Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt...

There are 53458 comments on the Newsday story from Dec 14, 2008, titled Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt.... In it, Newsday reports that:

When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, global warming was a slow-moving environmental problem that was easy to ignore.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at Newsday.

Leahe

Madison, WI

#42930 Jan 26, 2014
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
In the video, I did see a cooling trend in the late 60's thru 70's. It feels like it is cooling back down right now. I think temperatures fluctuate. If the planet was really as red as seen in video, we wouldn't have to look forward to a morning commute in -20 degree temps (wind chill not included) as I will have to tomorrow. I am not looking forward to this at all! Last year we had a long snowy cold winter as well. It dumped a foot of snow in Minnesota in May!
Leahe

Madison, WI

#42931 Jan 26, 2014
horsecrud wrote:
"Globalization" warming is bs that was created by the global powers to take control of the world's resources all your silly graphs and charts don't mean jack cause the powers that made this garbage up created them you people will believe anything it's pretty sad
If there was global warming, we wouldn't have to look forward to minus 20 degree mornings for our commute to work like we have to tomorrow. This has been a horrid winter so far. At least they will open the back door of the work building to to the parking lot, so we don't have to trek too far. I need my tautun. LOL

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#42932 Jan 26, 2014
Jamaal wrote:
<quoted text>
You're not ready to throw old fashioned temperature data collection of the late 19th century and the early 20th Century under the bus in favor of ice core data, are you? Instrumentation is everything. My great grandfather always said for him and his coworkers there was never enough time to do the scheduled calibration of the data collection thermometers. That was mostly in and around St. Louis and Cincinnati.
Of course not, because local data is important but it would not matter if grandpa had an instrument out of cal. The readings would be consistent and it would not throw out a trend on a graph over a long period of time. Declaring warming is in error because of a broken thermometer is as bad as saying warming is over because your taps are frozen.
gcaveman1

Laurel, MS

#42933 Jan 26, 2014
Nike, which has more than 700 factories in 49 countries, many in Southeast Asia, is also speaking out because of extreme weather that is disrupting its supply chain. In 2008, floods temporarily shut down four Nike factories in Thailand, and the company remains concerned about rising droughts in regions that produce cotton, which the company uses in its athletic clothes.

“That puts less cotton on the market, the price goes up, and you have market volatility,” said Hannah Jones, the company’s vice president for sustainability and innovation. Nike has already reported the impact of climate change on water supplies on its financial risk disclosure forms to the Securities and Exchange Commission.

Both Nike and Coke are responding internally: Coke uses water-conservation technologies and Nike is using more synthetic material that is less dependent on weather conditions. At Davos and in global capitals, the companies are also lobbying governments to enact environmentally friendly policies.

-NYT

“what's for dinner”

Since: Jan 14

Location hidden

#42934 Jan 26, 2014
None of you know nothing... If something was to happen major here us new yorker's would just panic and die.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#42935 Jan 26, 2014
Do you drink soft drinks?

I personally could perhaps once a year and don't miss drinking soft drinks at all.

FORTUNATELY, guys

Environmentally friendly, energy-dense sugar battery developed to power the world's gadgets

The battery is also refillable and sugar can be added to it much like filling a printer cartridge with ink.
gcaveman1

Laurel, MS

#42936 Jan 26, 2014
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>No, I haven't. I hope they find it..
:-)
P.S. This poster under different names flashes the same item. Trying to sell it, huh?
A grass-roots effort to break all the thermometers of the past?

“what's for dinner”

Since: Jan 14

Location hidden

#42938 Jan 27, 2014
bunch of skito's and whack jobs
litesong

Lynnwood, WA

#42939 Jan 27, 2014
Leahe wrote:
I am a democrat, but believe GW is just not happening. We just had a deep freeze to the tune of -20 degrees F. two weeks ago, and we are in for another. Also, the arctic "gained" ice this year, and many ice boats got stuck in the ice in Antarctica over Christmas.
Warm fronts push hard into the high Arctic NP, with temperatures that have been over temperature for 140 days. Presently, while International Falls, Minnesota is -41degF, the high Arctic above the 80th parallel averages 11defC(20 degF) over the normal. The warm fronts strongly push Arctic cold unto Canada & the U.S. AND why you have cold toes in Wisconsin. In 2009 Arctic sea ice quantity melted in January with temperatures 14degC over the average, while the warm fronts pushed Arctic cold south AND Maine set its all-time recorded low temperature of -50degF.

As for the the SP, AGW scientists predicted in 2002, re-confirmed in 2005 & as you point out, that Antarctica sea ice would increase.

Democrats need to know science & understand truth, knowing that Wisconsin is part of the rest of the world & is affected by the rest of the world.
gcaveman1

Laurel, MS

#42940 Jan 27, 2014
Jamaal wrote:
<quoted text>
You're not ready to throw old fashioned temperature data collection of the late 19th century and the early 20th Century under the bus in favor of ice core data, are you? Instrumentation is everything. My great grandfather always said for him and his coworkers there was never enough time to do the scheduled calibration of the data collection thermometers. That was mostly in and around St. Louis and Cincinnati.
You have no information, just a longing for the good old days and a deep fear of the new.
gcaveman1

Laurel, MS

#42941 Jan 27, 2014
horsecrud wrote:
"Globalization" warming is bs that was created by the global powers to take control of the world's resources all your silly graphs and charts don't mean jack cause the powers that made this garbage up created them you people will believe anything it's pretty sad
You have no information, just a longing for the good old days and a deep fear of the new.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#42942 Jan 27, 2014
gcaveman1 wrote:
<quoted text>
A grass-roots effort to break all the thermometers of the past?
Don't know, seriously.

Gossip is cheap but recorded measurements are not in their hands. Past tobacco fight was similar in a sense because cancer takes about three decades to be diagnosed.

Wasn't it the courts that put the nails on the tobacco lobby's coffin? Courts are the focus again.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#42943 Jan 27, 2014
gcaveman1 wrote:
<quoted text>To another poster:

You have no information, just a longing for the good old days and a deep fear of the new.
Is it not hilarious that these deniers don't know history? Those were the bad ol' days, really.

The civil war, racism, earthquakes, hurricanes, depression, world wars,.. Heck the automobil and telephone barely started a century ago and took a long time to become available to the common people.

Aww did his great grandfather get paid or not?
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#42944 Jan 27, 2014
-Sprocket- wrote:
bunch of skito's and whack jobs
How old are you?

No school today?
Breaking

Los Angeles, CA

#42945 Jan 27, 2014
"This is serious business"
==========
The Earth's protective field extends thousands of miles into space and its magnetism affects everything from global communication to animal migration and weather patterns

Experts believe we're currently overdue a flip, but they're unsure when this could occur.

If a switch happens, we would be exposed to solar winds capable of punching holes into the ozone layer.

The impact could be devastating for mankind, knocking out power grids, radically changing Earth’s climate and driving up rates of cancer.

‘This is serious business’, Richard Holme, Professor of Earth, Ocean and Ecological Sciences at Liverpool University told MailOnline.‘Imagine for a moment your electrical power supply was knocked out for a few months – very little works without electricity these days.’

The Earth's climate would change drastically. In fact, a recent Danish study believes global warming is directly related to the magnetic field rather than CO2 emissions.

The study claimed that the planet is experiencing a natural period of low cloud cover due to fewer cosmic rays entering the atmosphere.
litesong

Lynnwood, WA

#42946 Jan 27, 2014
SpaceBlues wrote:
No school today?
Of course not. It probably joined the nine touched, toxic topix AGW deniers who have no science, chemistry, astronomy, physics, algebra or pre-calc because they quit before getting a hi skule DEE-plooomaa.
litesong

Lynnwood, WA

#42947 Jan 27, 2014
Breaking wrote:
a recent Danish study believes global warming is directly related to the magnetic field rather than CO2 emissions.
Study led by Henrik Svensmark, long time toxic AGW denier, who grabs anything that comes along to throw against AGW.

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#42948 Jan 27, 2014
Breaking wrote:
"This is serious business"
==========
The Earth's protective field extends thousands of miles into space and its magnetism affects everything from global communication to animal migration and weather patterns
Experts believe we're currently overdue a flip, but they're unsure when this could occur.
If a switch happens, we would be exposed to solar winds capable of punching holes into the ozone layer..........
.
I was wondering how long it would take before we got a pole shift post as another reason for climate change. I mean deniers love to grab hold of anything they can that points the finger away from man.

Those poor ole climate scientists can't think of everything, but a blog from some ringer can change the world with a genius theory.

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#42949 Jan 27, 2014
While we are quoting every right wing source disputing global warming based on opinions not fact. Then I thought it would be nice to post a survey on how right wingers think.

Daily Mail:

"Right-wingers are less intelligent than left wingers, says study
Children with low intelligence grow up to be prejudiced
Right-wing views make the less intelligent feel 'safe'
Analysis of more than 15,000 people "
'Cognitive abilities are critical in forming impressions of other people and in being open minded,' say the researchers.
'Individuals with lower cognitive abilities may gravitate towards more socially conservative right-wing ideologies that maintain the status quo.
'It provides a sense of order.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/articl...
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#42950 Jan 27, 2014
Breaking wrote:
"This is serious business"
==========
The Earth's protective field extends thousands of miles into space and its magnetism affects everything from global communication to animal migration and weather patterns
Experts believe we're currently overdue a flip, but they're unsure when this could occur.
If a switch happens, we would be exposed to solar winds capable of punching holes into the ozone layer.
The impact could be devastating for mankind, knocking out power grids, radically changing Earth’s climate and driving up rates of cancer.
‘This is serious business’, Richard Holme, Professor of Earth, Ocean and Ecological Sciences at Liverpool University told MailOnline.‘Imagine for a moment your electrical power supply was knocked out for a few months – very little works without electricity these days.’
The Earth's climate would change drastically. In fact, a recent Danish study believes global warming is directly related to the magnetic field rather than CO2 emissions.
The study claimed that the planet is experiencing a natural period of low cloud cover due to fewer cosmic rays entering the atmosphere.
This should help with your confusion:

Finally, a paper published last month in Geophysical Research Letters compared measurements of cosmic rays and cloud cover changes, and found no detectable connection between the two. This study is consistent with many previous papers finding that cosmic rays are not effective at seeding clouds. Likewise, in the CERN CLOUD experiments, Almeida et al.(2013) found


"ionising radiation such as the cosmic radiation that bombards the atmosphere from space has negligible influence on the formation rates of these particular aerosols [that form clouds]"

Thus every step in the galactic cosmic ray-climate hypothesis is fraught with problems. Evidence suggests that cosmic rays are not effective at seeding clouds. Solar activity has been flat, and even slightly downwards over the past few decades. Galactic cosmic ray flux on Earth has been flat, even slightly upwards over the past few decades. 2009, which saw a record number of cosmic rays reaching Earth (meaning it should have been cold), was the 5th-hottest year on record at the time.

This failed hypothesis offers a stark contrast to the overwhelming consensus that our greenhouse gas emissions are driving warming. The latter is supported by solid, well-understood fundamental physics. We know that increasing the greenhouse effect causes more energy to be trapped on Earth, and that energy has to go somewhere. The observed pattern of warming is precisely what we expect to see from an increased greenhouse effect, for example with the 'fingerprint' of a cooling upper atmosphere due to more heat being trapped in the lower atmosphere.[skepticalscience]

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