Once slow-moving threat, global warmi...

Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt...

There are 64852 comments on the Newsday story from Dec 14, 2008, titled Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt.... In it, Newsday reports that:

When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, global warming was a slow-moving environmental problem that was easy to ignore.

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denier

Zion, IL

#44539 Mar 19, 2014
Cuckoo, Cuckool-aid drinkers!

“Sharia, NOT!”

Since: Jul 10

Suffolk, VA

#44540 Mar 19, 2014
OzRitz wrote:
<quoted text>
It's pretty obvious you listen to Rush too much. "Free" as you define it is what ? Freedom of speech, Freedom of assembly, Freedom to travel, Freedom to migrate. That's what most normal people expect in a democratic system of government. What you expect is not deliverable, because your needs are sooooo offbeat to the rest of the population they are ignored. That is why you elect a government, to deal with things YOU as an individual can't deal with. A government is there to look after the majority of the population. It looks after your security, trade , infrastructure, education, health and delivers services you cannot provide. If you want to live in a cave that is your choice, but you still have to pay for the privilege of being able to do it. That is pay taxes on your income for the government to provide all of the above. The fact that you just want to be selective on what the government provides again is irrelevant. If you refuse an education, you can't refuse to pay for that service in your taxes. That's just one example of many but probably the most relevant to you.
No I don't listen to Rush. But thanks for proving my point! You are clueless as to the function of government. The government is not there to provide anything for you apart from: "provide for the common Defense and general Welfare of the United States", "provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States", "provide and maintain a Navy", "provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions", "provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia", that's it! It's not a bottomless pit for your irresponsible azz to glean whatever you want from it.
These provisions in fact tell you what the function of government is: Protects the unalienable rights of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness of the American Citizens.
But, be it far from you to have read the Constitution let alone understand what the documents purpose is. The Constitution limits what the government can do it does not limit what We the People can do.
Oh, and before you get all high and mighty about the "general Welfare" part you need to know what the founders meant when they scribed that word as defined at the time: WELFARE, n.[well and fare, a good faring; G.]
1. Exemption from misfortune, sickness, calamity or evil; the enjoyment of health and the common blessings of life; prosperity; happiness; applied to persons.
2. Exemption from any unusual evil or calamity; the enjoyment of peace and prosperity, or the ordinary blessings of society and civil government; applied to states.
Did you notice it did not say to create a dependency on others for these things?
Mothra

Phoenix, AZ

#44541 Mar 19, 2014
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
<quoted text>
The truth hurts, doesn't it?
"Truth"?

Some yahoo picks through surveys and concocts a result. Oh wait... you're a warmist.

That's the status quo.

Gonna quote me some other "consensus" nonsense now?
Mothra

Phoenix, AZ

#44542 Mar 19, 2014
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
<quoted text>
So, what's your point? Count anything as science, I suppose. Even some of those 1000 physical papers do not take issue with AGW, only take issue with some minor facet. Give it up. The preponderance of evidence resides with the science of global warming. LOL, you deniers will place your hat on anything, anywhere. As usual, you are nothing but a waste of time.
"Just like the WGII and WGIII sections of the IPCC reports, peer-reviewed papers from social scientists and policy analysts are included in the list. These papers appear in the appropriate socio-economic sections (e.g. Socio-Economic) separate from the physical science sections on the list. Regardless, there are over 1000 physical science papers on the list."

So.. chuck those IPCC reports as well?

What a phony argument. I do love holding warmists to their own standards. With time their hypocrisy shines.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#44543 Mar 19, 2014
Mothra wrote:
<quoted text>
"Just like the WGII and WGIII sections of the IPCC reports, peer-reviewed papers from social scientists and policy analysts are included in the list. These papers appear in the appropriate socio-economic sections (e.g. Socio-Economic) separate from the physical science sections on the list. Regardless, there are over 1000 physical science papers on the list."
So.. chuck those IPCC reports as well?
What a phony argument. I do love holding warmists to their own standards. With time their hypocrisy shines.

Again, what's yer point? That is how science works. The skeptics work is inspected. If it holds muster, it is included. If not it is laid aside. The preponderance of evidence supports AGW. Sorry, but that is how it is. Quit whining or produce the facts.

It seems that the deniers dispute consensus as valuable support for global warming then turn around and attempt to use it for evidence that global warming is not scientific. LOL

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#44544 Mar 19, 2014
Socialism is for Sissies wrote:
<quoted text>No I don't listen to Rush. But thanks for proving my point! You are clueless as to the function of government. The government is not there to provide anything for you apart from: "provide for the common Defense and general Welfare of the United States", "provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States", "provide and maintain a Navy", "provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions", "provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia", that's it! It's not a bottomless pit for your irresponsible azz to glean whatever you want from it.
These provisions in fact tell you what the function of government is: Protects the unalienable rights of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness of the American Citizens.
But, be it far from you to have read the Constitution let alone understand what the documents purpose is. The Constitution limits what the government can do it does not limit what We the People can do.
Oh, and before you get all high and mighty about the "general Welfare" part you need to know what the founders meant when they scribed that word as defined at the time: WELFARE, n.[well and fare, a good faring; G.]
1. Exemption from misfortune, sickness, calamity or evil; the enjoyment of health and the common blessings of life; prosperity; happiness; applied to persons.
2. Exemption from any unusual evil or calamity; the enjoyment of peace and prosperity, or the ordinary blessings of society and civil government; applied to states.
Did you notice it did not say to create a dependency on others for these things?
Show us anything in the Constitution that expressly prohibits providing welfare to the needy. If so, why are we subsidizing major fossil fuel corporations?

“Sharia, NOT!”

Since: Jul 10

Suffolk, VA

#44545 Mar 19, 2014
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
<quoted text>
Show us anything in the Constitution that expressly prohibits providing welfare to the needy. If so, why are we subsidizing major fossil fuel corporations?
I just quoted it. You liberal artists are slow, eh?

And thanks for the libby talking point of misdirection of subsidies. But, if you want to go down that road you'd better be careful 'cause your boys are the lion's share of subsidies.

Affordable Care Act for one
litesong

Everett, WA

#44546 Mar 19, 2014
motheaten wrote:
New paper finds water vapor feedback is strongly negative
The "new paper" is nearly two years old & has attracted attention only from slimy steenking toxic AGW deniers. Of course, the slimy steenking toxic AGW deniers hide behind Richard S. Lindzen, a long time way-laid scientist, corrected often & continually for erroneous papers.

“Sharia, NOT!”

Since: Jul 10

Suffolk, VA

#44547 Mar 19, 2014
Oh-oh! EPA fraudster? On air Quality? Say it ain't so. He must be one of them Warm Earthers. Faking data to put bad regulations into play.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/03/19/au...

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#44550 Mar 19, 2014
Socialism is for Sissies wrote:
<quoted text>No I don't listen to Rush. But thanks for proving my point! You are clueless as to the function of government. The government is not there to provide anything for you apart from: "provide for the common Defense and general Welfare of the United States", "provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States", "provide and maintain a Navy", "provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions", "provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia", that's it! It's not a bottomless pit for your irresponsible azz to glean whatever you want from it..........
If you don't listen to Rush or Fox, WTF do you get the idea that welfare is responsible for all ills. Welfare constitutes only 10% of the US budget, Pensions 23%. Health 26%. Now if we dropped all of those that's almost 60% of the whole US budget. All those old people would just get sick and die, the pensioners would starve to death and the welfare moochers would have to rob 7 Eleven stores to survive. Why don't you explain to us, how this would make America a better place to live ? Given that the defense budget is as big as the pension, maybe your militia could help out in making some cuts there. Screaming that I don't get it about what a government is there for only applies to those who filter history and totally disregards any new challenges of what a government has to deal with in a modern world. As far as your concerned the laws drawn up in the time of the musket loader & fur trading is the only thing we should all live by, Totally ignoring all these new lil things like globalisation, climate change, terrorism, emerging super powers like China, political turmoil in the middle east & now in Europe, ageing populations & the huge burden that is on the budget, depletion of the Earth's resources along with a crowded planet, it is a endless list. So maybe it's time your lot moved up to the 21st Century instead of trying to recapture the past.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#44551 Mar 19, 2014
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>how old do you think the data is from the last IPCC report, faux genius?
Irrelevant comment.

IPCC strives in their reports to deal with peer-reviewed, time-tested material, not your "new" stuff.
Mothra

Phoenix, AZ

#44553 Mar 19, 2014
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
<quoted text>
Again, what's yer point? That is how science works. The skeptics work is inspected. If it holds muster, it is included. If not it is laid aside. The preponderance of evidence supports AGW. Sorry, but that is how it is. Quit whining or produce the facts.
It seems that the deniers dispute consensus as valuable support for global warming then turn around and attempt to use it for evidence that global warming is not scientific. LOL
Oy vey.... another "consensus" argument. Warmists love their authority figures.

Do some research... you'll find all kinds of "settled" science found in error.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/saturated-fats-wo...

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/372659/...

But not climate "science" ... it's settled and been that way for years. Pause? What pause? No matter... it's "settled"? Models don't match reality? No matter... it's settled. Hockey stick controversy? Meh... old news... it's settled. Missing heat? Once again... "settled" even before that argument was even made.

Google 'settled science'... all the results are about global warming. In what other discipline is science argued as "settled" like that of the warmists? And who says it is? Why the warmists do.

Nothing like a self-fulfilling prophecy, huh?

Problem is... prophecies aren't science.
Mothra

Phoenix, AZ

#44554 Mar 19, 2014
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
<quoted text>
Show us anything in the Constitution that expressly prohibits providing welfare to the needy. If so, why are we subsidizing major fossil fuel corporations?
<sigh>

Bozo the non-thinker strikes again. The leftist propaganda machine renamed legitimate business deductions taken by oil companies as "subsidies" and damnit! that's proof enough.

No rationale debate is possible with zealots.. but it's a lot of fun mocking them.
Mothra

Phoenix, AZ

#44555 Mar 19, 2014
litesong wrote:
Cuckoo, cuckoo.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#44556 Mar 19, 2014
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>actually, they don't.
Actually, you are wrong, again.

Go ahead and cite that Itallian lawyer for physics, BWAHAHAHA.. LOL.
Mothra

Phoenix, AZ

#44557 Mar 19, 2014
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>Actually, you are wrong, again.
Go ahead and cite that Itallian lawyer for physics, BWAHAHAHA.. LOL.
*poof*

Hypocrite.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#44559 Mar 19, 2014
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>are you talking about the one you laughed at for correctly stating the vacuum of space has no temperature?
are you talking about that one, moron?
lol
Namecaller, space is not vacuum.

“Sharia, NOT!”

Since: Jul 10

Suffolk, VA

#44560 Mar 19, 2014
OzRitz wrote:
<quoted text>
If you don't listen to Rush or Fox, WTF do you get the idea that welfare is responsible for all ills. Welfare constitutes only 10% of the US budget, Pensions 23%. Health 26%. Now if we dropped all of those that's almost 60% of the whole US budget. All those old people would just get sick and die, the pensioners would starve to death and the welfare moochers would have to rob 7 Eleven stores to survive. Why don't you explain to us, how this would make America a better place to live ? Given that the defense budget is as big as the pension, maybe your militia could help out in making some cuts there. Screaming that I don't get it about what a government is there for only applies to those who filter history and totally disregards any new challenges of what a government has to deal with in a modern world. As far as your concerned the laws drawn up in the time of the musket loader & fur trading is the only thing we should all live by, Totally ignoring all these new lil things like globalisation, climate change, terrorism, emerging super powers like China, political turmoil in the middle east & now in Europe, ageing populations & the huge burden that is on the budget, depletion of the Earth's resources along with a crowded planet, it is a endless list. So maybe it's time your lot moved up to the 21st Century instead of trying to recapture the past.
Detroit, Chicago, Washington DC, California, NYC Irest my case unless you want me to list more cities and states where welfare and Democrat control are the shining examples of failure?

“Sharia, NOT!”

Since: Jul 10

Suffolk, VA

#44561 Mar 19, 2014
OzRitz wrote:
<quoted text>
If you don't listen to Rush or Fox, WTF do you get the idea that welfare is responsible for all ills. Welfare constitutes only 10% of the US budget, Pensions 23%. Health 26%. Now if we dropped all of those that's almost 60% of the whole US budget. All those old people would just get sick and die, the pensioners would starve to death and the welfare moochers would have to rob 7 Eleven stores to survive. Why don't you explain to us, how this would make America a better place to live ? Given that the defense budget is as big as the pension, maybe your militia could help out in making some cuts there. Screaming that I don't get it about what a government is there for only applies to those who filter history and totally disregards any new challenges of what a government has to deal with in a modern world. As far as your concerned the laws drawn up in the time of the musket loader & fur trading is the only thing we should all live by, Totally ignoring all these new lil things like globalisation, climate change, terrorism, emerging super powers like China, political turmoil in the middle east & now in Europe, ageing populations & the huge burden that is on the budget, depletion of the Earth's resources along with a crowded planet, it is a endless list. So maybe it's time your lot moved up to the 21st Century instead of trying to recapture the past.
Oh and for the record: nearly 46% of the USA population receive tax refunds without paying (read real slow cause ya'll like to twist words) federal taxes.
If you think that is sustainable you're probably taking lots of medicinal marijuana.

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#44564 Mar 19, 2014
Socialism is for Sissies wrote:
<quoted text>Oh and for the record: nearly 46% of the USA population receive tax refunds without paying (read real slow cause ya'll like to twist words) federal taxes.
If you think that is sustainable you're probably taking lots of medicinal marijuana.
I'm aware of all these lil gems that you throw up including the "Detroit's" of this world. But no one ever questions how it got that way, at least not from your side of politics including the rust belt. It's just about "fix it" without any solutions, and who do you blame, the Country who stole their jobs or the people who allowed the jobs to go in the first place. After all the government spends more on corporate welfare than they ever do on social welfare. That's a fact and does anyone come on Fox screaming that. Nope not a soul! so if you really want to know what government should and should not do, you may want to rethink your plan.
For instance farm subsidies, should the government pay money for people to grow food.
Under your simple no "handouts" politics NO WAY lets import it all from a Chinese sewer farm or a cleared Amazon rain forest at half the cost. You see!, the world is a complex place now with complex solutions, Everything you do has a impact somewhere else and vice versa. There are NO simple solutions any more, unless you get everyone pointing in the same direction. Climate change is one of those complex things that needs everyone on board.

http://thinkbynumbers.org/government-spending...

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