Once slow-moving threat, global warmi...

Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt...

There are 53891 comments on the Newsday story from Dec 14, 2008, titled Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt.... In it, Newsday reports that:

When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, global warming was a slow-moving environmental problem that was easy to ignore.

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SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#46816 May 14, 2014
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>post #46768.
can't wait to see you duck and dodge this one, little dog pecker gnat.
or.....do you freely admit that there's never been an extinction due to man made co2?? you just contend that there might be, right, fudgenut?
Listen, I don't make up science. I posted from the RS paper.

Go study what anthropogenic climate change is. It's covers man-made CO2 from fossil fuels combustion.

You science deniers demand cessation of science so that humanity will stay ignorant about their own impact on our planet's climate and related consequences..
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#46817 May 14, 2014
inbred Genius wrote:
<quoted text>
dinosaurs were put on earth, by God, to become fossil fuel in the future, to power our vehicles....just like chickens were put here to provide eggs, meat and feathers. Cows were put on earth to provide milk, meat, leather, same with pigs. the women you refer to are muslims, and I think God might agree that they were a mistake, like tobacco. you must be a liberal, liberals have weird ideas.
Women were a mistake? Then why do we like fucking them so much?

And pot was put here to smoke and make prayer rugs with.

Why did Noah have to take all those nasty viruses, bacteria, and fungi on the Ark? Why didn't he leave them to drown? Why couldn't he have saved us some dinosaurs?

Since: Oct 13

Location hidden

#46818 May 14, 2014
gcaveman1 wrote:
So you have these generals and admirals coming out today (not the first time the military has spoken up) saying climate change is a threat to the US.
What say ye now, stupid idiotic lying deniers?
Get with the program. It's no longer called climate change. The new adjective is disruption,climate disruption. No one is claiming that climate disruption is not happening just mans involvement
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#46819 May 14, 2014
gcaveman1 wrote:
So you have these generals and admirals coming out today (not the first time the military has spoken up) saying climate change is a threat to the US.
What say ye now, stupid idiotic lying deniers?
Hey there. They ignore the truth.

Latest: An analysis of historical storm data reveals that the average latitude at which tropical cyclones attain their maximum intensity has undergone a pronounced shift towards the poles over the past three decades.

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#46820 May 14, 2014
gcaveman1 wrote:
So you have these generals and admirals coming out today (not the first time the military has spoken up) saying climate change is a threat to the US.
What say ye now, stupid idiotic lying deniers?
This is going to be really difficult for them, they had their heart set on Al Queda as the global villain. Now the "call to arms" will be to walk to the store to get the milk. That's a whole lot harder than sending someone else's son or daughter to a foreign land to get their a$$ shot off.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/weather/four-star...
Mothra

Phoenix, AZ

#46821 May 14, 2014
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
<quoted text>
More whackin' to do,
NOTHING you've posted has addressed the hypocrisy of warmists that talk big about a CRISIS but do NOTHING but talk about it.

I'll keep reminding you of this as long it takes for you to understand.

Whack yourself all you like, but please don't tell us about it.
No Warming

Waverly, OH

#46822 May 14, 2014
No Warming wrote:
<quoted text>
How much has earth warmed over the last 16 years ? Stand or sit any way you like.
Since none of the warmers will answer I will, data from NOAA has the global temp in 1997 at 14.42 deg.C. The average of the 16 years since is 14.47. Even James Hansen would acknowledge 5 one-hundredths of 1 degree over 16 years is insignificant. The anomalies are from a base of 13.9C for those who don't even bother to look at the actual temp record.

1997 0.52°C 4
1998 0.63°C 15
1999 0.46°C 2
2000 0.43°C 1
2001 0.55°C 6
2002 0.61°C 12
2003 0.62°C 14
2004 0.57°C 7
2005 0.65°C 17
2006 0.59°C 11
2007 0.59°C 11
2008 0.51°C 3
2009 0.59°C 11
2010 0.65°C 17
2011 0.53°C 5
2012 0.57°C 7
2013 0.62°C 14
Mothra

Phoenix, AZ

#46823 May 14, 2014
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>do you ever stop and realize how hopelessly stupid your posts are?
an eight year old could do better than you.
find mann's nobel yet, liar?
Of course not... to admit error of any sort is impossible for warmists.

Notice how none can hold any politician, celebrity, spokesmen, "scientist" or other warmist accountable for that dreaded CO2 they keep pumping into the atmosphere.

Warmists have a huge credibility problem and even though they're aware of it, the won't address it. Instead, they'll go hunt up some more "experts" to explain why no one takes them seriously.

And then they'll circle the wagons and start the same "consensus" and "settled science" bilge all over again.
Mothra

Phoenix, AZ

#46824 May 14, 2014
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>
Climate change is now recognized as a major threat to global biodiversity, and one that is already causing widespread local extinctions...
... by warmists who hold no one in their own ranks accountable.

Thus no one takes them seriously.

Hypocrite.

C'mon... defend yourself.
Mothra

Phoenix, AZ

#46825 May 14, 2014
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>How does climate change cause extinction?
Your science denying comrades like 'bg' repeat this theme regularly. The paper with that title was published by the Royal Society, the oldest scientific society in the world.
You call it "crap" and LOL.
Who cares what a global warming hypocrite says?

C'mon... defend yourself.

You can't.

LOL
Mothra

Phoenix, AZ

#46826 May 14, 2014
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
<quoted text>
God gave some men a brain. Some He didn't. We know where you stand.
Apparently your brain is only used to keep your skull from caving in.

“I Feel”

Since: Feb 09

Blest4it!

#46827 May 14, 2014
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>Listen, I don't make up science.
your leaders do and then you parrot what they tell you.

“I Feel”

Since: Feb 09

Blest4it!

#46828 May 14, 2014
OzRitz wrote:
<quoted text>
This is going to be really difficult for them, they had their heart set on Al Queda as the global villain. Now the "call to arms" will be to walk to the store to get the milk. That's a whole lot harder than sending someone else's son or daughter to a foreign land to get their a$$ shot off.
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/weather/four-star...
what are your concerns about the economy??
gretchen

Lockport, KY

#46829 May 14, 2014
we have bigger problems besides this. Why sink money into the cause will do no good if other countries do not comply.
We are spending too much now
I do nt want to be mowing grass in a burka
we are falling into alqeadas stratgey see below

Provoke the United States and the West into invading a Muslim country by staging a massive attack or string of attacks on U.S. soil that results in massive civilian casualties.
Incite local resistance to occupying forces.
Expand the conflict to neighboring countries, and engage the U.S. and its allies in a long war of attrition.
Convert al-Qaeda into an ideology and set of operating principles that can be loosely franchised in other countries without requiring direct command and control, and via these franchises incite attacks against the U.S. and countries allied with the U.S. until they withdraw from the conflict, as happened with the 2004 Madrid train bombings, but which did not have the same effect with the July 7, 2005 London bombings.
The U.S. economy will finally collapse by the year 2020 under the strain of multiple engagements in numerous places, making the worldwide economic system which is dependent on the U.S. also collapse leading to global political instability, which in turn leads to a global jihad led by al-Qaeda and a Wahhabi Caliphate will then be installed across the world following the collapse of the U.S. and the rest of the Western world countries.
Atwan also noted, regarding the collapse of the U.S., "If this sounds far-fetched, it is sobering to consider that this virtually describes the downfall of the Soviet Union."[73]
No Warming

Waverly, OH

#46830 May 14, 2014
Many things contributed to the failure of the USSR Gretchen, GHW Bush convincing the Saudis to flood the market with oil in the 80's and drive down the price put Russia in an economic bind is one example.

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#46831 May 14, 2014
Mothra wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course not... to admit error of any sort is impossible for warmists.
Notice how none can hold any politician, celebrity, spokesmen, "scientist" or other warmist accountable for that dreaded CO2 they keep pumping into the atmosphere.
Warmists have a huge credibility problem and even though they're aware of it, the won't address it. Instead, they'll go hunt up some more "experts" to explain why no one takes them seriously.
And then they'll circle the wagons and start the same "consensus" and "settled science" bilge all over again.
You are firing blanks again, read post to blondie. It applies to you as well.

Now we have Science, the Military, the Government & every environmental organisation around the globe singing the same song. But what are we left with, a bunch of rw tea baggers who insist they have it right and the rest of the world is wrong. So who is drinking the cool aid now.

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#46832 May 15, 2014
‘Witch-hunt’ forces out climate scientist

Ben Webster Environment Editor
Published at 12:01AM, May 15 2014
A leading climate scientist has resigned from the advisory board of a think-tank after being subjected to what he described as “McCarthy”-style pressure from fellow academics.
Professor Lennart Bengtsson, a research fellow at the University of Reading, said the pressure was so intense that he would be unable to continue working and feared for his health and safety unless he stepped down from the Global Warming Policy Foundation’s academic advisory council....
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/environment/art...

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#46834 May 15, 2014
More good news for you flat earther's:

“The rate at which tropical cyclones are moving toward the poles is consistent with the observed rates of tropical expansion,” Kossin said.“The expansion of the tropics appears to be influencing the environmental factors that control tropical cyclone formation and intensification, which is apparently driving their migration toward the poles.”

According to scientists, such expansion can partly be attributed to the increase of greenhouse gases caused by human activity, ozone depletion in the stratosphere and increased pollution. However, researchers are yet to determine whether the poleward shift of a tropical cyclone's maximum intensity is also linked to human activity.

"Now that we see this clear trend, it is crucial that we understand what has caused it - so we can understand what is likely to occur in the years and decades to come," Gabriel Vecchi, a scientist at NOAA and the study’s coauthor, said in the statement.

http://www.ibtimes.com/tropical-cyclones-shif...

Since: Mar 09

Wichita, KS

#46835 May 15, 2014
OzRitz wrote:
<quoted text>
You are firing blanks again, read post to blondie. It applies to you as well.
Now we have Science, the Military, the Government & every environmental organisation around the globe singing the same song. But what are we left with, a bunch of rw tea baggers who insist they have it right and the rest of the world is wrong. So who is drinking the cool aid now.
But they have Michael Peroutka, Jim Quinn, Dennis Miller, Ben Ferguson, William Bennett, Andrew Wilkow, Lars Larson, Sean Hannity, G. Gordon Liddy, Laura Ingraham, Mike Church, Glenn Beck, Mark Levin, Michael Savage, Kim Peterson, Michael Reagan, Jason Lewis, Ken Hamblin, Herman Cain, and Caiden Cowger. Not forgetting Senator Inholfe, Koch Bros, and even Anthony Watts.....
LessHypeMoreFact

Toronto, Canada

#46836 May 15, 2014
Blonde coed wrote:
<quoted text>
So you want to use oil, coal and gas to build and transport windmills, solar panels and electric cars and batteries?
This is known as a red herring issue. I said nothing about any of those items. My point was that AGW is a problem and we need solutions.
Blonde coed wrote:
<quoted text>
That's dumb. I'm blond and even I know that.
I have no solid evidence that blonds are any stupider than any other woman. However, you are one data point..
Blonde coed wrote:
<quoted text>
What's your BEST solution?
There are many solutions. Each one has pro's and cons. Could you narrow the focus a bit. These kind of general whines are hard to discuss since they have little fact to support them.

For example, coal power. Do you agree that more energy for the same amount of CO2 emitted would be a good idea? Especially with most current coal plants past their 'design lifespan', only get about 30% thermal efficiency and are due for replacement anyway? IGCC or a double shift reaction?

What is your objection to safe nuclear power.(i.e. CANDU, pebble bed, traveling wave, or Molten Fluoride Salt Thorium reactors)

Can you prove that wind power generators are all build with fossil fuels? if so, how long do they have to run to pay back the 'investment' if you have class 5 wind conditions on the site?

What about new developments in solar power (using much less silicon ).

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