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There are 63550 comments on the Newsday story from Dec 14, 2008, titled Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt.... In it, Newsday reports that:

When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, global warming was a slow-moving environmental problem that was easy to ignore.

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Mothra

Tempe, AZ

#46061 Apr 20, 2014
OzRitz wrote:
<quoted text>
Science is science no matter what form it comes in.
[blather omitted unread]
Really?

Then why did you just attempt to separate two different 'sciences'?

"Pehaps you could explain to us, how environmental science has credibilty and climate science doesn't.

Just admit your gross generality has failed once again, and quit trying to claim you said otherwise... an adult would

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#46062 Apr 20, 2014
OzRitz wrote:
<quoted text>
Science is science no matter what form it comes in. All science must rely on other sciences to prove a discovery or state a fact. It will rely on physics , proven theories of other discoveries to come up with new ones. As has happened all through history, what makes denier science like some mythical religious belief is the total dismissal of a proven stated fact. The mapping of the Human Genome Project was no different than climate science. It was a project all countries that could afford it were involved in and NO ONE owned the results. That single project allows all sorts of scientific endevour to follow in curing disease etc. Climate science is no different it is a world wide project for the good of mankind. Yet in your blind ignorance you try and tell us that it is a world wide conspiracy, fake science etc etc etc. Who is being manipulated here, if Pfizer thought the genome project was a threat to it's profits then you can bet your life it would have used that same ignorance to mount a campaign to stop it. There were no web sites set up by the Koch bros, no fake research institutes to discredit their findings and you know why ???? Because everyone would benefit from the results. But climate science poses a threat or perceived threat to all fossil fuel industry so like the gun lobby they ban together, rope in the ignorant like your lot and go to town. That is where the real money trail lies!
Good post but I would use the phrase "sustained theories" or "accepted theories" instead of "proven theories". However, those without scientific discipline have no tools to argue that this science or that science is only a conspiracy. They must get that information from vested interests or other tag along prejudices. How this elevated to a partisan issue portraits how one political party has accepted an attempt by those who believe they may suffer economic loss rather than solid scientific findings. Apparently they are so enamored with market forces that they put it above their responsibility to their constituents. The media is also lax in its reporting when they feed into this bias. They should be held to task for their partisan pandering.

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#46063 Apr 20, 2014
Like I said, deniers can only argue in circular arguments, never proving any points defying all logic and fact. They belong in the blue sky mining brigade. Defending selective pollution because they think clean costs them more when the cost of ignorance is 100 fold.
Drifting to sleep

Fairfield, CA

#46064 Apr 20, 2014
OzRitz wrote:
Like I said, deniers can only argue in circular arguments, never proving any points defying all logic and fact. They belong in the blue sky mining brigade. Defending selective pollution because they think clean costs them more when the cost of ignorance is 100 fold.
Why don't you go clean up your filthy streets?. You could go green on that if you would like.

“Amor patriae.”

Since: Feb 08

Eastern Oregon

#46065 Apr 20, 2014
Shocked scientists told reporters that the Earth is cooling at a dramatic and alarming rate.

Global warming has been the subject of so many discussions in recent years, but scientists now say that the world is not warming, but instead is becoming cooler – by the day!

According to scientists from the Pulkovo Observatory in St.Petersburg, solar activity is decreasing significantly, so the average yearly temperature will decline at a rapid rate.

Scientists from Britain and the US are forecasting a 5-10 degree (Fahrenheit) drop in global temperatures – over the next five years!

“This is catastrophic for the planet,” said Dr. John Malley, the head of the U.N. Panel on Global Cooling.“The United Nations is issuing an alert to all the countries on the planet. The planet could very well freeze over entirely by 2100.”

Scientists predict that most major cities that are on the coast, will be frozen over in the next thirty years.“There’s nothing we can do to stop it. The sun is just not as powerful as it used to be,” said Dr. Malley.

Experts say that the Arctic ice is getting thicker by the day.“Even places like Jamaica will have an average daily temperature of only 40 degrees (Fahrenheit) within five years.”

Solar activity follows different cycles, including an 11-year cycle, a 90-year cycle and a 200-year cycle. Scientist predict that this “cold spell” will last 200-250 years and by that time, all life on earth will have been extinguished.

“We are in for a cooling period that lasts 200-250 years. The period of low solar activity won’t end until about 2275.”
litesong

Everett, WA

#46066 Apr 20, 2014
"mddestructor" muffed:
Scientist predict that this “cold spell” will last 200-250 years and by that time, all life on earth will have been extinguished.
//////////
litesong wrote:
Since sleazy slimy toxic topix AGW denier liars have said we've been in an ice age for 20 years already, we only have to wait 180-230 years before we die!
Blonde coed

Fullerton, CA

#46067 Apr 20, 2014
mdbuilder wrote:
Shocked scientists told reporters that the Earth is cooling at a dramatic and alarming rate.
Global warming has been the subject of so many discussions in recent years, but scientists now say that the world is not warming, but instead is becoming cooler – by the day!
According to scientists from the Pulkovo Observatory in St.Petersburg, solar activity is decreasing significantly, so the average yearly temperature will decline at a rapid rate.
Scientists from Britain and the US are forecasting a 5-10 degree (Fahrenheit) drop in global temperatures – over the next five years!
“This is catastrophic for the planet,” said Dr. John Malley, the head of the U.N. Panel on Global Cooling.“The United Nations is issuing an alert to all the countries on the planet. The planet could very well freeze over entirely by 2100.”
Scientists predict that most major cities that are on the coast, will be frozen over in the next thirty years.“There’s nothing we can do to stop it. The sun is just not as powerful as it used to be,” said Dr. Malley.
Experts say that the Arctic ice is getting thicker by the day.“Even places like Jamaica will have an average daily temperature of only 40 degrees (Fahrenheit) within five years.”
Solar activity follows different cycles, including an 11-year cycle, a 90-year cycle and a 200-year cycle. Scientist predict that this “cold spell” will last 200-250 years and by that time, all life on earth will have been extinguished.
“We are in for a cooling period that lasts 200-250 years. The period of low solar activity won’t end until about 2275.”
Oh geez. Now I have to sell my carbon credits and start buying carbon debits. I hope everything turns out ok.

It was an absolutely beautiful weather day throughout much of the world. Ocean level is at very agreeable levels. Surfers love it. Maybe things aren't so bad?

“Amor patriae.”

Since: Feb 08

Eastern Oregon

#46068 Apr 20, 2014
Blonde coed wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh geez. Now I have to sell my carbon credits and start buying carbon debits. I hope everything turns out ok.
It was an absolutely beautiful weather day throughout much of the world. Ocean level is at very agreeable levels. Surfers love it. Maybe things aren't so bad?
Bingo! It's all about attitude. Without some sort of perpetual looming disaster, how would we know the good guys from the bad? Imagine a world where the environment is fine. Where we're not made to feel guilty or told "the children" will freeze to their beds or burst into flames if we don't pay higher taxes. Follow the money.
litesong

Everett, WA

#46069 Apr 20, 2014
Blonde coed wrote:
It was an absolutely beautiful weather day throughout much of the world.
Weather winding up, tho. Here's the pitch!!!!!!!!
http://www.weather.com/tv/tvshows/americas-mo...

“Amor patriae.”

Since: Feb 08

Eastern Oregon

#46070 Apr 20, 2014
litesong wrote:
"mddestructor" muffed:
Scientist predict that this “cold spell” will last 200-250 years and by that time, all life on earth will have been extinguished.
//////////
litesong wrote:
Since sleazy slimy toxic topix AGW denier liars have said we've been in an ice age for 20 years already, we only have to wait 180-230 years before we die!
It's cool. I can predict, with absolute certainty, every human alive today will be dead within a hundred years or so.

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#46071 Apr 20, 2014
mdbuilder wrote:
Shocked scientists told reporters that the Earth is cooling at a dramatic and alarming rate.
Global warming has been the subject of so many discussions in recent years, but scientists now say that the world is not warming, but instead is becoming cooler – by the day!
According to scientists from the Pulkovo Observatory in St.Petersburg, solar activity is decreasing significantly, so the average yearly temperature will decline at a rapid rate.
Scientists from Britain and the US are forecasting a 5-10 degree (Fahrenheit) drop in global temperatures – over the next five years!
“This is catastrophic for the planet,” said Dr. John Malley, the head of the U.N. Panel on Global Cooling.“The United Nations is issuing an alert to all the countries on the planet. The planet could very well freeze over entirely by 2100.”
Scientists predict that most major cities that are on the coast, will be frozen over in the next thirty years.“There’s nothing we can do to stop it. The sun is just not as powerful as it used to be,” said Dr. Malley.
Experts say that the Arctic ice is getting thicker by the day.“Even places like Jamaica will have an average daily temperature of only 40 degrees (Fahrenheit) within five years.”
Solar activity follows different cycles, including an 11-year cycle, a 90-year cycle and a 200-year cycle. Scientist predict that this “cold spell” will last 200-250 years and by that time, all life on earth will have been extinguished.
“We are in for a cooling period that lasts 200-250 years. The period of low solar activity won’t end until about 2275.”
http://weeklyworldnews.com/headlines/56053/gl...

"The Weekly World News was a largely fictional news tabloid published in the United States from 1979 to 2007, renowned for its outlandish cover stories often based on supernatural or paranormal themes and an approach to news that verged on the satirical.

The WWN traditionally claimed that it always printed the truth (typical slogan: "Nothing but the truth: The Weekly World News!"). Many stories, however, appeared to have comedic intent."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weekly_World_New...

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#46072 Apr 20, 2014
mdbuilder wrote:
Shocked scientists told reporters that the Earth is cooling at a dramatic and alarming rate.
Global warming has been the subject of so many discussions in recent years, but scientists now say that the world is not warming, but instead is becoming cooler – by the day!
According to scientists from the Pulkovo Observatory in St.Petersburg, solar activity is decreasing significantly, so the average yearly temperature will decline at a rapid rate.
Scientists from Britain and the US are forecasting a 5-10 degree (Fahrenheit) drop in global temperatures – over the next five years!
“This is catastrophic for the planet,” said Dr. John Malley, the head of the U.N. Panel on Global Cooling.“The United Nations is issuing an alert to all the countries on the planet. The planet could very well freeze over entirely by 2100.”
Scientists predict that most major cities that are on the coast, will be frozen over in the next thirty years.“There’s nothing we can do to stop it. The sun is just not as powerful as it used to be,” said Dr. Malley.
Experts say that the Arctic ice is getting thicker by the day.“Even places like Jamaica will have an average daily temperature of only 40 degrees (Fahrenheit) within five years.”
Solar activity follows different cycles, including an 11-year cycle, a 90-year cycle and a 200-year cycle. Scientist predict that this “cold spell” will last 200-250 years and by that time, all life on earth will have been extinguished.
“We are in for a cooling period that lasts 200-250 years. The period of low solar activity won’t end until about 2275.”
The story seems to originate with Voice of Russia.

http://voiceofrussia.com/2013_04_22/Cooling-i...

I remember when Russian propaganda was derided in the US; now it seems to be welcomed by the US right.

Putin wants the Arctic gas, so the the Russian media, which he controls, says AGW is not a threat.

Just remember the Voice of Russia spent decades telling you democracy was a fraud and realise it is a propaganda tool.
litesong

Everett, WA

#46073 Apr 20, 2014
Fair Game wrote:
"The Weekly World News!....... Many stories...... appeared to have comedic intent."
.......but not to sleazy slimy toxic topix AGW denier liars.

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#46074 Apr 20, 2014
mdbuilder wrote:
Shocked scientists told reporters that the Earth is cooling at a dramatic and alarming rate.
Global warming has been the subject of so many discussions in recent years, but scientists now say that the world is not warming, but instead is becoming cooler – by the day!
According to scientists from the Pulkovo Observatory in St.Petersburg, solar activity is decreasing significantly, so the average yearly temperature will decline at a rapid rate.
Scientists from Britain and the US are forecasting a 5-10 degree (Fahrenheit) drop in global temperatures – over the next five years!
“This is catastrophic for the planet,” said Dr. John Malley, the head of the U.N. Panel on Global Cooling.“The United Nations is issuing an alert to all the countries on the planet. The planet could very well freeze over entirely by 2100.”
Scientists predict that most major cities that are on the coast, will be frozen over in the next thirty years.“There’s nothing we can do to stop it. The sun is just not as powerful as it used to be,” said Dr. Malley.
Experts say that the Arctic ice is getting thicker by the day.“Even places like Jamaica will have an average daily temperature of only 40 degrees (Fahrenheit) within five years.”
Solar activity follows different cycles, including an 11-year cycle, a 90-year cycle and a 200-year cycle. Scientist predict that this “cold spell” will last 200-250 years and by that time, all life on earth will have been extinguished.
“We are in for a cooling period that lasts 200-250 years. The period of low solar activity won’t end until about 2275.”
The question is, did you realise this was Russian propaganda reported by a trash tabloid, or were you stupid enough to think it was an accurate description of real science?

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#46075 Apr 20, 2014
litesong wrote:
<quoted text>
.......but not to sleazy slimy toxic topix AGW denier liars.
You couldn't make it up.

“Amor patriae.”

Since: Feb 08

Eastern Oregon

#46076 Apr 20, 2014
Fair Game wrote:
<quoted text>
The story seems to originate with Voice of Russia.
http://voiceofrussia.com/2013_04_22/Cooling-i...
I remember when Russian propaganda was derided in the US; now it seems to be welcomed by the US right.
Putin wants the Arctic gas, so the the Russian media, which he controls, says AGW is not a threat.
Just remember the Voice of Russia spent decades telling you democracy was a fraud and realise it is a propaganda tool.
Russians, huh. Here, these ought to keep you busy for a while.

http://www.climatedepot.com/2013/06/15/forget...

Now don't skip over these, you might find some evidence of a conspiracy.
DDDD-25

Corona, CA

#46077 Apr 21, 2014
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
<quoted text>
I see that you are ignorant of how the scientific process works. Sounds like you are a radical Republican being led by the nose to benefit the fat cats. The Earth is warming. CO2 is a GHG. Burning fossil fuels increases the CO2 in the atmosphere. Try to understand that. BTW, I am a life long Republican but cannot be part of the radicalism that the Party promotes today. They are just wrong.
I see that you are ignorant of how the political system works as well as how the scientific process REALLY works. I know how peer review is supposed to work, but it no longer works because they are now ALL on the same payroll. Stray off the reservation and you are cut off. That's how it works now. I repeat: Anybody who believes that a politico believes more in doing the right thing for all parties concerned, than he does in lying unto his own death for the specific purpose of perpetual re-election, is a moron. A very, very special;, high power moron. One nearly as dense as the matter at the center of a black hole. A person so stupid, he thinks higher taxes are good thing. You really can't get more ignorant than that now, Can you? You should not have children.
DDDD-25

Corona, CA

#46078 Apr 21, 2014
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
<quoted text>
Good post but I would use the phrase "sustained theories" or "accepted theories" instead of "proven theories". However, those without scientific discipline have no tools to argue that this science or that science is only a conspiracy. They must get that information from vested interests or other tag along prejudices. How this elevated to a partisan issue portraits how one political party has accepted an attempt by those who believe they may suffer economic loss rather than solid scientific findings. Apparently they are so enamored with market forces that they put it above their responsibility to their constituents. The media is also lax in its reporting when they feed into this bias. They should be held to task for their partisan pandering.
Your whining about the term "proven" only highlights your failure to prove ANYTHING , and.... Accentuates that you are a failed , wanna be , "expert, You have no interest in facts, as they are derived from PROVEN axioms.. Deception be thy middle name.
DDDD-25

Corona, CA

#46079 Apr 21, 2014
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
<quoted text>
Another radical. Global warming is happening. The Earth is warming. CO2 is a GHG. Burning fossil fuels increases the CO2 in the atmosphere. What don't you understand?
Do you think this is a world wide conspiracy involving ALL the great scientific academies? Where do you get your information?
It is YOU that is Radical. Stupid, too.

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#46081 Apr 21, 2014
mdbuilder wrote:
<quoted text>
Russians, huh. Here, these ought to keep you busy for a while.
http://www.climatedepot.com/2013/06/15/forget...
Now don't skip over these, you might find some evidence of a conspiracy.
Climate Depot cites Voice of Russia.

Revealing.

Both sites are full of lies only believed by the party faithful.

Authoritarians are the same whether teabaggers or totalitarians.

On AGW they are even sharing the same propaganda.

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