Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt...

There are 20 comments on the Dec 14, 2008, Newsday story titled Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt.... In it, Newsday reports that:

When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, global warming was a slow-moving environmental problem that was easy to ignore.

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denier

Gurnee, IL

#43128 Feb 4, 2014
litesong wrote:
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It already has. AGW enhanced warm fronts have been pushing hard into the NP region for the entire winter. High Arctic temperatures have been generally been high for 3+ months. Meanwhile, the excess AGW energy has been able continually to push cold Arctic air to Canada, the U.S. & low Siberia.
Yeah! You're cold because of excess energy in the atmosphere.
. Long as I can remember Minnesota has always had COLD winters and my great grandfather who lives there and is in his 90s he said were a buch a sissys this ain't cold when I was a kid I used to walk to school 10 miles up hill both ways in the snow! Now I know we've all heard that before ,so excessive energy in the atmosphere is not the case for Minnesota sorry !
Sarah

Fullerton, CA

#43129 Feb 4, 2014
John Kerry has solution to climate change. It's about time.
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( CNSNews.com )- Just as computer technology greatly expanded Americans' wealth in the 1990s, the clean energy market could do the same thing in the years ahead, Secretary of State John Kerry told the Munich Security Conference in Germany on Saturday.
He touted climate change as a societal challenge and an economic opportunity:
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"The energy market that we are staring at--that is the solution to the climate change," Kerry continued. "Energy policy is the solution to climate change. That market, my friends, is a $6-trillion market today with 4 to 5 billion users today, and it will grow to some 9 billion users over the course of the next 20 to 30 years."
denier

Gurnee, IL

#43130 Feb 4, 2014
What a genius! Pretty sure we've already seen failure with solindra and the rest of the wasted investments, this oughta be great,maybe they should invest in catalytic converters for their mouths!
gcaveman1

Laurel, MS

#43131 Feb 4, 2014
denier wrote:
What a genius! Pretty sure we've already seen failure with solindra and the rest of the wasted investments, this oughta be great,maybe they should invest in catalytic converters for their mouths!
You ARE a sissy!

And a crybaby, too!
truth facts

Sardinia, OH

#43132 Feb 4, 2014
OzRitz wrote:
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Of course find a Psyco that says climate change is real and that justifies your position of denial. That sounds logical Spock, Do you dismiss the 3 super cold storms coming your way that effects over 100 million Americans. 40% of all flights cancelled, transport to a stand still, how is this normal winter working out for you. Not to mention how many billion$ it costs, is this the adaptation phase we are in now ? Or just Mother Nature telling us how pleased she is.
Hey a new concept for you warmer kooks.It's called WINTER.My monies on mother nature.Not some scam,created by man.
truth facts

Sardinia, OH

#43133 Feb 4, 2014
gcaveman1 wrote:
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You ARE a sissy!
And a crybaby, too!
No the only cry babies here are you clown warmers.When people don't buy the snake oil your selling you pitch fits like little sissies.
truth facts

Sardinia, OH

#43134 Feb 4, 2014
Sarah wrote:
John Kerry has solution to climate change. It's about time.
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( CNSNews.com )- Just as computer technology greatly expanded Americans' wealth in the 1990s, the clean energy market could do the same thing in the years ahead, Secretary of State John Kerry told the Munich Security Conference in Germany on Saturday.
He touted climate change as a societal challenge and an economic opportunity:
...
"The energy market that we are staring at--that is the solution to the climate change," Kerry continued. "Energy policy is the solution to climate change. That market, my friends, is a $6-trillion market today with 4 to 5 billion users today, and it will grow to some 9 billion users over the course of the next 20 to 30 years."
John Kerry is a puppet.

Since: Mar 09

Wichita, KS

#43135 Feb 4, 2014
truth facts wrote:
<quoted text>John Kerry is a puppet.
As expected, no truth or facts.

“fairtax.org”

Since: Dec 08

gauley bridge wv

#43137 Feb 4, 2014
denier wrote:
<quoted text>I got six sock puppets at least I don't have al Gore's arm up my a$$ like you puppets
Hello dem! Why you hiding over here?
Truth Facts

Chillicothe, OH

#43138 Feb 4, 2014
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
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As expected, no truth or facts.
What that Kerry is a puppet?You are a patriot bozo or should I say parrot bozo.
denier

Gurnee, IL

#43139 Feb 4, 2014
gcaveman1 wrote:
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You ARE a sissy!
And a crybaby, too!
sissy and a crybaby huh? I'm pretty sure yall the crybabys buncha old a$$ burnt out hippies cryin cause it's cold out and cryin cause it's hot in the summer if you weren't huggin trees and hittin acid you wouldn't be so paranoid about the sky falling so crawl back to your cave and hit yourself with the club dum bass warmie !
denier

Gurnee, IL

#43140 Feb 4, 2014
flack wrote:
<quoted text> Hello dem! Why you hiding over here?
no I checked my list of sock puppets and dem ain't one of them?
denier

Gurnee, IL

#43141 Feb 4, 2014
Are you tryin to say patriots are bozos or do they call u patriot also known as bozo?
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#43142 Feb 4, 2014
denier wrote:
Are you tryin to say patriots are bozos or do they call u patriot also known as bozo?
Who cares! You are a denier anyway..

bbc.com : Ian Joughin and Ben Smith of the University of Washington's Polar Science Center in Seattle analysed pictures from the German TerraSAR-X satellites to measure the speed of the glacier.

"As the glacier moves we can track changes between images to produce maps of the ice flow velocity," said Dr Joughin, the study's lead author.

In the summer of 2012, the glacier reached a record speed of more than 17km per year - more than 46m per day.

"We are now seeing summer speeds more than four times what they were in the 1990s on a glacier which at that time was believed to be one of the fastest, if not the fastest, glacier in Greenland," Ian Joughin explained.

The researchers noted that summer speeds are temporary, with the glacier flowing more slowly over the winter months.

But they added that even the annually averaged speed-up over the past couple of years is nearly three times what it was in the 1990s.

Though Jakobshavn is now believed to be the fastest flowing feature of its type in the world, Prof Jonathan Bamber, a glaciologist from the University of Bristol, told BBC News that it might not be the fastest movement ever observed because some surging glaciers can flow very quickly for short periods (on the order of months).

The increasing velocity of Jakobshavn, located in the south-west of Greenland, means that the glacier is adding more and more ice to the ocean, contributing to sea-level rise.

Since: Oct 13

Location hidden

#43143 Feb 4, 2014
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>Who cares! You are a denier anyway..
bbc.com : Ian Joughin and Ben Smith of the University of Washington's Polar Science Center in Seattle analysed pictures from the German TerraSAR-X satellites to measure the speed of the glacier.
"As the glacier moves we can track changes between images to produce maps of the ice flow velocity," said Dr Joughin, the study's lead author.
In the summer of 2012, the glacier reached a record speed of more than 17km per year - more than 46m per day.
"We are now seeing summer speeds more than four times what they were in the 1990s on a glacier which at that time was believed to be one of the fastest, if not the fastest, glacier in Greenland," Ian Joughin explained.
The researchers noted that summer speeds are temporary, with the glacier flowing more slowly over the winter months.
But they added that even the annually averaged speed-up over the past couple of years is nearly three times what it was in the 1990s.
Though Jakobshavn is now believed to be the fastest flowing feature of its type in the world, Prof Jonathan Bamber, a glaciologist from the University of Bristol, told BBC News that it might not be the fastest movement ever observed because some surging glaciers can flow very quickly for short periods (on the order of months).
The increasing velocity of Jakobshavn, located in the south-west of Greenland, means that the glacier is adding more and more ice to the ocean, contributing to sea-level rise.
Feel free to set me right.
If the glacial is moving fast and dropping into the ocean. Is not the ice being replaced at the back end with new ice?
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#43144 Feb 4, 2014
Lord Hater wrote:
<quoted text> Feel free to set me right.
If the glacial is moving fast and dropping into the ocean. Is not the ice being replaced at the back end with new ice?
Abstract. We have extended the record of flow speed on Jakobshavn Isbræ through the summer of 2013. These new data reveal large seasonal speedups, 30 to 50% larger than previous summers. At a point a few kilometres inland from the terminus, the mean annual speed for 2012 is nearly three times as large as that in the mid 1990s, while the peak summer speeds are more than a factor of 4 greater. These speeds were achieved as the glacier terminus retreated to the bottom of an overdeepened basin with a depth of ~ 1300 m below sea level. While retreat may slow slightly as the terminus retreats farther – to a moderate rise in the bed – it is likely to reach the deepest section of the trough within a few decades, at which point it should rapidly retreat to the shallower regions ~ 50 km farther upstream, potentially by the end of this century.

What do you say?
denier

Gurnee, IL

#43145 Feb 4, 2014
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>Who cares! You are a denier anyway..
bbc.com : Ian Joughin and Ben Smith of the University of Washington's Polar Science Center in Seattle analysed pictures from the German TerraSAR-X satellites to measure the speed of the glacier.
"As the glacier moves we can track changes between images to produce maps of the ice flow velocity," said Dr Joughin, the study's lead author.
In the summer of 2012, the glacier reached a record speed of more than 17km per year - more than 46m per day.
"We are now seeing summer speeds more than four times what they were in the 1990s on a glacier which at that time was believed to be one of the fastest, if not the fastest, glacier in Greenland," Ian Joughin explained.
The researchers noted that summer speeds are temporary, with the glacier flowing more slowly over the winter months.
But they added that even the annually averaged speed-up over the past couple of years is nearly three times what it was in the 1990s.
Though Jakobshavn is now believed to be the fastest flowing feature of its type in the world, Prof Jonathan Bamber, a glaciologist from the University of Bristol, told BBC News that it might not be the fastest movement ever observed because some surging glaciers can flow very quickly for short periods (on the order of months).
The increasing velocity of Jakobshavn, located in the south-west of Greenland, means that the glacier is adding more and more ice to the ocean, contributing to sea-level rise.
man I don't know you need to get out more I mean you ever been fishing or something your gonna drive yourself crazy living like this I mean I do understand and all bit really if u ain t bill f in gates or rich as all hell there ain't sh!t you or i could really do I recycle I drive a dam 4 cylinder to work you want us to ride horses I mean that would be cool but we would be goin backwards!
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#43146 Feb 4, 2014
Have you tried running backwards? COOL..

Since: Oct 13

Location hidden

#43147 Feb 4, 2014
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>Abstract. We have extended the record of flow speed on Jakobshavn Isbræ through the summer of 2013. These new data reveal large seasonal speedups, 30 to 50% larger than previous summers. At a point a few kilometres inland from the terminus, the mean annual speed for 2012 is nearly three times as large as that in the mid 1990s, while the peak summer speeds are more than a factor of 4 greater. These speeds were achieved as the glacier terminus retreated to the bottom of an overdeepened basin with a depth of ~ 1300 m below sea level. While retreat may slow slightly as the terminus retreats farther – to a moderate rise in the bed – it is likely to reach the deepest section of the trough within a few decades, at which point it should rapidly retreat to the shallower regions ~ 50 km farther upstream, potentially by the end of this century.
What do you say?
Sounds like a politician's response to a question, lot of talking but no substance.

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#43148 Feb 4, 2014
denier wrote:
<quoted text> man I don't know you need to get out more I mean you ever been fishing or something your gonna drive yourself crazy living like this I mean I do understand and all bit really if u ain t bill f in gates or rich as all hell there ain't sh!t you or i could really do I recycle I drive a dam 4 cylinder to work you want us to ride horses I mean that would be cool but we would be goin backwards!
One of the main points about clean energy as a business enterprise. It has the potential to have the same impact as the invention of the auto-mobile. But this gets totally lost on you deniers, despite being told over and over again. If fossil fuels were made accountable to the impact they have on the planet then there would be no more Solyndra failures only ongoing successes. The next Bill Gates could be some genius that invents a battery that's clean to manufacture and holds energy for months. It could be someone else that comes up with an easy fuel source, there are endless possibilities but they can only come about by making fossil fuel accountable for the damage done.

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