Once slow-moving threat, global warmi...

Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt...

There are 53964 comments on the Newsday story from Dec 14, 2008, titled Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt.... In it, Newsday reports that:

When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, global warming was a slow-moving environmental problem that was easy to ignore.

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litesong

Lynnwood, WA

#42417 Jan 3, 2014
[QUOTE who="hay, now"]Global warming cancels 1/3 of Cleveland air traffic today.
12 inches of global warming snowfall on its way to the northeast.[/QUOTE]

AGW enhanced Siberian warm fronts are pushing hard into the NP region, warming it exceedingly. Furthermore, the warm fronts are pushing Arctic cold to the south, causing much cold, outside of the Arctic.

I also note the fast AGW enhanced jet stream. While planes at the airports, wait out the weather, other planes that are above the weather, in the jet stream, sizzle over New York at 720+mph. In essence, armadas of airplanes advantageously surf the jet stream at 720-760mph. In one region(I say region instead of place because the plane was too fast to be in one place), a 747 was surfing on the jet stream at 807mph, romping through the sky non-stop from LA to England. The jet stream was so good, the pilot followed the jet stream, altho the plane, at some point, would have to begin moving to the north to get to England. Another 747 was shooting along at 799mph, many scores of miles behind the lead plane. & dozens of miles behind that plane, was a tri-jet plane also moving fast. All these planes were sizzling by other planes, moving in slightly different directions, but getting boosts from the jet stream at 700+mph.

These highest speeds I've noted, probably aren't unrelated to the AGW enhanced weather systems on the ground. Maybe, I'll go look again.
Mothra

Mesa, AZ

#42418 Jan 3, 2014
litesong wrote:
<quoted text>
Babble boy strikes again!
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#42419 Jan 3, 2014
Socialism is for Sissies wrote:
<quoted text>Look! Squirrel!
LOL
LOOL.

P.S. No wonder you are speechless.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#42420 Jan 3, 2014
The Trojan Horse wrote:
It's good to know that so many of you don't understand the difference between real science and that which has been bought with those hard earned Corporate dollars.
Why is it good to know?

Ahh you are sold on corporate dollars, yes?
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#42421 Jan 3, 2014
Socialism is for Sissies wrote:
<quoted text>Remember to keep the sun out of this, K? It has absolutly NOOOOOOOO affect on the climate of earth. Here, because your likely rolling your ignorant eyes: http://iceagenow.info/2013/08/prepare-decades... (one of many articles saying the same thing)
Next, let's also forget about volcanic activities because that too has NOOOOOOOO affect on climate. http://www.global-climate-change.org.uk/2-6-3...
Afterall, what is science for?
Man are ants at a picnic when it comes to planet earth.
NOOOOOOOO affect???

Hahahahaha ants and men!
gcaveman1

Ellisville, MS

#42422 Jan 3, 2014
Socialism is for Sissies wrote:
<quoted text>Let me repeat: "The reason is because the earth makes it's own adjustments inspite of man-made activity.
If there was this massive amount of CO2 then plants would flourish increasing greenery that would cool the planet. Or CO2 would create cloud cover that would cool the earth. Or volcanic activity puts ash in the atmosphere that cools the earth.
The earth is 2/3 water so any evaporation would create more water distributions that might even cool desert areas.
This is all 5th grade science.
You global warmers, climate changers are all sqealing about something that you have no control over but what to control mankind thru. It's that simple.
Are you smarter than a 5th grader? "
Apparently not.
Your "facts" are disputed regularly.

A massive amount of CO2 might make ALL plants flourish, at least for a while. ALL PLANTS, including but not limited to poison ivy, kudzu, dandelion, ragweed, and the weeds farmers constantly fight now.

A massive amount of CO2 that changes regional climate and daily weather can cause the rains to come too early or too late, too little or too much; can cause early freezes or long droughts; can cause any number of undesirable effects.

CO2 could create cloud cover that would cool the earth or warm the earth. Ever heard of Venus? Massive CO2 content in the atmosphere, ground temperatures north of 700*.

Volcanoes? That's geology, vulcanology, not climate. Yes, they put all sorts of things in the air, one of which is particulates.

Yes, deserts could get more rain. But they could get drier. More evaporation means more precipitation but there's no guarantee that wind patterns would distribute it much differently. But desert soils still couldn't grow much for 100 years or so.

It may be 5th grade science, but you have yet to integrate it all. You suffer from a common affliction among deniers, the black and white mindset, to wit:

all plants need the same amount of water, the same amount of sunlight, the same amount of cold weather.

No.

all clouds are alike, all clouds do the same thing.

No.

all volcanoes erupt the same way and emit the same gases.

No.

All rain is good.

No.

It's a very complex world. I don't understand it all.

BUT I'M WAAAYY AHEAD OF YOU!
Truth Facts

Chillicothe, OH

#42423 Jan 3, 2014
OzRitz wrote:
<quoted text>
You be another one of those "the Heat plays in Miami" guys. I know Fox would have done the scientists stuck in ice story to death so that's why it is mentioned here every second post.
Yet it still can't get through that filter in the brain that global warming = climate change.
Climate change doesn't just mean the summers are hotter, it also means too much rain, not enough rain, too much snow, no snow, stronger hurricanes etc etc etc. It's all of the above, yet post after post we get moronic statements how cold it is outside today in your locale. Nothing about that will change, as long as the average temps on the planet keep rising expect more extreme weather no matter what part of the world you live in.
Here's a fact for you moron: More people around the world freeze to death than die from heat exposure.Your all a bunch of clowns right up to your leader,OBOZO the clown.
LessHypeMoreFact

Toronto, Canada

#42424 Jan 3, 2014
gcaveman1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Your "facts" are disputed regularly.
A massive amount of CO2 might make ALL plants flourish, at least for a while. ALL PLANTS, including but not limited to poison ivy, kudzu, dandelion, ragweed, and the weeds farmers constantly fight now.
Most 'weeds' are C4 plants which means that they will get more of a boost from high CO2 levels than C3 crops. Typically the most productive crop plants are C3 since the synthesis mechanism uses less energy allowing more of the incoming light to produce food storage.

A good reference is New Scientist, Sept 11, 2010 on page 43
litesong

Lynnwood, WA

#42425 Jan 3, 2014
motheaten mothballs wrote:
...... strikes again!
"motheaten mothballs" muffs again.

Since: Mar 09

Wichita, KS

#42426 Jan 3, 2014
Truth Facts wrote:
<quoted text>Here's a fact for you moron: More people around the world freeze to death than die from heat exposure.Your all a bunch of clowns right up to your leader,OBOZO the clown.
Actually.....
https://www.sciencenews.org/sites/default/fil...
litesong

Lynnwood, WA

#42427 Jan 3, 2014
social misfit is unfit wrote:
Look! Squirrel!
Look! Squirrel gun.
Mothra

Mesa, AZ

#42428 Jan 3, 2014
litesong wrote:
<quoted text>
.
babble boy just keeps babbling
Hey baby

Los Angeles, CA

#42429 Jan 3, 2014
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
That study was discredited years ago. Poor data. Handled tsunamis improperly, etc , etc
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#42430 Jan 3, 2014
Hey baby wrote:
<quoted text>
That study was discredited years ago. Poor data. Handled tsunamis improperly, etc , etc
It is a pie chart.

Do you have a better one?
gcaveman1

Ellisville, MS

#42431 Jan 3, 2014
LessHypeMoreFact wrote:
<quoted text>
Most 'weeds' are C4 plants which means that they will get more of a boost from high CO2 levels than C3 crops. Typically the most productive crop plants are C3 since the synthesis mechanism uses less energy allowing more of the incoming light to produce food storage.
A good reference is New Scientist, Sept 11, 2010 on page 43
Thanks. That's clarifying.

The "More CO2 is Good!" crowd fails to account for the other effects of CO2 because it starts to get very complicated and they can't process that much information.
Mothra

Mesa, AZ

#42432 Jan 3, 2014
gcaveman1 wrote:
<quoted text>
,,, it starts to get very complicated and they can't process that much information.
Sounds like warmists and their models.

Since: Mar 09

Wichita, KS

#42433 Jan 4, 2014
Hey baby wrote:
<quoted text>
That study was discredited years ago. Poor data. Handled tsunamis improperly, etc , etc
Who told you that?(Probably not a scientist, but folks like you only believe other like you....))
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#42435 Jan 4, 2014
Mothra wrote:
<quoted text>
Sounds like warmists and their models.
No, what I said was the "More CO2 is Good!" crowd fails to account for the other effects of CO2 because it starts to get very complicated and they can't process that much information.

And THAT sounds like you!
Mothra

Mesa, AZ

#42436 Jan 4, 2014
gcaveman1 wrote:
<quoted text>
And THAT sounds like you!
Zealots 'hear' all kinds of things.
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#42439 Jan 4, 2014
Reading is Fundamental wrote:
Lol. Yes they do. Never mind about the scientific evidence. This is why STEM education is important for the youth.
www.trainerwithbenefits.wordpress.com
Yes, but Mothra is not a youth. He is beyond STEM. He is apparently a large, moth-like, Japanese science fiction character.

"Mothra has been portrayed as using a number of special abilities. It has been shown to have the ability to spray silk, fly, metamorphose, generate hurricane-force wind, scatter poison and use various magical energy attacks." -Wiki

With all those powers, Mothra don't need no steenking education!

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