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There are 63970 comments on the Newsday story from Dec 14, 2008, titled Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt.... In it, Newsday reports that:

When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, global warming was a slow-moving environmental problem that was easy to ignore.

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#43375 Feb 9, 2014
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http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/research/ anomalies/index.html
http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/data/temperature
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp
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T.C. Peterson et.al., "State of the Climate in 2008," Special Supplement to the Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society, v. 90, no. 8, August 2009, pp. S17-S18.
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I. Allison et.al., The Copenhagen Diagnosis: Updating the World on the Latest Climate Science, UNSW Climate Change Research Center, Sydney, Australia, 2009, p. 11
http://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/news/201001 ...
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2009/ 01apr_deepsolarminimum.htm
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Levitus, et al, "Global ocean heat content 1955–2008 in light of recently revealed instrumentation problems," Geophys. Res. Lett. 36, L07608 (2009).
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L. Polyak, et.al.,“History of Sea Ice in the Arctic,” in Past Climate Variability and Change in the Arctic and at High Latitudes, U.S. Geological Survey, Climate Change Science Program Synthesis and Assessment Product 1.2, January 2009, chapter 7
R. Kwok and D. A. Rothrock,“Decline in Arctic sea ice thickness from submarine and ICESAT records: 1958-2008,” Geophysical Research Letters, v. 36, paper no. L15501, 2009
http://nsidc.org/sotc/sea_ice.html
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National Snow and Ice Data Center
World Glacier Monitoring Service
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http://lwf.ncdc.noaa.gov/extremes/cei.html
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http://www.pmel.noaa.gov/co2/story/What+is+Oc ...
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http://www.pmel.noaa.gov/co2/story/Ocean+Acid ...
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C. L. Sabine et.al.,“The Oceanic Sink for Anthropogenic CO2,” Science vol. 305 (16 July 2004), 367-371
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Copenhagen Diagnosis, p. 36.

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#43378 Feb 9, 2014
Anyone would think the way Al Gore gets attention from deniers that he invented global warming. All he did is sell a message, you choose not to believe it even tho he was just quoting someone else's science not his own. So Al being the messenger gets shot, sounds logical!...NOT

Since: Oct 10

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#43379 Feb 9, 2014
There is no doubt there is global warming, the ocean levels are rising, and the polar caps and glaciers are melting, The confusion or debate seems to be , how much mankind has a hand in it. Granted science is not perfect and it has changed and will continue to change when new facts are found. But global warming is our reality,the carbon of fossil fuel burning does contribute, as well as many natural variables. So do we take it seriously, and stop building so close to the shore lines, do we rotate our crops to change with the climate.
http://ozonewatch.gsfc.nasa.gov/facts/hole.ht...
http://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/sealevel.h...
http://www.nrdc.org/globalwarming/fcons/fcons...

Since: Oct 10

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#43380 Feb 9, 2014
Lord Hater wrote:
<quoted text> Weren't the oceans suppose to rise all ice caps melted ozone gone. All of this was dictated by science. But that science was wrong so now we have new science. Its just amazing how that works.
Read what the scientists say my friend, not what politicians say.

Since: Jul 11

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#43383 Feb 9, 2014
Just some info on what most deniers love to quote on the slowdown rate for warming. In other words, the pacific ocean is being churned like a washing machine taking surface heat lower.

"Global warming 'pause' due to unusual trade winds in Pacific ocean, study finds Study shows sharply accelerating trade winds have buried surface heat underwater, reducing heat flowing into atmosphere
Global warming ‘pause’ due to unusual trade winds in Pacific ocean.
The IPCC in 2013 pointed out that more than 90% of the world’s extra heat is being soaked up by the oceans, rather than lingering on the surface. The contentious "pause" in global warming over the past decade is largely due to unusually strong trade winds in the Pacific ocean that have buried surface heat deep underwater, new research has found. A joint Australian and US study analysed why the rise in the Earth's global average surface temperature has slowed since 2001, after rapidly increasing from the 1970s.
The research shows that sharply accelerating trade winds in central and eastern areas of the Pacific have driven warm surface water to the ocean's depths, reducing the amount of heat that flows into the atmosphere."

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/stu...
jimbo

Zion, IL

#43384 Feb 9, 2014
Pause, play pause, play wee this is fun!
litesong

Everett, WA

#43385 Feb 9, 2014
litesong wrote:
We know that almost all deniers didn't take science, chemistry, astronomy, physics, algebra, & pre-calc in their poorly (or non-) earned hi skule DEE-plooomaas. You say that you did, but still side with your deniers who didn't take science, chemistry, astronomy, physics, algebra, & pre-calc in their poorly (or non-) earned hi skule DEE-plooomaas.
That means you voluntarily accepted untruth, instead of exploring truthful science.
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"false farts" flopped:
We deniers are not part of the brain washed(so you say, but are)......Your so-called science has been full of so-called ......unreliable as Hitlery ......Go save a whale or a dolphin.
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litesong wrote:
re-pubic-lick-un deniers are reliable as Hitler evil & aren't part of science, chemistry, astronomy, physics, algebra, or pre-calc in their poorly(or non-) earned hi skule DEE-plooomaas. Can't save whales or dolphins that re-pubic-lick-un business, oil, & harpoons already killed.
denier

Zion, IL

#43386 Feb 10, 2014
samesong wrote:
samesong wrote:
We know that almost all deniers didn't take science, chemistry, astronomy, physics, algebra, & pre-calc in their poorly (or non-) earned hi skule DEE-plooomaas. You say that you did, but still side with your deniers who didn't take science, chemistry, astronomy, physics, algebra, & pre-calc in their poorly (or non-) earned hi skule DEE-plooomaas.
That means you voluntarily accepted untruth, instead of exploring truthful science.
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"false farts" flopped:
We deniers are not part of the brain washed(so you say, but are)......Your so-called science has been full of so-called ......unreliable as Hitlery ......Go save a whale or a dolphin.
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litesong wrote:
re-pubic-lick-un deniers are reliable as Hitler evil & aren't part of science, chemistry, astronomy, physics, algebra, or pre-calc in their poorly(or non-) earned hi skule DEE-plooomaas. Can't save whales or dolphins that re-pubic-lick-un business, oil, & harpoons already killed.
let me start by saying not all deniers are retardicans and I sure am not a dummi-crat or libtard, witch you must be cause all ya do is repeat yourself and assume all deniers are dumb republicans. The US gov is corrupt....

Here we go again folks same old litesong and dance I'm smart ur dum , maybe you should go to the obama our next pres forum ,more fitting for u
denier

Zion, IL

#43387 Feb 10, 2014
oneear69 wrote:
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http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/research/ anomalies/index.html
http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/data/temperature
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp
6
T.C. Peterson et.al., "State of the Climate in 2008," Special Supplement to the Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society, v. 90, no. 8, August 2009, pp. S17-S18.
7
I. Allison et.al., The Copenhagen Diagnosis: Updating the World on the Latest Climate Science, UNSW Climate Change Research Center, Sydney, Australia, 2009, p. 11
http://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/news/201001 ...
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2009/ 01apr_deepsolarminimum.htm
8
Levitus, et al, "Global ocean heat content 1955–2008 in light of recently revealed instrumentation problems," Geophys. Res. Lett. 36, L07608 (2009).
9
L. Polyak, et.al.,“History of Sea Ice in the Arctic,” in Past Climate Variability and Change in the Arctic and at High Latitudes, U.S. Geological Survey, Climate Change Science Program Synthesis and Assessment Product 1.2, January 2009, chapter 7
R. Kwok and D. A. Rothrock,“Decline in Arctic sea ice thickness from submarine and ICESAT records: 1958-2008,” Geophysical Research Letters, v. 36, paper no. L15501, 2009
http://nsidc.org/sotc/sea_ice.html
10
National Snow and Ice Data Center
World Glacier Monitoring Service
11
http://lwf.ncdc.noaa.gov/extremes/cei.html
12
http://www.pmel.noaa.gov/co2/story/What+is+Oc ...
13
http://www.pmel.noaa.gov/co2/story/Ocean+Acid ...
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C. L. Sabine et.al.,“The Oceanic Sink for Anthropogenic CO2,” Science vol. 305 (16 July 2004), 367-371
15
Copenhagen Diagnosis, p. 36.
more good info but I just have a hard time believing anything that says us.gov at the bottom, ya no what I mean ! Also since1880 1.4degrees globally I understand it takes a lot of energy to raise the temp globally but 1.4 doesn't seem convincing to most people. Have you seen the kelp beds off california there growing out of control do they absorb co2 out of the water? And I don't need anyone else's opinion thank-u !

Since: Jul 11

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#43388 Feb 10, 2014
denier wrote:
<quoted text> more good info but I just have a hard time believing anything that says us.gov at the bottom, ya no what I mean ! Also since1880 1.4degrees globally I understand it takes a lot of energy to raise the temp globally but 1.4 doesn't seem convincing to most people. Have you seen the kelp beds off california there growing out of control do they absorb co2 out of the water? And I don't need anyone else's opinion thank-u !
It's funny how you notice the kelp beds thriving but ignore the bigger picture like the West Coast running out of water, but nothing to worry about its no biggie. We can ignore that like we ignore everything else that is happening to the Planet.

http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2...

“Sharia, NOT!”

Since: Jul 10

Suffolk, VA

#43389 Feb 10, 2014
OzRitz wrote:
<quoted text>
It's funny how you notice the kelp beds thriving but ignore the bigger picture like the West Coast running out of water, but nothing to worry about its no biggie. We can ignore that like we ignore everything else that is happening to the Planet.
http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2...
Hmmm. And then there is the record rainfalls of 2013 as well: http://earthsky.org/earth/u-s-southeast-exper...
There are places on the globe that were once desert are now plush and vice versa. Go figure.

“Sharia, NOT!”

Since: Jul 10

Suffolk, VA

#43390 Feb 10, 2014
OzRitz wrote:
<quoted text>
It's funny how you notice the kelp beds thriving but ignore the bigger picture like the West Coast running out of water, but nothing to worry about its no biggie. We can ignore that like we ignore everything else that is happening to the Planet.
http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2...
Oh, did I mention that there is plenty of water on our planet? 2/3 covered if my 5th grade science was correct.

Since: Jul 11

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#43392 Feb 10, 2014
Socialism is for Sissies wrote:
<quoted text>Oh, did I mention that there is plenty of water on our planet? 2/3 covered if my 5th grade science was correct.
So using that logic do you suggest the West Coasters move to England where they are under water at the moment. That's your inconvenient truth.

“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#43393 Feb 10, 2014
The world is ever changing. People adapt. A carbon tax will not change climate. There's never been an experiment showing what co2 mitigation will actually achieve. Don't make knee jerk reactions, people. The world has more important and realistic problems to take on. Don't drink the snake oil.....it's probably petroleum based. You might have a reaction to it like the devil does to holy water!
SpaceBlues

United States

#43395 Feb 10, 2014
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
The world is ever changing. People adapt. A carbon tax will not change climate. There's never been an experiment showing what co2 mitigation will actually achieve. Don't make knee jerk reactions, people. The world has more important and realistic problems to take on. Don't drink the snake oil.....it's probably petroleum based. You might have a reaction to it like the devil does to holy water!
People are in refugee camps by the millions. What do you propose for them to adapt?

Knee jerk reactions will surely come after people stopped listening to deniers like you. Why don't you let people to discuss what's going on instead of diverting to nonsense like snake oil.
SpaceBlues

United States

#43396 Feb 10, 2014
OzRitz wrote:
<quoted text>
So using that logic do you suggest the West Coasters move to England where they are under water at the moment. That's your inconvenient truth.
Water of both kinds, fresh rain and salty sea.

What happens to soil in the aftermath? Can you grow anythiing after salt pollution?

Since: Jul 11

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#43399 Feb 10, 2014
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
The world is ever changing. People adapt. A carbon tax will not change climate. There's never been an experiment showing what co2 mitigation will actually achieve. Don't make knee jerk reactions, people. The world has more important and realistic problems to take on. Don't drink the snake oil.....it's probably petroleum based. You might have a reaction to it like the devil does to holy water!
No a carbon tax does not change the climate, it changes people's behaviour. So you rethink on what type of car you buy, how you energise your home etc. Change that and you change the planet or at least stop things from becoming worse because all the damage done so far is not going to repair itself quickly unless we come up with some wiz bang technology. In the meantime China is adding to the CO2 pollution pool with 1000's of new cars on the road every week. Human behaviour being what it is, they don't buy green they want the biggest polluters they can afford. So that will keep happening until they choke again, that is how behaviour is changed. It will be forced on them by government action whom you pay to look after the BIG picture. Just the same as it is in the US, none of you will do it on your own, it has to be forced on you for the good of all.

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2011/a...
denier

Zion, IL

#43400 Feb 10, 2014
WizardofOzRitz wrote:
<quoted text>
It's funny how you notice the kelp beds thriving but ignore the bigger picture like the West Coast running out of water, but nothing to worry about its no biggie. We can ignore that like we ignore everything else that is happening to the Planet.
http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2...
Hey genius read back I was the one who said"good news folks pineapple express brings much needed rain to California"
denier

Zion, IL

#43401 Feb 10, 2014
SpaceCadet wrote:
<quoted text>Water of both kinds, fresh rain and salty sea.
What happens to soil in the aftermath? Can you grow anythiing after salt pollution?


And you call yourself smart the've been growing In pheuket and other regions ravaged by the tsunami for years now!
SpaceBlues

United States

#43402 Feb 10, 2014
denier wrote:
<quoted text>
And you call yourself smart the've been growing In pheuket and other regions ravaged by the tsunami for years now!
I call myself SpaceBlues, duh.

Is that about the GB? And what do they grow after a tsunami? How soon, also? What do they have to do to the soil?

I love to learn new truth.

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