Once slow-moving threat, global warmi...

Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt...

There are 63620 comments on the Newsday story from Dec 14, 2008, titled Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt.... In it, Newsday reports that:

When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, global warming was a slow-moving environmental problem that was easy to ignore.

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DARK CLOUDS OVER SOLAR

Dover, OH

#41743 Dec 5, 2013
All across America, even atop the White House, homeowners are installing rooftop solar panels. The trend has been propelled not by forecasts for sunnier weather, but in large part by generous government tax breaks aimed at rewarding those who purchase panels and help reduce greenhouse gases.

Few companies have been as adept at capitalizing on Uncle Sam's largess as SolarCity (ticker: SCTY), a San Mateo, Calif.–based company that sells, leases and installs solar systems, and is backed by celebrity entrepreneur Elon Musk. SolarCity controls 17% of the market for residential solar installations, the largest share in a highly fragmented industry, and has found dedicated fans on both Main and Wall streets. Its shares have nearly quadrupled, to a recent $31.34, since their December 2012 initial public offering, giving the company a market value of $2.5 billion. Some analysts see the stock topping $40 in the next year.

But growth could prove more elusive than many investors think. Barron's analysis of data from California and Arizona found that the company estimates a fair market value for its panels—a key factor in determining the level of government subsidies—well above that of its competitors. In fact, the federal government has been investigating whether SolarCity and some other solar-panel firms possibly misrepresented the value of their systems to receive larger subsidies.

ANOTHER OBAMA FRAUD!!!!!!!!!!

http://online.barrons.com/article/SB500014240...
litesong

Everett, WA

#41744 Dec 5, 2013
motheaten wrote:
The 'income divide' has gotten worse under Obama.....
....as it generally does under euro & transplanted euro power systems. Worker unions produced a strong middle class, which transplanted euro upper floor big business propaganda PEE-R has been attacking(often with physical violence) ever since unions formed.

An excellent case (in absentia), proving the argument by its opposite, are the LACK OF STRONG UNIONS in the fast food service sector. With the failing economy(& even before), continually older employees(now averaging 29 years of age) have been forced to these jobs, even to the point of making them careers. But ever downward(as if they had far to go from the beginning), wages & benefits have plummeted even lower. Sub-survival existence is given to millions of employees, while upper crust paper shufflers & people shovers use subsidies from gov't to float their multi-million dollar bonus, retirement & stock option packages.
litesong

Everett, WA

#41745 Dec 5, 2013
warmed over vapor wrote:
..... the South Pole(in truth, Antarctic shoreline sea) ice was thicker and wider than it’s been in 35 years.)
In early 2000's AGW scientists said Antarctic sea ice would increase...... because of AGW.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#41746 Dec 5, 2013
DARK CLOUDS OVER SOLAR wrote:
ANOTHER OBAMA FRAUD!!!!!!!!!!
Poor Thing!
It must be depressing to be so negative and obsessed.
ANOTHER OBAMA FRAUD

Dover, OH

#41747 Dec 5, 2013
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
<quoted text>
Poor Thing!
It must be depressing to be so negative and obsessed.
...SolarCity and some other solar-panel firms possibly misrepresented the value of their systems to receive larger subsidies.

ANOTHER OBAMA FRAUD!!!!!!!!!!

Do you see the irony when an Obamabot labels others as negative and obsessed?
LessHypeMoreFact

Orleans, Canada

#41748 Dec 5, 2013
Mothra wrote:
<quoted text>
The 'income divide' has gotten worse under Obama.
Superman he is not. And you could criticize him for not backing out the extension of presidential powers that Bush made (to override a Democrat House) which he has kept to help him against a Republican House. But he is at least working on solutions, not whinging and deciding to be a problem like the right wing.
LessHypeMoreFact

Orleans, Canada

#41749 Dec 5, 2013
ANOTHER OBAMA FRAUD wrote:
<quoted text>...SolarCity and some other solar-panel firms possibly misrepresented the value of their systems to receive larger subsidies.
ANOTHER OBAMA FRAUD!!!!!!!!!!
Do you see the irony when an Obamabot labels others as negative and obsessed?
Come back when you know something. Speculation on business dealings is useless. They scam people all the time, like blackstone loaning that spanish company $100m if they would be late on a payment to their previous loan (and thus give Blackstone a $15.6m payout on the 'credit default swap' insurance. At last Obama is trying. Something you cannot say about his opposites.
latest study

Stockholm, NJ

#41750 Dec 5, 2013
the latest study has found that the sun is turnig into a ICE-CUBE and planet earth is turning into A SUN
LessHypeMoreFact

Orleans, Canada

#41751 Dec 5, 2013
WARMING EVAPORATES wrote:
People have a right to religious and cult beliefs within reason.
You certainly do. And obviously use it.
WARMING EVAPORATES wrote:
But the warmists have been proved wrong time and again
Your delusions and lack of science are not arguments that work here. Come back when you can prove that CO2 is not a GHG or that the 33C warming of the planet from the Greenhouse Effect is acutally caused by fire giants.

“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#41752 Dec 5, 2013
litesong wrote:
<quoted text>
In early 2000's AGW scientists said Antarctic sea ice would increase...... because of AGW.
so ice is forming due to warming. Talk about "CYA" with the idiotic loons known as warmists.
If it cools.... It's due to warming!
If it warms... It's due to warming!
If it rains...it's due to warming!
If it droughts....it's due to warming!
If there are less hurricanes ... Due to warming!
If more of them.....warming!
..........yeah, you people are the "smart" ones!
Beaaaahaaaaahaa!
Write your thesis someday on your belief system if you ever make it that far, son! Lets see if you're awarded your "deeplooma", asshat!
Lol
heavytune

Seattle, WA

#41753 Dec 5, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
<quoted text>
And you guys have multiple verses....
It's the sun.
It's cosmic rays.
It's natural.
It's water vapor.
It's volcanoes.
It's the PDO.
It's ..........etc.
Meaning, you don't know or you're making excuses.
oh 'caveman', it is the sun, it is volcanoes, it is the PDO, it is natural. it is after all,..the weather. stay warm my friend. the models are wrong, the theory is wrong, the whole idea is wrong. the taxpayers funded grant money was free, the charade was working, the gravytrain as going like hell, dam nature got in the way. who would have thought. if only we could keep the hysteria going, if only we could get one more free taxpayers funded government grant, if only we could get one more chance to prove litesong and bozo right. we should not have to skate across the atlantic to watch the queen knight them, they were to be brought out by the prince with there hands down his pants. a growing custom among global warming believers. religion aside, we must stop global cooling, completely caused by man. not even a comet can go around the almost shut off sun anymore because of mans influence on the weather. please pay for your sins. we are almost out of free taxpayers money. we might not be able to go to next years big (party) meeting on global warming caused by man.
Mothra

United States

#41754 Dec 5, 2013
LessHypeMoreFact wrote:
<quoted text>
Superman he is not. And you could criticize him for not backing out the extension of presidential powers that Bush made (to override a Democrat House) which he has kept to help him against a Republican House. But he is at least working on solutions, not whinging and deciding to be a problem like the right wing.
Hmmm... no admission of an error to your claim.

Typical of warmists.
Mothra

United States

#41755 Dec 5, 2013
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>so ice is forming due to warming. Talk about "CYA" with the idiotic loons known as warmists.
If it cools.... It's due to warming!
If it warms... It's due to warming!
If it rains...it's due to warming!
If it droughts....it's due to warming!
If there are less hurricanes ... Due to warming!
If more of them.....warming!
..........yeah, you people are the "smart" ones!
Beaaaahaaaaahaa!
Write your thesis someday on your belief system if you ever make it that far, son! Lets see if you're awarded your "deeplooma", asshat!
Lol
'God works in mysterious ways.'

So does global warming.
Fun Facts

Huntsville, AL

#41756 Dec 5, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
<quoted text>
And you guys have multiple verses....
It's the sun.
It's cosmic rays.
It's natural.
It's water vapor.
It's volcanoes.
It's the PDO.
It's ..........etc.
Finally, you got it, it's all those things, and more.
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#41757 Dec 5, 2013
Fun Facts wrote:
<quoted text>
Finally, you got it, it's all those things, and more.
The problem being, the verses you sing can't be proven.

Or can they? I suppose you can prove "it's all those things, and more"?

Sorry, chump, the facts are against you.
No Warming

Athens, OH

#41758 Dec 5, 2013
Chump ? The scientists and engineers on this forum certainly are a touchy bunch. And with the vocabulary of an elementary school graduate ... hmmm. Where's litesong ?
litesong

Everett, WA

#41759 Dec 5, 2013
[QUOTE who="no, I'm swarmy"]an elementary school graduate.....[/QUOTE]

You never got a hi skule DEE-plooomaa with science, chemistry, astronomy, physics, algebra, or pre-calc.
litesong

Everett, WA

#41760 Dec 5, 2013
No Warming wrote:
a touchy bunch......
You never touched homework for a hi skule DEE-plooomaa with science, chemistry, astronomy, physics, algebra, or pre-calc.

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#41761 Dec 5, 2013
fun farts wrote:
<quoted text>
Finally, you got it, it's all those things, and more.
Thing is, those factors can be *measured*:

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/paleo/globalwarming/...

And it's an observational fact that they're not causing the modern warming.

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#41762 Dec 6, 2013
There are no experimental tests of climate change mitigation, no observations of demonstrations that change global climate.

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