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There are 63397 comments on the Newsday story from Dec 14, 2008, titled Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt.... In it, Newsday reports that:

When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, global warming was a slow-moving environmental problem that was easy to ignore.

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Breaking

Corona Del Mar, CA

#42945 Jan 27, 2014
"This is serious business"
==========
The Earth's protective field extends thousands of miles into space and its magnetism affects everything from global communication to animal migration and weather patterns

Experts believe we're currently overdue a flip, but they're unsure when this could occur.

If a switch happens, we would be exposed to solar winds capable of punching holes into the ozone layer.

The impact could be devastating for mankind, knocking out power grids, radically changing Earth’s climate and driving up rates of cancer.

‘This is serious business’, Richard Holme, Professor of Earth, Ocean and Ecological Sciences at Liverpool University told MailOnline.‘Imagine for a moment your electrical power supply was knocked out for a few months – very little works without electricity these days.’

The Earth's climate would change drastically. In fact, a recent Danish study believes global warming is directly related to the magnetic field rather than CO2 emissions.

The study claimed that the planet is experiencing a natural period of low cloud cover due to fewer cosmic rays entering the atmosphere.
litesong

Everett, WA

#42946 Jan 27, 2014
SpaceBlues wrote:
No school today?
Of course not. It probably joined the nine touched, toxic topix AGW deniers who have no science, chemistry, astronomy, physics, algebra or pre-calc because they quit before getting a hi skule DEE-plooomaa.
litesong

Everett, WA

#42947 Jan 27, 2014
Breaking wrote:
a recent Danish study believes global warming is directly related to the magnetic field rather than CO2 emissions.
Study led by Henrik Svensmark, long time toxic AGW denier, who grabs anything that comes along to throw against AGW.

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#42948 Jan 27, 2014
Breaking wrote:
"This is serious business"
==========
The Earth's protective field extends thousands of miles into space and its magnetism affects everything from global communication to animal migration and weather patterns
Experts believe we're currently overdue a flip, but they're unsure when this could occur.
If a switch happens, we would be exposed to solar winds capable of punching holes into the ozone layer..........
.
I was wondering how long it would take before we got a pole shift post as another reason for climate change. I mean deniers love to grab hold of anything they can that points the finger away from man.

Those poor ole climate scientists can't think of everything, but a blog from some ringer can change the world with a genius theory.

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#42949 Jan 27, 2014
While we are quoting every right wing source disputing global warming based on opinions not fact. Then I thought it would be nice to post a survey on how right wingers think.

Daily Mail:

"Right-wingers are less intelligent than left wingers, says study
Children with low intelligence grow up to be prejudiced
Right-wing views make the less intelligent feel 'safe'
Analysis of more than 15,000 people "
'Cognitive abilities are critical in forming impressions of other people and in being open minded,' say the researchers.
'Individuals with lower cognitive abilities may gravitate towards more socially conservative right-wing ideologies that maintain the status quo.
'It provides a sense of order.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/articl...
SpaceBlues

United States

#42950 Jan 27, 2014
Breaking wrote:
"This is serious business"
==========
The Earth's protective field extends thousands of miles into space and its magnetism affects everything from global communication to animal migration and weather patterns
Experts believe we're currently overdue a flip, but they're unsure when this could occur.
If a switch happens, we would be exposed to solar winds capable of punching holes into the ozone layer.
The impact could be devastating for mankind, knocking out power grids, radically changing Earth’s climate and driving up rates of cancer.
‘This is serious business’, Richard Holme, Professor of Earth, Ocean and Ecological Sciences at Liverpool University told MailOnline.‘Imagine for a moment your electrical power supply was knocked out for a few months – very little works without electricity these days.’
The Earth's climate would change drastically. In fact, a recent Danish study believes global warming is directly related to the magnetic field rather than CO2 emissions.
The study claimed that the planet is experiencing a natural period of low cloud cover due to fewer cosmic rays entering the atmosphere.
This should help with your confusion:

Finally, a paper published last month in Geophysical Research Letters compared measurements of cosmic rays and cloud cover changes, and found no detectable connection between the two. This study is consistent with many previous papers finding that cosmic rays are not effective at seeding clouds. Likewise, in the CERN CLOUD experiments, Almeida et al.(2013) found


"ionising radiation such as the cosmic radiation that bombards the atmosphere from space has negligible influence on the formation rates of these particular aerosols [that form clouds]"

Thus every step in the galactic cosmic ray-climate hypothesis is fraught with problems. Evidence suggests that cosmic rays are not effective at seeding clouds. Solar activity has been flat, and even slightly downwards over the past few decades. Galactic cosmic ray flux on Earth has been flat, even slightly upwards over the past few decades. 2009, which saw a record number of cosmic rays reaching Earth (meaning it should have been cold), was the 5th-hottest year on record at the time.

This failed hypothesis offers a stark contrast to the overwhelming consensus that our greenhouse gas emissions are driving warming. The latter is supported by solid, well-understood fundamental physics. We know that increasing the greenhouse effect causes more energy to be trapped on Earth, and that energy has to go somewhere. The observed pattern of warming is precisely what we expect to see from an increased greenhouse effect, for example with the 'fingerprint' of a cooling upper atmosphere due to more heat being trapped in the lower atmosphere.[skepticalscience]
SpaceBlues

United States

#42952 Jan 27, 2014
-Sprocket- wrote:
<quoted text>I'm old enouhh to spot a skitzo.. School was over years ago... I'm justafied and Bonified. Bugger off freak
So you dropped out!

Your post is incorrect in English language. Are you planning to educate yourself?
litesong

Everett, WA

#42954 Jan 27, 2014
sprunked wrote:
.....enouhh ..... School was over years ago... justafied and Bonified.
Your spelling & your mental state shows that you should have stayed in school.
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#42955 Jan 27, 2014
Breaking wrote:
"This is serious business"
==========
The Earth's protective field extends thousands of miles into space and its magnetism affects everything from global communication to animal migration and weather patterns
Experts believe we're currently overdue a flip, but they're unsure when this could occur.
If a switch happens, we would be exposed to solar winds capable of punching holes into the ozone layer.
The impact could be devastating for mankind, knocking out power grids, radically changing Earth’s climate and driving up rates of cancer.
‘This is serious business’,
Armageddon science.

Magnetic reversals take one to 10,000 years to complete. Your computer wouldn't notice, and neither would you, being dead.4827
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#42956 Jan 28, 2014
gcaveman1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Armageddon science.
Magnetic reversals take one to 10,000 years to complete. Your computer wouldn't notice, and neither would you, being dead.4827
Getting too excited about squashing a nutjob leads to typos.

Should be, "Magnetic reversals take one thousand to 10,000 years to complete."

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#42957 Jan 28, 2014
horsecrud

Zion, IL

#42959 Jan 28, 2014
gcaveman1 wrote:
<quoted text>
You have no information, just a longing for the good old days and a deep fear of the new.
oh I got plenty of info all ya gotta do is read back on this forum to find out that when you globots get shown up you start callin names and claiming your levels of intelligence it's pretty funny actually can't wait for your response

Horsecrud
SpaceBlues

United States

#42960 Jan 28, 2014
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
http://www.realclimate.org/ind ex.php/archives/2014/01/global -temperature-2013/
Where is all that cooling?
And every one should understand this graph's meaning:

http://www.scilogs.de/klimalounge/files/giste...

One can see the effects of La Nina and Le Nino years regardless as far as the global warming is concerned..
SpaceBlues

United States

#42961 Jan 28, 2014
gcaveman1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Getting too excited about squashing a nutjob leads to typos.
Should be, "Magnetic reversals take one thousand to 10,000 years to complete."
Nutjobs didn't even notice a thing. LOL.

Those magnetic reversals are discussed well in Wikipedia.. A short extract:

A geomagnetic reversal is a change in the Earth's magnetic field such that the positions of magnetic north and magnetic south are interchanged. The Earth's field has alternated between periods of normal polarity, in which the direction of the field was the same as the present direction, and reverse polarity, in which the field was the opposite. These periods are called chrons. The time spans of chrons are randomly distributed with most being between 0.1 and 1 million years[ with an average of 450,000 years. Most reversals are estimated to take between 1,000 and 10,000 years. The latest one, the Brunhes–Matuyama reversal, occurred 780,000 years ago. A brief complete reversal, known as the Laschamp event, occurred only 41,000 years ago during the last glacial period. That reversal lasted only about 440 years with the actual change of polarity lasting around 250 years. During this change the strength of the magnetic field dropped to 5% of its present strength. Brief disruptions that do not result in reversal are called geomagnetic excursions..[Wikipedia]
Los Angeles

Corona Del Mar, CA

#42962 Jan 28, 2014
Enact FULLY the Kyoto Protocols before it's too late. Write your congressman. TWICE.

You want the Statue of Liberty under water? Well do you?



The film's scientific adviser was Dr. Michael Molitor, a leading climate change consultant who worked as a negotiator on the Kyoto Protocol.
Southern Ohio

Corona Del Mar, CA

#42963 Jan 28, 2014
It's cold.

The U.S. Department of Commerce said the Ohio River at Cincinnati has frozen 14 times since 1874, the last two being 1977 and 1978.

The river also froze during the winters of 1904-1905, 1917-1919 and 1940.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#42964 Jan 28, 2014
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>And every one should understand this graph's meaning:
http://www.scilogs.de/klimalounge/files/giste...
One can see the effects of La Nina and Le Nino years regardless as far as the global warming is concerned..
I really think most understand but just do not want to admit it. The Republican way of the past few years has been to repeat and repeat their falsehoods until prejudiced folks accept it as truth. Admitting errors is perceived as a weakness by them.

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#42966 Jan 28, 2014
horsecrud wrote:
<quoted text>oh I got plenty of info all ya gotta do is read back on this forum to find out that when you globots get shown up you start callin names and claiming your levels of intelligence it's pretty funny actually can't wait for your response
Horsecrud
No you give yourselves the "Ignorant" label just by what you type. If it was something meaningful or challenging that gave a rational explanation why all these 1000's of scientists are involved in some world wide conspiracy to gain funding and control the world. Including the ones in China who have passed the US now with emission pollution.

"Chinese state media said on Thursday that construction workers are en route to the future site of China’s fourth Antarctic research station, after a pit stop at one of its other bases. The new station will be a hub for climate change science"

Make you wonder why they would bother, don't you think they would be listening to Rush telling us its all a hoax. After all they are commies, they know how to control billions of people with their propaganda machine. Why not relay Rush or Beck to let them know the truth. This is something you deniers just can't handle, you can give us crap about volcanoes and pole shifts but you can never nail why all political persuasions (except extreme right wingers) see climate change as a serious problem.
Truth Facts

Chillicothe, OH

#42967 Jan 28, 2014
Again! Massive fudging on global-warming temps
Scientist:'These shenanigans have been going on for decades'
Published: 22 hours ago
Bob Unruh About | Email | Archive Bob Unruh joined WND in 2006 after nearly three decades with the Associated Press, as well as several Upper Midwest newspapers, where he covered everything from legislative battles and sports to tornadoes and homicidal survivalists. He is also a photographer whose scenic work has been used commercially.
An independent data analyst whose work has been published by Principia Scientific, where scientists deliberate and debate, throwing out predetermined political results in favor of the truth in the data, says the global warming activists are at it again.
They’re manipulating the data.
In this case, lowering the historical temperatures for years prior to 2000. Which makes the temperatures after that look like they’ve risen. Which makes it look like global warming.
“A newly uncovered and monumental calculating error in official U.S. government climate data shows beyond doubt that climate scientists unjustifiably added a whopping one degree of phantom warming to the official ‘raw’ temperature record,” the report says.
It comes from the discovery by independent data analyst Steven Goddard, who did a study of the official U.S. temperature records used by NASA, the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration and others.
He found that for the records, when global temperatures plummeted in 1999, on the official U.S. chart, they didn’t.
Essentially, he said, the charge was revised downward by one degree for readings before 2000. But they “left post-2000 temperatures more or less intact.”
“Does this evidence prove an intentional fraud? Goddard certainly thinks it possible,” the science site analysis explains,“and only a full examination of all the files will show that, one way or the other.… The ramifications are that hundreds of billions of tax dollars have been misallocated to ‘solve’ a non-problem, all due to willful malfeasance and/or incompetence in data handling.”
The analysis continued,“Just last month (December 2013), John Beale, the senior EPA policy adviser, was convicted and jailed for defrauding taxpayers out of $1 million in salaries and expenses. Does a culture of corruption extend through departments associated with climate policy?”
“Climategate” exposes the global warming scam. Get it now at the WND Superstore.
At the CATO Institute, a separate report on 2013 temperatures noted,“Please be advised that this history has been repeatedly ‘revised’ to either make temperatures colder in the earlier years or warmer at the end. Not one ‘adjustment’ has the opposite effect, a clear contravention of logic and probability.”
Columnist Vox Day wrote at Absolute Rights that it’s just another “smoking gun in the fraud-filled field of ‘climate science.’”
“THE GW KOOKS ARE COOKING THE BOOKS

Since: Jul 11

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#42969 Jan 28, 2014
It must be like drinking poison for you deniers listening to Obama's State of the Union address. More American homes with solar panels, gas powered trucking & especially the statement "Climate change is REAL and we are going to do something about it". Poor ole Bonehead speaker couldn't bring himself to clap. Because he knows the poor ole fossil fuel deniers are looking down the barrel right now and there is no where to run.

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