

And this sort of event is forcast to become a 1in 10 year event and not a 1 in 100 so trolls like you won't be lolling forever.

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#47169 May 24, 2014
NYC:today’s 100-Year flood Could occur every 10 Years under the higher-emissions scenario.

The light blue area in these maps depicts today’s 100-year flood zone for New York City (i.e., the area of the city that is expected to be flooded once every 100 years). With additional sea-level rise by 2100 under the higher-emissions scenario, this approximate area is projected to have a 10 percent chance of flooding in any given year; under the lower-emissions scenario, a 5 percent chance. As the close-up shows, critical transportation infra-structure located in the Battery could be flooded far more frequently unless protected. The 100-year flood at the end of the century (not mapped here) is projected to inundate a far larger area of New York City, especially under the higher-emissions scenario.

http://www.climatechoices.org/assets/document...

“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#47170 May 24, 2014
Fair Game wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, troll, really, and not lol.
The fact that the NY tunnels flooded for the first time in 100 years has something to do with 100 years of sea level rise.
And this sort of event is forcast to become a 1in 10 year event and not a 1 in 100 so trolls like you won't be lolling forever.
bullchyt!!
the storm surge was a result of:
1. full moon high tides.
2. angle of approach.
3. slow movement of the storm
4. uniqueness ("combo pack") hurricane and nor'easter "met in Manhattan".

so which one of the these primary causes for the storm surge will become commonplace every 10 years, son? some or all? i want to document the "green troll's" claims. you have 8 years to get it right.

now run along and come up with some other claims trying to explain that the actual reasons had nothing to do with it...or they were the result of man made co2 emissions.

lol

“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#47171 May 24, 2014
Fair Game wrote:
NYC:today’s 100-Year flood Could occur every 10 Years under the higher-emissions scenario.
The light blue area in these maps depicts today’s 100-year flood zone for New York City (i.e., the area of the city that is expected to be flooded once every 100 years). With additional sea-level rise by 2100 under the higher-emissions scenario, this approximate area is projected to have a 10 percent chance of flooding in any given year; under the lower-emissions scenario, a 5 percent chance. As the close-up shows, critical transportation infra-structure located in the Battery could be flooded far more frequently unless protected. The 100-year flood at the end of the century (not mapped here) is projected to inundate a far larger area of New York City, especially under the higher-emissions scenario.
http://www.climatechoices.org/assets/document...
what is the "higher emissions scenario"???
let's see what info is being fed into the models these days, shall we?

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#47172 May 24, 2014
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>what is the "higher emissions scenario"???
let's see what info is being fed into the models these days, shall we?
The one we're on now.

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#47173 May 24, 2014
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>bullchyt!!
the storm surge was a result of:
1. full moon high tides.
2. angle of approach.
3. slow movement of the storm
4. uniqueness ("combo pack") hurricane and nor'easter "met in Manhattan".
And sea level rise.
Recent studies have identified the Northeast U.S. as a “hotspot” of accelerated sea level rise. Over the past 30 years, sea levels in the region have risen four times faster than the global average, increasing the risk of storm surges and flooding. During a storm surge, a matter of inches can mean the difference between safety and extensive flooding. Hurricane Sandy’s storm surge was exacerbated by both the warming-driven sea-level rise and the timing of the lunar cycle. Sandy occurred during the astronomical high tide, which is 2 to 3 inches above a normal high tide. Global sea level has already increased by 4 inches since 1950, creating the equivalent of a fulltime astronomical high tide. In New York, a record storm surge 13 feet above mean low water level flooded parts of lower Manhattan and poured into subway tunnels.
http://www.c2es.org/science-impacts/extreme-w...

“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#47174 May 24, 2014
Fair Game wrote:
<quoted text>
The one we're on now.
how many metric tons are in the model?

“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#47175 May 24, 2014
Fair Game wrote:
<quoted text>
And sea level rise.
<quoted text>
http://www.c2es.org/science-impacts/extreme-w...
what percentage of sea level rise do you account for fossil fuel emissions as opposed to natural warming?

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#47177 May 24, 2014
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>what percentage of sea level rise do you account for fossil fuel emissions as opposed to natural warming?
Most of it.

There was a slight contribution from increased glacial melt after the end of the little ice age.

Sea level rise due to thermal expansion seems to be 87% human caused.

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/20...

Contributions from polar ice cap melt (which are increasing) seem to be human caused.

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#47178 May 24, 2014
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>how many metric tons are in the model?
Lots.

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#47179 May 24, 2014
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>what percentage of sea level rise do you account for fossil fuel emissions as opposed to natural warming?
Meanwhile, in the real world, NY is ignoring stupid science deniers and conspiracy theorists and making plans to deal with sea level rise due to AGW.
In a major settlement that could have far-reaching implications nationwide, New York's largest utility is now responsible for preparing for a future of extreme weather, including the impacts of climate change.

The state now expects all of the utilities it regulates to consider how sea level rise, extreme weather and other possible effects related to climate change will affect their operations and reliability as they make future construction plans and budgets. It's a model that experts say other states could use to address the ravages of climate change.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/25/new-...

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#47180 May 24, 2014
Mothra wrote:
<quoted text>
What a laughable benefit.
Obama makes no changes in 'his' energy consumption, but everyone else does.
You like being a peon?
It was a tongue in cheek comment aimed at your absurd comment on climate hypocrisy hinting the President should ride a push bike to events in order to set an example for the rest of us. Talk about grabbing at straws and with your crowd its always the short straw!
Hollywood might drive up to public events in a Prius while the Ferrari is at home in the garage. But the President doesn't get Volts or Prius as part of his fleet and last time i checked Air Force 1 doesn't hang glide.
Mothra

Tempe, AZ

#47181 May 24, 2014
OzRitz wrote:
<quoted text>
It was a tongue in cheek comment aimed at your absurd comment on climate hypocrisy hinting the President should ride a push bike to events in order to set an example for the rest of us. Talk about grabbing at straws and with your crowd its always the short straw!
Hollywood might drive up to public events in a Prius while the Ferrari is at home in the garage. But the President doesn't get Volts or Prius as part of his fleet and last time i checked Air Force 1 doesn't hang glide.
Please, don't use tongue in cheek examples. Your writing sucks so much on it's own that advanced techniques are clearly beyond your grasp.

Regardless, once again you just to huge assumptions that holding the President accountable to his own words somehow undermines his ability to perform official government functions. I never said that. I merely point out his words don't match his actions and that warmists offer no objections of such.

That is hypocrisy... and no amount of rhetoric attempting to undermine that changes facts.

btw, keep posting away. With each one you're admitting that there is no CO2 crisis.

LOL

I do love holding warmists to their own standards.

“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#47182 May 25, 2014
Fair Game wrote:
<quoted text>
Lots.
lol
compared to what?

very scientific response by the way!!

lol

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#47183 May 25, 2014
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>lol
compared to what?
very scientific response by the way!!
lol
Do you actually have a point to make about emission scenarios?

“Hillary, thirty years of lying”

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#47184 May 25, 2014
Fair Game wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, troll, really, and not lol.
The fact that the NY tunnels flooded for the first time in 100 years has something to do with 100 years of sea level rise.
And this sort of event is forcast to become a 1in 10 year event and not a 1 in 100 so trolls like you won't be lolling forever.
COULD-WOULD-SHOULD........is that a definite maybe.

“Hillary, thirty years of lying”

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#47185 May 25, 2014
Fair Game wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you actually have a point to make about emission scenarios?
Yes, you are passing too much gas.
litesong

Everett, WA

#47186 May 25, 2014
motheaten wrote:
Please, don't use tongue in cheek examples.
Ah......for the first time in yer life, yer goin' fer science that you can use in a peer-reviewed AGW science paper........ NOT! Ya got to get sigh-ants, chemistry, astronomy, physics, algebra & pre-calc in a well-earned high school diploma to get yerself on the way to U-knee-ver-city, so you can earn science & mathematics degrees to be able to do peer-review.

But with tongue in cheek coal & energy propaganda poop, u can continue on toxic topix AGW forums spread-DING coal & energy propaganda poop, & toxic topix AGW denier lies.
litesong

Everett, WA

#47187 May 25, 2014
Fair Game wrote:
Lots.
//////////
"ratdownthemiddledownwron ggully" gushed:
very scientific response by the way!!
//////////
litesong wrote:
The only level of science that "ratdownthemiddledownwron ggully" understands.

“EnvironMENTAList ”

Since: Feb 07

Near Detroit

#47188 May 25, 2014
Remaining “believers” and former believers differ only in agreeing if science’s 32 years of being “95%” certain is actual certainty even though the IPCC has never said; “proven” or “will be” a crisis or anything beyond; “could be”. Only science can have certainty, not a mob of you determined “believers”.

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