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There are 61107 comments on the Newsday story from Dec 14, 2008, titled Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt.... In it, Newsday reports that:

When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, global warming was a slow-moving environmental problem that was easy to ignore.

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Mothra

Tempe, AZ

#42594 Jan 10, 2014
gcaveman1 wrote:
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... not when we emit 9.7 billion metric tons of CO2 a year.
entire atmosphere. 5.5 quadrillion tons.

Don't you hate it when folks just toss out really big numbers without any context to make an argument?

“Sharia, NOT!”

Since: Jul 10

Suffolk, VA

#42595 Jan 10, 2014
gcaveman1 wrote:
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It's not due to sunspot activity...or lack thereof.
Manmade activity isn't like ants at a picnic, not when we emit 9.7 billion metric tons of CO2 a year.
There. Fixed it for you.
And yet, NASA can't seem to see it with their birds in the air?
Bird is the vernacular for satellites for you liberal artists and grant seekers.

Since: Jul 13

Freehold, NJ

#42596 Jan 10, 2014
Fair Game wrote:
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Did you read it?
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And what leads to higher pressure?
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I don't see anything in bligh's post that contradicts mine: he also seems to be saying that a warming Arctic has lead to a weaker vortex and bigger wobbles, but as he seems to have a far more detailed understanding than mine, perhaps I should let him answer that?
hey...Your explanation was close enough and that's exactly whats going on. Thanks You for being aware.

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#42597 Jan 10, 2014
Socialism is for Sissies wrote:
<quoted text>And yet, NASA can't seem to see it with their birds in the air?
Bird is the vernacular for satellites for you liberal artists and grant seekers.
No all they see is the ice shrinkage at both poles and all those super storm formations. They throw out the warnings but with deniers "If we can't see it, then can't hurt us." Kinda like chemical warfare after you have sucked in a few big ones, then its a bit late to break out the gas mask. It would just be some much cheaper to reign in emissions than deal with this crap.
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#42598 Jan 10, 2014
Lindzen, Hanson, Mann; none of them matter to the real science and the real situation. All denier arguments are pointless and irrelevant. There IS NO DEBATE as to whether AGW is happening or as to whether or not Man is causing it. The only legitimate arguments that TRUE SKEPTICS can make is how much and how bad it will be.

Reference the following story about Charleston, SC as a microcosm of the world situation in the American context.

Some people just flat-out deny the reality. Some are trying to protect their interests and continue to profit for as long as possible. Some know it is happening and want and need to do something about it. Some are actually making plans. Everyone considers AGW and SLR to be dirty words, for their own reasons.

Nature-gone-mad will overrule them all..

http://www.climatecentral.org/news/the-front-...
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#42599 Jan 10, 2014
Mothra wrote:
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entire atmosphere. 5.5 quadrillion tons.
Don't you hate it when folks just toss out really big numbers without any context to make an argument?
And don't I hate it when folks just toss out really big numbers without understanding their significance?
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#42600 Jan 10, 2014
Socialism is for Sissies wrote:
<quoted text>And yet, NASA can't seem to see it with their birds in the air?
Bird is the vernacular for satellites for you liberal artists and grant seekers.
So you have satellites that can?

Please...publish your work.
B as in B S as in S

Minneapolis, MN

#42601 Jan 10, 2014
Mothra wrote:
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entire atmosphere. 5.5 quadrillion tons.
Don't you hate it when folks just toss out really big numbers without any context to make an argument?
"...9.7 billion metric tons of CO2 a year.": Obviously; common sense and a bit of knowledge exposes this quoted statistic as a random 'made up' number. Anthropogenic CO2 emissions are much much more than 9.7b tons.

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#42602 Jan 10, 2014
B as in B S as in S wrote:
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"...9.7 billion metric tons of CO2 a year.": Obviously; common sense and a bit of knowledge exposes this quoted statistic as a random 'made up' number. Anthropogenic CO2 emissions are much much more than 9.7b tons.
Yep, China alone produced 6.2 Billion CO2 last year.

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#42603 Jan 10, 2014
B as in B S as in S wrote:
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"...9.7 billion metric tons of CO2 a year.": Obviously; common sense and a bit of knowledge exposes this quoted statistic as a random 'made up' number. Anthropogenic CO2 emissions are much much more than 9.7b tons.
I would never have ascribed either common sense or the teeniest. tiniest bit of knowledge to you, but you would seem to be right.
Data show that global CO2 emissions in 2012 hit 35.6bn tonnes
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment...
B as in B S as in S

Minneapolis, MN

#42604 Jan 10, 2014
Respiration alone represents 1.4b tonnes/year.
B as in B S as in S

Minneapolis, MN

#42605 Jan 10, 2014
... in China.

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#42606 Jan 10, 2014
Mothra wrote:
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entire atmosphere. 5.5 quadrillion tons.
Don't you hate it when folks just toss out really big numbers without any context to make an argument?
Classic polluter argument: it's a big pond, my gallon of used motor oil won't be noticed.
The Stinker

Madisonville, KY

#42607 Jan 10, 2014
OzRitz wrote:
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Yep they are ticked off at the likes of you for ignoring all the warnings this would happen in the first place. Doesn't matter if you freeze to death or cook to death or drown, climate change is what it is CLIMATE CHANGE brought on by global warming and made by man. All of which you ignore!
Claiming that this little episode of cold weather is caused by global warming is the silliest thing I've ever heard of.
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#42609 Jan 10, 2014
B as in B S as in S wrote:
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"...9.7 billion metric tons of CO2 a year.": Obviously; common sense and a bit of knowledge exposes this quoted statistic as a random 'made up' number. Anthropogenic CO2 emissions are much much more than 9.7b tons.
Not made up. This is the amount of carbon released into the atmosphere. I failed to multiply that figure by 3.67, which would give you the correct amount of CO2 at 35.6 billion tons.

Which, I think, makes my point to Mothballs about 3.67 times stronger.
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#42610 Jan 10, 2014
The Stinker wrote:
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Claiming that this little episode of cold weather is caused by global warming is the silliest thing I've ever heard of.
At some point, we will have to ascribe a single weather event to global warming. It won't be too silly then.

Even then, we won't be able to say the event was CAUSED by global warming, but that it was a natural weather event that was intensified by it.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#42611 Jan 11, 2014
The Stinker wrote:
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Claiming that this little episode of cold weather is caused by global warming is the silliest thing I've ever heard of.
The AGW rules as long as 90 million tons of GHG's are discharged daily into our breath..

“Sharia, NOT!”

Since: Jul 10

Hampton, VA

#42612 Jan 11, 2014
OzRitz wrote:
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No all they see is the ice shrinkage at both poles and all those super storm formations. They throw out the warnings but with deniers "If we can't see it, then can't hurt us." Kinda like chemical warfare after you have sucked in a few big ones, then its a bit late to break out the gas mask. It would just be some much cheaper to reign in emissions than deal with this crap.
Really? Lies. Germany says otherwise. They are not after grant money I guess:
http://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/natur/sate...
And England: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment...
And even NASA says record growth!!!! http://phys.org/news/2013-10-antarctic-sea-ic...

Remember, Al Gore invented the internet so it's harder for liberal artists to lie. LOL

“Sharia, NOT!”

Since: Jul 10

Hampton, VA

#42613 Jan 11, 2014
Fair Game wrote:
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Classic polluter argument: it's a big pond, my gallon of used motor oil won't be noticed.
Or an oil leak in the gulf of Mexico that they couldn't find on shore?
Pfft!
Nature even takes care of itself without man's help.

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#42614 Jan 11, 2014
Socialism is for Sissies wrote:
<quoted text>Really? Lies. Germany says otherwise. They are not after grant money I guess:
http://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/natur/sate...
And England: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment...
And even NASA says record growth!!!! http://phys.org/news/2013-10-antarctic-sea-ic...
Remember, Al Gore invented the internet so it's harder for liberal artists to lie. LOL
Sea Ice is a WHOLE lot different than mainland ice which is melting away. Sea ice is seasonal and a lot of it comes from the mainland after melting away. No one declares warming is over because of freaking sea ice formation, only the ignorant.
Like warming you guys grab any spike in the graph that deviates from a downward slide in the ice cover and vice versa with warming. Despite having up and down swings over thousands of years you declare its all over on one spike in any given year. So much for science

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