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“Amor patriae.”

Since: Feb 08

Eastern Oregon

#46204 Apr 24, 2014
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
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Your only argument is because the climate changed in the past, man cannot do anything to change it today. That is a null argument. It cannot be predicted with certainty what will happen in the future because there are so many variables( volcanoes, asteroids, nuclear war, collapse of society, galactic clouds, etc.). However, the theory of AGW predicts with 95% certainty that if the variables remain the same except for the introduction of increasing CO2 into the atmosphere, the planet will warm.
I am not sure of your reasoning that this is tantamount to creating the Earth. Explain.
"...the theory... that the variables remain the same..." Doesn't that strike you as just slightly illogical? Don't you think "95% certainty" would afford even 1% accuracy in your predictions? You can't proclaim this theory of yours as settled science then defer to the vagaries of climate for your egregiously inaccurate predictions. That is saying the formula is unassailable, but the answer keeps coming out wrong.

“Amor patriae.”

Since: Feb 08

Eastern Oregon

#46205 Apr 24, 2014
litesong wrote:
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The transplanted euro got itself a piece of the Native Tribal lands that were fairly stolen(& possibly killed for). Now the transplanted euro's got commands to keep anyone from squattin', even the Native Tribes. When you're called to Heaven, just tell God you ain't goin','cause you got eastern Or-EE-gone, already.
Like it or not,'survival of the fittest' is the single indisputable truth responsible for every organism on this planet.

We agree on this, at least, Easter Oregon is Heaven on Earth.

Since: Mar 09

Wichita, KS

#46206 Apr 24, 2014
mdbuilder wrote:
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"...the theory... that the variables remain the same..." Doesn't that strike you as just slightly illogical? Don't you think "95% certainty" would afford even 1% accuracy in your predictions? You can't proclaim this theory of yours as settled science then defer to the vagaries of climate for your egregiously inaccurate predictions. That is saying the formula is unassailable, but the answer keeps coming out wrong.
It is obvious that either you are ignorant of the scientific process or are simply being dishonest. Or perhaps you do not understand the relationship between weather and climate.

There is never certainty in science. All science can do is to make the best explanation with the evidence at hand. What you are saying is that since there is not 100% certainty in science, throw everything out. Where would we be if this was how science did business.

“Let's X Change!!”

Since: Feb 09

B4 HOPE Is Gone...

#46207 Apr 24, 2014
litesong wrote:
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Nobody wants to visit your down wrong gully & you're getting lonesome.
nobody wants to read your repetitive idiocy, son.
Why do you waste co2 needlessly and murder innocent little birds?

“Amor patriae.”

Since: Feb 08

Eastern Oregon

#46208 Apr 24, 2014
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
<quoted text>
It is obvious that either you are ignorant of the scientific process or are simply being dishonest. Or perhaps you do not understand the relationship between weather and climate.
There is never certainty in science. All science can do is to make the best explanation with the evidence at hand. What you are saying is that since there is not 100% certainty in science, throw everything out. Where would we be if this was how science did business.
LOL. There's that default cop-out again.

It appears there's enough certainty in your theory to demand radical lifestyle changes exacerbated by crippling taxes. All without demonstrable scientific PROOF!!!

Face it, the essence of your argument is, "better safe than sorry." I don't buy it.
litesong

Lynnwood, WA

#46209 Apr 24, 2014
litesong wrote:
The transplanted euro got itself a piece of the Native Tribal lands that were fairly stolen(& possibly killed for). Now the transplanted euro's got commands to keep anyone from squattin', even the Native Tribes. When you're called to Heaven, just tell God you ain't goin','cause you got eastern Or-EE-gone, already.
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mudbuilder bluffed:
'survival of the fittest'....... Easter Oregon is Heaven on Earth.
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litesong wrote:
mudbuilder incorporates science ideas(survival of the fittest) & religion(Easter) to justify euros & transplanted euros, in their genocide of 15,000 NATIVE TRIBES & cultural destruction of 15,000 more NATIVE TRIBES, world wide. As excellent as eastern Oregon is, it isn't Heaven on Earth, & euros & transplanted euros living there, make it less so. Dragging the Name of the Easter Jesus Christ into the your broken sleazy slimy steenking toxic topix AGW denier liar philosophy, neither demeans the Christ or justifies euro & transplanted euro genocide.

Since: Mar 09

Wichita, KS

#46210 Apr 24, 2014
mdbuilder wrote:
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LOL. There's that default cop-out again.
It appears there's enough certainty in your theory to demand radical lifestyle changes exacerbated by crippling taxes. All without demonstrable scientific PROOF!!!
Face it, the essence of your argument is, "better safe than sorry." I don't buy it.
It is not 100% certain that if you breathe asbestos dust that you will get lung cancer. The probability is much lower than the bar that you measure global warming. Do you disregard the science and blithely breathe asbestos dust? Or ignore the science that shows tobacco a health hazard? Or do you prescribe to the idea of, "better safe than sorry?"

I am sorry that you do not understand that there are no proofs in science.

Since the market has no viable mechanism to protect the environment, some other device must be employed. Perhaps cost basis would be better if power plants etc. exceeded prescribed levels if we could fix a value on the cost of global warming. Industry would have to pay for each unit of CO2 emitted much like ranchers pay a grazing fee on public land.
Blonde coed

Los Angeles, CA

#46211 Apr 24, 2014
Such beautiful weather through most of the US today! What's it look like in your area?

Nothing too extreme. Water levels look good. Ocean water is a bit chilly, but that's to be expected.

Feeling carefree! To bad it's a school day. Can't wait for Friday night!

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#46212 Apr 24, 2014
If global warming means more extreme weather then it means more extremely beautiful weather too. What's not to love about global warming?
dem

United States

#46213 Apr 24, 2014
Brian_G wrote:
If global warming means more extreme weather then it means more extremely beautiful weather too. What's not to love about global warming?
Spoken like a true toothless fkn idiot.
reach out

AOL

#46214 Apr 24, 2014
OzRitz wrote:
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Well Einstein thought up the theory of the Atomic bomb too, but it was just that until they dropped one. There are lots of examples throughout history, what caused the black plague why we need to treat drinking water etc etc. But you deniers single out climate as a worldwide conspiracy science has fabricated. WHY ?? If you question that why not other science like what causes Aids or cancer from smoking. Why did you feel the need to question this as opposed to everything else that science claims. Is the smoking ban in public places a liberal idea as well ? Science also tells you if you are exposed to loud noise for long enough you will suffer hearing loss, but a 20 something that can hear now might say it's BS. Only it's a bit late as a 55+ who can't hear the beep on his mobile when a message comes in. Climate claims are no different than any of those others, the most probable cause by more than a 95% margin is man. To argue otherwise is exactly the same as that 20 something rattling the windows in the neighbourhood driving by with his car audio at full volume believing his immune.
agree !
litesong

Lynnwood, WA

#46215 Apr 24, 2014
dem wrote:
Spoken like a true toothless fkn idiot.
Not sure if "lyin' brian" is toothless, but it has no science, chemistry, astronomy, physics, algebra or pre-calc in its poorly earned hi skule DEE-plooomaa. What "lyin' brian" DOES have is an immorality of 4 alleged threats & 3 proud threats, as well as errors of 1 million TIMES, 1000 TIMES, 3000 TIMES, 73 million TIMES & 2.5+ trillion TIMES, proving its idiocy.
The fact is

Minneapolis, MN

#46216 Apr 24, 2014

“Let's X Change!!”

Since: Feb 09

B4 HOPE Is Gone...

#46217 Apr 24, 2014
litesong wrote:
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Not sure if "lyin' brian" is toothless, but it has no science, chemistry, astronomy, physics, algebra or pre-calc in its poorly earned hi skule DEE-plooomaa. What "lyin' brian" DOES have is an immorality of 4 alleged threats & 3 proud threats, as well as errors of 1 million TIMES, 1000 TIMES, 3000 TIMES, 73 million TIMES & 2.5+ trillion TIMES, proving its idiocy.
you and dumdem are made for each other, litethong!! you both say the same old chyt over and over......just a little bit differently, but equally unoriginal.
Blonde coed

Los Angeles, CA

#46218 Apr 24, 2014
dem wrote:
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Spoken like a true toothless fkn idiot.
Awww. Don't be such a grumpy face. Turn that frown upside down!

“Amor patriae.”

Since: Feb 08

Eastern Oregon

#46219 Apr 24, 2014
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
<quoted text>
It is not 100% certain that if you breathe asbestos dust that you will get lung cancer. The probability is much lower than the bar that you measure global warming. Do you disregard the science and blithely breathe asbestos dust? Or ignore the science that shows tobacco a health hazard? Or do you prescribe to the idea of, "better safe than sorry?"
I am sorry that you do not understand that there are no proofs in science.
Since the market has no viable mechanism to protect the environment, some other device must be employed. Perhaps cost basis would be better if power plants etc. exceeded prescribed levels if we could fix a value on the cost of global warming. Industry would have to pay for each unit of CO2 emitted much like ranchers pay a grazing fee on public land.
How about this: Whenever a person gets ill and the cause of the illness can be traced, unequivocally, to a specific substance produced by a specific factory or power plant, hold that specific offender responsible, on a case by case bases? Like asbestos and tobacco.

“Amor patriae.”

Since: Feb 08

Eastern Oregon

#46220 Apr 24, 2014
dem wrote:
<quoted text>
Spoken like a true toothless fkn idiot.
Sonofabitch. Who unlocked the cage?
litesong

Lynnwood, WA

#46221 Apr 24, 2014
dem wrote:
Spoken like a true toothless fkn idiot.
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mudbuilder bluffed:
Who unlocked the cage?
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litesong wrote:
Ah.....you have an idea that sleazy slimy toxic topix AGW denier liars are toothless & defenseless against educated AGW advocates.

Since: Mar 09

Wichita, KS

#46222 Apr 24, 2014
mdbuilder wrote:
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How about this: Whenever a person gets ill and the cause of the illness can be traced, unequivocally, to a specific substance produced by a specific factory or power plant, hold that specific offender responsible, on a case by case bases? Like asbestos and tobacco.
What??? If someone gets lung cancer can it be traced to a specific source of asbestos, tobacco, of benzene or....? Really? You do not have a clue.

“Let's X Change!!”

Since: Feb 09

B4 HOPE Is Gone...

#46223 Apr 24, 2014
litesong wrote:
against educated AGW advocates.
guess that leaves you out of the equation.

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