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“Sharia, NOT!”

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Chesapeake, VA

#43543 Feb 13, 2014
oneear69 wrote:
<quoted text> You talk of traveling the world, but you must have done it with blinders on. You havent a clue my friend. You are no doubt the kind that had mommy and daddy , baby you through life. You are a spoiled ignorant fool.Who hasn't a clue what hard work is about. This is quite apparent in every post you have printed.
What's the matter? Getting schooled by someone that doesn't fall for you liberal agenda so easily?
LOL
It's OK, I've seen this before.

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#43544 Feb 13, 2014
So, next time you hear an Israeli Prime Minister bleating about the so- called persecution of the Jews, consider this, every Prime Minister of Israel has been an Ashkenazi Jew. Therefore when all these Prime Ministers have curried favour with the West for their re-establishment of a Jewish homeland, they have knowingly and deliberately lied to you, as they were never from that region, and they well know it, because it is they who call themselves Ashkenazi Jews.

The Book of Revelation, Chapter 2, Verse 9, states the following which would appear to be about these Ashkenazi Jews:

"I know thy works, and tribulation and poverty,(but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, butare the synagogue of Satan." The most wealthy bloodline in the world bar none and the leader of the Ashkenazi Jews in the world today is the Rothschild family. As you will see in the timeline, the Rothschilds have obtained this position through lies, manipulation and murder. Their bloodline also extends into the Royal Families of Europe, and the following family names: Astor; Bundy; Collins; duPont; Freeman; Kennedy; Morgan; Oppenheimer; Rockefeller; Sassoon; Schiff; Taft; and Van Duyn. However, these are not the only bloodlines to worry about. You are probably aware of the centuries old pratice undertaken by many Ashkenazi Jews whereby they would change their name, in order for them to appear part of the dominant race of the country in which they lived, so as they could obtain influential positions in that country, which they would then exploit to serve their real masters elsewhere. There is plenty of evidence to prove the Rothschilds continue that deceptive tradition.

Furthermore the Rothschilds are known to sire many children secretly that they can put into positions of power when required. This started with the very first man who took the name Rothschild, who had a secret sixth son. Finally, remember the world is a diverse place, I could if I wanted change my name to Rothschild, or any of the names listed above, and that would not make me part of this family anymore than converting to Judaism in 740 A.D. will make these Ashkenazis Jewish.

Please, therefore, do not automatically assume someone you see with the name Rothschild or any of the names listed above are part of the Rothschild criminal network. Furthermore and most importantly, the majority of Ashkenazi Jews are innocent and not part of this network. Check the facts out for yourself first, this article is designed to inform people who the enemy is, not single out people of a particular race or people with a particular surname, who may have nothing to do with this Rothschild criminal network.

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#43546 Feb 13, 2014
Socialism is for Sissies wrote:
<quoted text>Thank you, thank you, thank you for making MY point. You ignorance.
Maybe you should read the Constitution?
Article 4 - The States; Section 4 - Republican Government
The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.
The word Democracy is not in there anywhere! Why? Maybe Madison in Federalist #10 is our answer:
"From this view of the subject it may be concluded that a pure democracy, by which I mean a society consisting of a small number of citizens, who assemble and administer the government in person, can admit of no cure for the mischiefs of faction...
A republic, by which I mean a government in which the scheme of representation takes place, opens a different prospect, and promises the cure for which we are seeking...
The two great points of difference between a democracy and a republic are: first, the delegation of the government, in the latter, to a small number of citizens elected by the rest; secondly, the greater number of citizens, and greater sphere of country, over which the latter may be extended...
In the first place, it is to be remarked that, however small the republic may be, the representatives must be raised to a certain number, in order to guard against the cabals of a few; and that, however large it may be, they must be limited to a certain number, in order to guard against the confusion of a multitude. Hence, the number of representatives in the two cases not being in proportion to that of the two constituents, and being proportionally greater in the small republic, it follows that, if the proportion of fit characters be not less in the large than in the small republic, the former will present a greater option, and consequently a greater probability of a fit choice...
Hence, it clearly appears, that the same advantage which a republic has over a democracy, in controlling the effects of faction, is enjoyed by a large over a small republic,—is enjoyed by the Union over the States composing it."
I suggest you are the child and lack education in these matters.
Again you show great ignorance, in not being able to comprehend what you have just read.

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#43547 Feb 13, 2014
Socialism is for Sissies wrote:
<quoted text>Funny thing is, I've traveled the world and it's you pin-hole liberals that see the world from your tiny mind perspectives. If you only knew what you have available here in America compared to the rest of the world. You lack the understanding of personal responsibility and freedoms that come from it. You want to give it all away for equality.
You assume your philosophies are correct and fault mankind for wanting to achieve great things. Man no longer lives in a cave because he sought greater things. It's his nature.
Funny how those that think like you are recorded in history as being the epitome of evil. You believe all men should be equal in all areas of life, socially, financially, religiously, politically and of course philosophically. I refer you to Hitler, Stalin, Chairman Mao, Lenin to name a few. Your kind even ignorantly hailed the terrorist Mandela who was imprisoned for terrorist activities and NOT for racism as you might hope.
It's also humorous how you espouse all these guys and yet ignore how they lived in great splendor and not according to their own teachings or philosophies. All in the name of equality. You are not much different than Hitler in that you constantly use the race card to create division. MLK absolutely would hate what liberals have done to minorities. reducing them to 2nd class citizens all the while proclaiming how you've "helped" them overcome their victimization. What a laugh. You make them your slaves to handouts. They ask for wishbones instead of backbones.
And you call me ignorant. Pfft!
My clueless friend, I am not liberal, but a Democratic Socialist.

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#43548 Feb 13, 2014
Socialism is for Sissies wrote:
<quoted text>Thank you, thank you, thank you for making MY point. You ignorance.
Maybe you should read the Constitution?
Article 4 - The States; Section 4 - Republican Government
The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.
The word Democracy is not in there anywhere! Why? Maybe Madison in Federalist #10 is our answer:
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Your inability to read the constitution as it was written for its time, and to translate that meaning into today's current situation is somewhat misguided.Yes the USA is still a republic, a system controlled by elitists for the common good of all. But it was also written to give opportunity of an informed and educated citenzry, to change with the times.Clearly when the constitution was written, less than 10% of the citizens had any kind of education, therefore , like children , they had to be guided by those who where of a higher intellect. This is not the case today,America has not reached that state of citenzry responsibility, The citenzry has the ability in solidarity and general consensus , to do away with a controlled Republic, which has been manipulated by self interest. Democracy is what the founders of the US foreseen , but understood that ,that kind of responsibility can only work with an informed and educated citenzry. Hence the reason, for your bread and circus, current political establishment.
litesong

Lynnwood, WA

#43549 Feb 13, 2014
social misfit wrote:
MLK absolutely would hate what liberals have done to minorities.......
King did..... weigh in on the Republican party during his lifetime. In Chapter 23 of his autobiography, King writes this about the 1964 Republican National Convention:
The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism. All people of goodwill viewed with alarm and concern the frenzied wedding at the Cow Palace of the KKK with the radical right. The “best man” at this ceremony was a senator whose voting record, philosophy, and program were anathema to all the hard-won achievements of the past decade.
Senator Goldwater had neither the concern nor the comprehension necessary to grapple with this problem of poverty in the fashion that the historical moment dictated. On the urgent issue of civil rights, Senator Goldwater represented a philosophy that was morally indefensible and socially suicidal. While not himself a racist, Mr. Goldwater articulated a philosophy which gave aid and comfort to the racist. His candidacy and philosophy would serve as an umbrella under which extremists of all stripes would stand. In the light of these facts and because of my love for America, I had no alternative but to urge every Negro and white person of goodwill to vote against Mr. Goldwater and to withdraw support from any Republican candidate that did not publicly disassociate himself from Senator Goldwater and his philosophy.
King barnstormed the country on behalf on Johnson in 1964,“maintaining only a thin veneer of nonpartisanship,” according to biographer Nick Kotz. King called Johnson’s win a “great victory for the forces of progress and a defeat for the forces of retrogress.”
Here is what King had to say about Ronald Reagan, the hero of modern Republicans:
When a Hollywood performer, lacking distinction even as an actor can become a leading war hawk candidate for the Presidency, only the irrationalities induced by a war psychosis can explain such a melancholy turn of events.

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#43550 Feb 13, 2014
Socialism is for Sissies wrote:
<quoted text>Funny thing is, I've traveled the world and it's you pin-hole liberals that see the world from your tiny mind perspectives. If you only knew what you have available here in America compared to the rest of the world. You lack the understanding of personal responsibility and freedoms that come from it. You want to give it all away for equality.
You assume your philosophies are correct and fault mankind for wanting to achieve great things. Man no longer lives in a cave because he sought greater things. It's his nature.
..........
First time I have seen you post something that is a strong argument & makes sense even tho the rest of the post wonders off in obvious bigotry. All the other throw away one liners about handouts etc belong in the 1950's it has no relevance in today's world.

The line about seeking greater things is true. But don't assume every great achievement ever made in the world is motivated by money. It's motivated by what they are seeking to achieve in the first place. In a Startrek world there is no money, no borders and all cultures are accepted. Your status is higher than the next person because of your achievements not because of your wealth. Now this fairy tale world that doesn't exist has some good fundamental principles. Your political bigotry concentrating on the handout section of society completely ignoring the greed section is flawed also. Gordon Geko's creed of Greed is Good may apply in Wall St but it sure as hell clashes living in a sustainable future. The Environment does not exist for you to take as much as you want, a plant only uses the water & nutrients it needs to survive, an animal the same. That is where your philosophy clashes with reality. You can still have your precious Capitalist system work only you put measures in place to curtail the greed, just as you put measures in place to curtail the handouts. That is the only formula for success in this finite planet of ours if we are going to survive without destroying it and each other.

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#43551 Feb 13, 2014
The right to bear arms, for example , was for the citenzry to defend itself from foreign and domestic governments that would try and change the rights and freedoms of the people. Therefore militias where formed in the interest of the whole. Bring us to 2014, and the right to bear arms , has been convoluted into personal protection of self interest, which has made the arms dealers very rich.you now have a population of paranoid people afraid of each other., carrying guns. Not something I believe the forefathers had in mind..

U.S. Constitution › Second Amendment
Second Amendment
Amendment II

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

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#43552 Feb 13, 2014
The Zeitgeist Movement hence
condones, could be summarized as:‘The application of The Scientific Method for social concern.’
Through the humane application of Science and Technology to social design and decision-making , we have the means to transform our tribalistic, scarcity driven, corruption filled environment into something exceedingly more organized, balanced, humane, sustainable and productive. To do so, we have to understand who we are, where we are, what we have, what we want, and how we are going to obtain our goals. Given the current state of affairs the reader should find that we not only need to move in another direction…we have to .

The current economic system is falling apart at an accelerating rate, with the prospect of worldwide unemployment occurring on the largest scale ever seen. Simultaneously, we are courting the “point of no return” in regard to the destruction of the environment.
Our current methods of social conduct have proven to have no chance in resolving the problems of environmental destruction, human conflict, poverty, corruption and any other issue that reduces the possibility of collective human sustainability on our planet. It is time we grow up as a species and really examine what the true problems and solutions are, as uncomfortable, untraditional and foreign as they might seem.
It is very important that those who begin this work pause for a moment and think about the windows of perspective they have been indoctrinated into.
Considering the current vastness of human values and ideologies, coupled with the identification that grows over time with associations to a particular train of thought, tradition or notion of reality, it can be difficult and even painful for a person to revise or remove the cherished understandings which they have considered true for long periods of time. This ‘ego’ association, coupled with the perpetual state of ‘limited knowledge’ eachone of us has, will be the biggest hurdle many will face when reading the information presented here.
It is time to broaden our loyalties and affiliations beyond the narrow confines of the marketplace, tradition, and the nation-state to encompass the human species as a whole, along with the planetary environment that supports us all. It is time we view the earth as an indivisible organic whole, a living entity composed of countless forms of life, all brought together in a single community.

If nature has taught us only one thing, it is that the only constant is change . There is no such thing as a Utopia . Therefore, in order for us to grow productively as a species, we need to become experts at “changing our minds” about anything and everything. If you choose to approach this material with a conscious attempt at being open minded and objective, we feel the ideas expressed here will realign your vision of the world, yourself, and the future of our human family in a way that is the most productive, humane and effective.

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#43553 Feb 13, 2014
There are many out there who would say that what we are describing here, that is the development of a Resource-Based Global Economy , would never happen. They would typically cite “human nature”, the “power elite” or erroneous technical opinions in their defense. This cynicism has no support in view of humanity’s technical and social development throughout history.
We have come from a world of extreme superstition, abject slavery and extreme racism and social prejudice, to a slowly emerging world of race equality, scientific ingenuity and emerging values that
desire to see humanity benefit as a whole.

In the words of Carl Sagan:
”The old appeals to racial, sexual and religious chauvinism, to rabid nationalist fervor, are beginning not to work. A
new consciousness is developing which sees the earth as a single organism, and recognizes that an organism at war
with itself, is doomed. We are one planet.”

We have gone from smoke signals to the telephone to electronic mail sent at near the speed of light.
Everything that has once been considered impossible has gradually become possible. The Wright Brothers were told by “experts” that it was impossible to fly…years ago people who talked of traveling
to the moon were dismissed and labeled as “Mooniacs”. To assume something is ‘impossible’ in this world is a failure of creativity.
If 120,000 people can come together to build a nuclear bomb, as was done with the Manhattan
Project in the late 1930s, there is no reason why we cannot come together and use human ingenuity to accomplish incredible social achievements for the betterment of humanity. It is time we unleash
our ‘Weapons of Mass Creation’(WMCs) unto the world. It is time we take responsibility for each other and ourselves. We have the knowledge, means and initiative to devise an entirely new social
architecture that can create a world we actually enjoy and flourish in.
Very simply, it is time to grow up.
Jacque Fresco, February 2009

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#43554 Feb 13, 2014
- THE ZEITGEIST MOVEMENT -
OBSERVATIONS AND RESPONSES
Activist Orientation Guide

http://tzmpolska.org/sites/default/files/eboo...
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#43555 Feb 13, 2014
More on our wonderful "clean coal" plant.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/02/13/1277...

Since: Oct 10

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#43556 Feb 13, 2014
gcaveman1 wrote:
More on our wonderful "clean coal" plant.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/02/13/1277...
strip mining of the Appalachian Mountains,
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/Mou...
http://www.orionmagazine.org/index.php/articl...
denier

Gurnee, IL

#43557 Feb 13, 2014
oneear69 wrote:
- THE ZEITGEIST MOVEMENT -
OBSERVATIONS AND RESPONSES
Activist Orientation Guide
http://tzmpolska.org/sites/default/files/eboo...
How do you get the worlds population to go along with this, I do belive we need a "balance" but this is a extreme change for the elites itl almost take a war, I think, what do you think?
Jose Rodriguez

Los Angeles, CA

#43558 Feb 13, 2014
oneear69 wrote:
- THE ZEITGEIST MOVEMENT -
OBSERVATIONS AND RESPONSES
Activist Orientation Guide
http://tzmpolska.org/sites/default/files/eboo...
You should go play Yahtzee with your kids. It's fun!

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#43559 Feb 13, 2014
denier wrote:
<quoted text>
How do you get the worlds population to go along with this, I do belive we need a "balance" but this is a extreme change for the elites itl almost take a war, I think, what do you think?
A RBE, is something that is possible now, we have the science, technology, ingenuity ,management skills as a whole, to move in a more responsible direction. The only thing holding us back is our piety social indifference's.As you say it could be war, or a total collapse of our economic system, a global revolution..That wakes people up. But even still, the maturity and education level it would take globally, could take generations. The ZM has been around now for about 7 yrs, they are very good at, explaining the problems of today, and have a very good ideal for what is possible, but they are stumped on how to get from A-Z, As the do not believe in government or the use of money. To me it would be best to use our current systems of democracy, present the ideals to the people, and by general consensus of the citenzry, move forward. They wouldn't need a leader, but perhaps a council of qualified people, who are experienced at their management roles the have been elected by an informed citenzry. As it is now, people elect a person as President or Prime Minister, he then hand picks the people who are in charge of the different ministries, people who are not qualified or educated in these fields of expertise, but rather get the position because of political favour.. Again, these are just different alternatives of choice, that are nothing but a pipe dream. Whats happening in some European countries now and in the middle east, could soon happen in China and south America. I don't see revolution coming to the states or Canada, as they have no backbone to stand up to their government. We are given just enough to be satisfied, regardless of whats going on in the rest of the world.

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#43560 Feb 13, 2014
Jose Rodriguez wrote:
<quoted text>
You should go play Yahtzee with your kids. It's fun!
I prefer Axis and Allies.
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#43561 Feb 14, 2014
I was just thinking, with the recent news that cold fusion is again being touted as possible (we'll see), what would happen if it became practical within the next few years.

I'll bet you would see another massive campaign by the fossil fuel companies to paint it as dangerous, expensive, and job-killing. It would be just as threatening to them as mitigation of climate change is now. That is, if they couldn't buy off the technology and bury it.

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#43562 Feb 14, 2014
The Need for Cyclical Consumption
The roles of people in a monetary system are basically broken into three distinctions:
The Employee, The Consumer, The Employer (or Owner/Producer)
&#61608;There is also the Investor who gives fiscal support to an Employer/Owner/Producer, or trades in the Financial markets for
gain. This isn’t relevant to the context for an investor is not required to exist in order for the market system to operate.
Planned Obsolescence can generally take two positions:
a) Intentional: Deliberate withholding of efficiency so the product in question breaks down.
b) Consequential: Profit based shortcuts taken in production, usually in the form of cheap materials/poor design, in an effort to save money and create repeat customers. This translates into an inferior product immediately.
[i.e.= The use of plastics for electronic enclosures is cheaper for the company and the consumer, but the durability of this material is poor in comparison to say, titanium metal, which is much more expensive.]
#2- The introduction of new products and services must be constant to offset any increased
efficiency of the prior generations of production, regardless of functional utility, generating
endless waste

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#43563 Feb 14, 2014
The Abundance of Scarcity
In Monetary Economics, the notion of “Supply and Demand” is a well-known construct, simply denoting that ‘the more there is of something, the less it is worth in respect to itself’’. For example, drinking water was historically a very abundant resource, which didn’t typically require payment for its consumption in a commercial sense. However, as pollution of the water table and city water systems have developed, filtered drinking water is now being commercially sold, often at a higher price than oil per gallon. In other words, it is profitable for resources to be scarce. If a company can convince the public that their product is “rare”, the more they can charge for that product. This provides a strong motivation to keep their items scarce. On yet another level, it should be pointed out that the central banks of nearly all countries also create scarcity within the money supply itself in order to keep pressure on the market system. Bernard Lietaer, designer of the EU currency system
points out:
“Greed and Competition are not the result of immutable human temperament…greed and fear of scarcity are in fact
being continuously created and amplified as a direct result of the kind of money we are using…We can produce more
than enough food to feed everybody…but there is clearly not enough money to pay for it all. The scarcity is in our

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