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Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt...

There are 60036 comments on the Newsday story from Dec 14, 2008, titled Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt.... In it, Newsday reports that:

When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, global warming was a slow-moving environmental problem that was easy to ignore.

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denier

Zion, IL

#43614 Feb 17, 2014
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>What's no systematic change?
Clearly, you lie without facts. NOAA does this basic picture for people like you.
http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2010/imag...
See the ten indicators, seven going up while three going down..
Any questions?
. No they no most Americans are braindead and the no it will be easier to brainwash children I'm suprised they didn't put a dead teddy bear with x's for eyes

“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#43615 Feb 17, 2014
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>No, I don't get what you posted. You just say things that are irrelevant or wrong.
Extreme events, you are saying, are impacted by the increase in world population, right? How so?
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/severewea...
More people freeze to death because more people are skiing, huh? Gosh, where does this relate to AGW?
we agree on something!!! you sure didn't get what i posted, son.

lol

“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#43616 Feb 17, 2014
Fair Game wrote:
<quoted text>
I did. You ignored it.
Vacuous troll.
there's no proof. it either does or does not......not could or might.

you missed that!

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#43617 Feb 17, 2014
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>Extreme weather events are ever present. There's been no systematic change found in that FACT.
"human-induced increases in greenhouse gases have contributed to the observed intensification of heavy precipitation"

"twentieth-century anthropogenic greenhouse gas emissions increased the risk of floods occurring in England"

"irrefutable evidence provided by the record rainfall and storm surges."

"If it seems like the United States is getting more heavy storms and major floods these days, it's because we are"

"the increasing frequency and intensity of heavy rainfall events across the country."

"Recent decades have brought more heavy summer rainfall events along with increased likelihood of devastating floods."

"Climate change has contributed to a rise in extreme weather events - including higher-intensity hurricanes in the North Atlantic and heavier rainfalls across the country."

"Changes in many extreme weather and climate events have been observed since about 1950"
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>there's no proof. it either does or does not......not could or might.
you missed that!
No modal verbs there, lying troll.

Changes in exteme weather are an observable fact visible in many data sets, and science plainly says so.

No coulds or mights.

“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#43619 Feb 17, 2014
Fair Game wrote:
<quoted text>
"human-induced increases in greenhouse gases have contributed to the observed intensification of heavy precipitation"
"twentieth-century anthropogenic greenhouse gas emissions increased the risk of floods occurring in England"
"irrefutable evidence provided by the record rainfall and storm surges."
"If it seems like the United States is getting more heavy storms and major floods these days, it's because we are"
"the increasing frequency and intensity of heavy rainfall events across the country."
"Recent decades have brought more heavy summer rainfall events along with increased likelihood of devastating floods."
"Climate change has contributed to a rise in extreme weather events - including higher-intensity hurricanes in the North Atlantic and heavier rainfalls across the country."
"Changes in many extreme weather and climate events have been observed since about 1950"
<quoted text>
No modal verbs there, lying troll.
Changes in exteme weather are an observable fact visible in many data sets, and science plainly says so.
No coulds or mights.
<yawn> FACT.. weather and climate are ever changing.
FACT....hurricanes last year were at 40 year lows in the U.S. last season.
FACT....no experiment has been conducted showing the effect man made emission contribute to weather or climate.
FACT....you believe in a theory 100% that science hasn't begun to demonstrate.
FACT....yours is a faith based belief......not science.
WeatherMan

Corona Del Mar, CA

#43620 Feb 17, 2014
Fair Game wrote:
If it seems like the United States is getting more heavy storms and major floods these days, it's because we are. Global warming is partly to blame for these heavy rainfall events. Because warmer air can hold more moisture, heavier precipitation is expected in the years to come.
Now is the time to confront the realities of global warming, including the increasing frequency and intensity of heavy rainfall events across the country. We need to reduce the risks to riverfront communities. Important steps include discouraging development in flood-prone areas and protecting the natural systems, such as wetlands, that help to buffer against floods.
Recent decades have brought more heavy summer rainfall events along with increased likelihood of devastating floods. While no single storm or flood can be attributed directly to global warming, changing climate conditions are at least partly responsible for past trends. Because warmer air can hold more moisture, global warming is expected to bring more and heavier precipitation in the years to come.
http://www.nwf.org/Wildlife/Threats-to-Wildli...
The winter storm this year reminded me of the 1978 winter blizzard. Somethings going on. We're getting these giant blizzards now every 36 years.
SpaceBlues

United States

#43621 Feb 17, 2014
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>we agree on something!!! you sure didn't get what i posted, son.
lol
I know, I know. You'd like to agree with me..

Give it a try and read what I posted for your eyes. Can your brain catch up with your eyes?

“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#43622 Feb 17, 2014
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>I know, I know. You'd like to agree with me..
Give it a try and read what I posted for your eyes. Can your brain catch up with your eyes?
you should follow your own advice, son! if you're actually able to do so.

lol
Professor Emeritus Fellow

Corona Del Mar, CA

#43623 Feb 17, 2014
John Kerry joins us:

“Together, the U.S. and China account for some 40 percent of the carbon pollution that is released into the atmosphere,” Kerry told Chinese workers on Feb. 15 at the Cummins Inc. and Beiqi Foton Motor Co.(600166) joint venture, which produces clean diesel engines.“It is imperative for us to work together.”

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#43624 Feb 17, 2014
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text><yawn> FACT.. weather and climate are ever changing.
FACT....hurricanes last year were at 40 year lows in the U.S. last season.
FACT....no experiment has been conducted showing the effect man made emission contribute to weather or climate.
FACT....you believe in a theory 100% that science hasn't begun to demonstrate.
FACT....yours is a faith based belief......not science.
Typically of vacuous trolls on this thread, when you can't defend one point you made, you make five more, equally vacuous.

SpaceBlues

United States

#43625 Feb 17, 2014
WeatherMan wrote:
<quoted text>
The winter storm this year reminded me of the 1978 winter blizzard. Somethings going on. We're getting these giant blizzards now every 36 years.
Are you studying weather?
WeatherMan

Corona Del Mar, CA

#43626 Feb 17, 2014
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>Are you studying weather?
Yes, second year meteorology student in a accredited community college. Look at this about the floods in Britain:

For what it's worth, though, Mat Collins - a professor in climate systems at the University of Exeter and co-ordinating lead author to the IPCC - said at the weekend that the recent storms were not caused by climate change but by the jet stream being stuck further south than usual.
He said: "There is no evidence that global warming can cause the jet stream to get stuck in the way it has this winter. If this is due to climate change, it is outside our knowledge."

He says "no evidence".
litesong

Everett, WA

#43627 Feb 17, 2014
weatherMan wrote:
Mat Collins - a professor in climate systems..... recent storms were not caused by climate change....
AGW energy enhanced warm fronts are shoving hard into the high Arctic North Pole region, causing AVERAGE temperatures above the 80th parallel, as high as 16degC.(29degF) over normal. Simultaneously, AGW energy enhanced warm fronts are readily shoving Arctic cold fronts southward, with numerous areas in the low Arctic & further south, to reach below -40degC. At times the rapidly moving Arctic cold fronts can reach southern China, India, Iran, Iraq, northern Africa, Mexico, & Central America, setting cold temperature records.

At their greatest extent, AGW energy enhanced warm fronts have severely shoved Arctic cold fronts rapidly enough to set ALL TIME recorded southern low temperatures in some areas. In January 2009 AGW energy enhanced warm fronts poured into the Arctic, STOPPING ARCTIC SEA ICE FREEZING for 11 days & even reducing total Arctic sea ice. Simultaneously, the AGW energy enhanced warm fronts pushed Arctic cold south, such that Maine recorded its all time recorded low temperature of -50degF.

You can fund your professor, so he can get more schooling in AGW energy enhanced warm fronts & their effects.
litesong

Everett, WA

#43628 Feb 17, 2014
Ah...... weatherman, at the Mission, knows "prof sneeritus raunchy fellow", who we now know is Mat Collins.

weatherman & "prof sneeritus raunchy fellow" sound the same soundings, fer sure.

SpaceBlues

Dallas, TX

#43629 Feb 17, 2014
WeatherMan wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, second year meteorology student in a accredited community college. Look at this about the floods in Britain:
For what it's worth, though, Mat Collins - a professor in climate systems at the University of Exeter and co-ordinating lead author to the IPCC - said at the weekend that the recent storms were not caused by climate change but by the jet stream being stuck further south than usual.
He said: "There is no evidence that global warming can cause the jet stream to get stuck in the way it has this winter. If this is due to climate change, it is outside our knowledge."
He says "no evidence".
Well, others disagree with him and he does not resolve the difference.

OTOH,

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2011/11/08/3...

.. it is during ‘calmer’ climatic periods, when the climate system is influenced by external processes, that the researchers can see that the climate signals in the archives show similar trends in both the northern and southern hemispheres.
“This could be, for example, at the time of a meteorite crash, when an asteroid hits the earth or after a violent volcanic eruption when ash is spread across the globe. In these cases we can see similar effects around the world simultaneously”, says Svante Björck.

Professor Björck draws parallels to today’s situation. The levels of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere are currently changing very rapidly. At the same time, global warming is occurring.
SpaceBlues

Dallas, TX

#43630 Feb 17, 2014
litesong wrote:
Ah...... weatherman, at the Mission, knows "prof sneeritus raunchy fellow", who we now know is Mat Collins.
weatherman & "prof sneeritus raunchy fellow" sound the same soundings, fer sure.
Aww remember the fellow departed to teach the student.. now they are on the same page. hahahaha

They, erm, it is one, LOL.

“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#43631 Feb 17, 2014
Fair Game wrote:
<quoted text>
Typically of vacuous trolls on this thread, when you can't defend one point you made, you make five more, equally vacuous.
go right ahead and call me a troll, son!
lol
it's clearly an admission you couldn't deny my facts.

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#43632 Feb 17, 2014
WeatherMan wrote:
<quoted text>
The winter storm this year reminded me of the 1978 winter blizzard. Somethings going on. We're getting these giant blizzards now every 36 years.
The stuck jet stream this year reminds me of the stuck jet stream.... last year. It 's getting to be a regular thing.

Since: Jan 14

Location hidden

#43633 Feb 17, 2014
Well new yorkers, the teenages mutant ninja turtles are getting cold..

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#43634 Feb 17, 2014
WeatherMan wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, second year meteorology student in a accredited community college. Look at this about the floods in Britain:
For what it's worth, though, Mat Collins - a professor in climate systems at the University of Exeter and co-ordinating lead author to the IPCC - said at the weekend that the recent storms were not caused by climate change but by the jet stream being stuck further south than usual.
He said: "There is no evidence that global warming can cause the jet stream to get stuck in the way it has this winter. If this is due to climate change, it is outside our knowledge."
He says "no evidence".
This is a misrepresentation of the science. Nobody is saying global warming caused the storms.
Don't believe me? Let's listen to one of the MET office scientists:
Climate change is likely to be a factor in the extreme weather that has hit much of the UK in recent months, the Met Office's chief scientist has said.
Dame Julia Slingo said the variable UK climate meant there was "no definitive answer" to what caused the storms.
"But all the evidence suggests there is a link to climate change," she added.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-2608462...

The link with climate change is uncontroversial:
"There is an increasing body of evidence that extreme daily rainfall rates are becoming more intense, and that the rate of increase is consistent with what is expected from fundamental physics."
In short, it is unlikely to be a coincidence that four of the five wettest years and the seven warmest years on record in the UK have occurred from 2000 onwards.
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/f...

It is not true to say there is no evidence to suggest climate change can cause the jet stream to get stuck. This is a current theory in climate science. Not the consensus yet, but there is evidence for it.
The main system that helps determine the weather over Northern Europe and North America may be changing, research suggests.
The study shows that the so-called jet stream has increasingly taken a longer, meandering path.
This has resulted in weather remaining the same for more prolonged periods.
The work was presented at the annual meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS) in Chicago.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment...

As a meteorology student, this is a theory you will need to be aware of.

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