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There are 63620 comments on the Newsday story from Dec 14, 2008, titled Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt.... In it, Newsday reports that:

When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, global warming was a slow-moving environmental problem that was easy to ignore.

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gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#41723 Dec 4, 2013
Anti Christq wrote:
<quoted text>
Failing to offer even one example followed by logic and reason does little to legitimize your claims. On the other hand I CAN offer examples to back up my statements:
You are a PHUCKIN PERVERT who lurks on these sights to molest unsuspecting people like Kristen.
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/global-warmin...
<quoted text>
You are a piece of southern trash that deserves nothing less than to burn in your own fantasy creation of GW He'll.
You are one sick Hillbilly so do us all a favor and improve the human race.
I usually get these kinds of responses after I've made a complete fool out of someone. Seems it's happened to you.

I'll be somewhat more polite and say that I handed her/him his/her head on a plate.

You seem to have a real hard-on for me. Is it because I screwed your little butthole brain and it hurt?

In future, if you would like to avoid these kinds of intimate encounters, may I suggest that you check your facts and come armed with real evidence. Otherwise, darling, it's just going to happen again, me on top, tearing your ass up.

If you can't stand the heat, or, if you are not equipped with enough brainpower, then stay the hell away from this thread.

Sweetheart.
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#41724 Dec 4, 2013
Anti Christq wrote:
<quoted text>
Failing to offer even one example followed by logic and reason does little to legitimize your claims. On the other hand I CAN offer examples to back up my statements:
You are a PHUCKIN PERVERT who lurks on these sights to molest unsuspecting people like Kristen.
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/global-warmin...
<quoted text>
You are a piece of southern trash that deserves nothing less than to burn in your own fantasy creation of GW He'll.
You are one sick Hillbilly so do us all a favor and improve the human race.
Far from being an innocent and unsuspecting victim of my biting wit and keen perception, Kristy jumped into this fight as a pugnacious, deceptive denier who thought he/she was so smart that no one would notice a difference in two graphs showing two different things labeled with two different titles, only to be savagely smacked down for trying to perpetrate a lie on people who were obviously smarter than him/her.

Are you Kristy? Or is it your little sister?

Whut us hillbillies down heah in Misippi say is, if you cain't run with the big dawgs, stay on the porch.
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#41725 Dec 4, 2013
B as in B S as in S wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL... First a pervert, always a pervert, and now a STRAWMAN. One would do well if one could read.
I repeat:
"Summary: CAGW is linked to a typhoon season in which a single severe storm made landfall."
You have no argument.

Even IF ONLY ONE severe storm made LANDFALL, would that mean that the other dozen severe storms DID NOT EXIST?

Summary: IDIOT!

“no one told me”

Since: Dec 07

Denver

#41726 Dec 4, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>Do you always do your #2 first?
Answer: Yes, you do because you learn science from science denier blogs.. LOL.
P.S. Wake up. You are using stale denier material..
enjoying the record cold, dumbrowski?

“no one told me”

Since: Dec 07

Denver

#41727 Dec 4, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
WASHINGTON -- Climatic changes -- and the results of those changes -- could occur within decades or even sooner, and they are becoming a greater concern for scientists, according to a new paper from the National Academy of Sciences.
"The most challenging changes are the abrupt ones," said James White, a professor of geological sciences at the University of Colorado in Boulder and chair of the report committee. White and several coauthors of the paper spoke at a press conference Tuesday morning.
The paper focuses on those impacts due to climate change that can happen most quickly. Among these are the rapid decline in Arctic sea ice that scientists have seen in the last decade and increased extinction pressure on plants and animals caused by the rapidly warming climate.
Many such changes, according to Tony Barnosky, a professor in the Department of Integrative Biology at the University of California, Berkeley, are "things that people in this room will be around to see." He emphasized that scientists are "really worried about what's going to happen in the next several years or decades."
"The planet is going to be warmer than most species living on Earth today have seen it, including humans," said Barnosky. "The pace of change is orders of magnitude higher than what species have experienced in the last tens of millions of years."
<><><>< ><><><> <><><>< ><>
Deniers are liars.
Deniers are traitors.
Deniers are death-lovers.
are these the same idiots who predicted a bad hurricane season this year?

thought so.

“no one told me”

Since: Dec 07

Denver

#41728 Dec 4, 2013
Mothra wrote:
<quoted text>
The 'income divide' has gotten worse under Obama.
>>But what Obama conveniently leaves out of his sermons is that income inequality has grown faster on his watch than any time in the past two decades, at least.
Research by University of California economist Emmanuel Saez shows that since the Obama recovery started in June 2009, the average income of the top 1% grew 11.2% in real terms through 2011.
The bottom 99%, in contrast, saw their incomes shrink by 0.4%.
As a result, 121% of the gains in real income during Obama's recovery have gone to the top 1%. By comparison, the top 1% captured 65% of income gains during the Bush expansion of 2002-07, and 45% of the gains under Clinton's expansion in the 1990s.
The Census Bureau's official measure of income inequality — called the Gini index — shows similar results. During the Bush years, the index was flat overall — finishing in 2008 exactly where it started in 2001.
It's gone up each year since Obama has been president and now stands at all-time highs.
It's worth underscoring that the growing income gap under Obama isn't the result of the rich getting fabulously richer. Nor is it any sort of indictment of "trickle down" economics.
Instead, it is the direct result of Obama's historically weak economic recovery, which has left the rest of the country falling behind while the wealthy have managed to make gains.
Census data show, for example, that the poorest 20% of families saw their real average income continue to fall each year from 2009 to 2011 — the last year for which the Census has data — while the top 20% recouped losses suffered in the recession.
Read More At Investor's Business Daily: http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/0730...
d'Oh!
good news:
Less than 30% of millennials will sign up for Obamacare, survey says
A poll from Harvard University finds less than a third of uninsured consumers in the 18-29 age group plan to sign up for Obamacare.
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Hopefully the little dummies will remember for the 2014 elections
Jenks

United States

#41729 Dec 4, 2013

Arctic scientist in global warming row retires as part of settlement with government

Published December 04, 2013/
FoxNews.com

An Alaska scientist who gained fame in 2011 due to his observations of drowned polar bears, findings that helped galvanize the global warming movement, has retired as part of a settlement with a federal agency.

Charles Monnett was briefly suspended in 2011 from his work with the U.S. Bureau of Ocean Energy Management, Regulation and Enforcement — now known as the Bureau of Ocean Energy Management —during an inspector general's investigation into a polar bear research contract he managed. Investigators in their report released last year said the probe was prompted by a complaint from an Interior Department employee who alleged that Monnett had wrongfully released government records and he and another scientist intentionally omitted or used false data in an article on polar bears.

The agency, BOEM, ultimately found no evidence of scientific misconduct but reprimanded Monnett for improper release of emails that an Interior Department official said were cited by a federal appeals court in decisions to vacate agency approval of an oil and gas company's Arctic exploration plan.

While Monnett returned to work, his prior research portfolio, which was focused on Arctic issues, had been reassigned, said Jeff Ruch, executive director of the watchdog group Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility, which helped Monnett with his case. Monnett filed a complaint, seeking to have the reprimand rescinded, to have his name restored to an award for a bowhead whale tracking project and the ability to transfer jobs, a request that the complaint said had not been granted.

Under the settlement, signed in October but released by Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility on Wednesday, Monnett will receive $100,000 but cannot seek Interior Department work for five years. His retirement was effective Nov. 15, at which point the agency agreed to withdraw the letter of reprimand and issue Monnett a certificate for his work on the tracking project.

The settlement makes clear that it does not constitute any admission of liability, including any admission that federal employees "treated Monnett in a discriminatory or retaliatory manner." BOEM spokeswoman Connie Gillette said by email that she could not comment on personnel matters but said sound science is the foundation of BOEM's decision-making and the agency takes the integrity of its scientists and reliability of their work very seriously.

Monnett, in a release, said the agency tried to silence and discredit him "and send a chilling message to other scientists at a key time when permits for oil and gas exploration in the Arctic were being considered. They failed on the first two goals, but I believe that what they did to me did make others afraid to speak up, even internally."

He said he could not, in good conscience, "work for an agency that promotes dishonesty, punishes those who actually stand up for scientific integrity, and that cannot tolerate scientific work not pre-shaped to serve its agenda."

Ruch said Monnett, 65, is exploring his future options. He said he left his federal job with a fully vested pension.

In 2004, during an aerial survey of bowhead whales, Monnett and another researcher saw four dead polar bears floating in the water after a storm, observations that were later detailed in a peer-reviewed article. They said they were reporting to the best of their knowledge the first observations of the bears floating dead and presumed drowned while apparently swimming long distances.

They said their findings suggested drowning-related deaths of polar bears may increase in the future if the regression of pack ice or periods of longer open water continues. The observations helped make the polar bear a symbol for the climate change movement.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.
Sam

Gray, KY

#41730 Dec 5, 2013
+++++++GOD NOW APPROVES OF SAME-SEX-MARRIAGE!!!+++++++ God has changed His mind regarding Homosexuality!. God can change His mind on matters if He wants to, there are instances in the Bible where God does just that!. This time is no different. God has certainly been answering the big Gays prayers lately!, with their recent Supreme Court victories and all. God wouldn't answer me, a Straight guy!. You know, I once asked God for a wife, 5 months later, He gave me a wh**e!. I do admit, I did used to blaspheme God a couple years on down before this, but I stopped this. I figured this was the reason God raped me. If God didn't want to give me a wife, Hé sure as Hell didn't have to give me that rotten wh**e!!!. Because God bestowed this evil upon me, my blaspheming Him returned with a vengence!!!. I lay it on old God now and I don't care if I do go burn forever, HAHAHAHAHA!!!. I blaspheme God real good now. I do it more then I ever did and I myself, is a might proud of that fact, HAHAHAHAHA!!!...GIVE ME ANOTHER WH**E GOD!!!!!!!!!.
WARMING EVAPORATES

Dover, OH

#41731 Dec 5, 2013
The 2013 hurricane season just ended as one of the five quietest years since 1960. But don’t expect anyone who pointed to last year’s hurricanes as “proof” of the need to act against global warming to apologize; the warmists don’t work that way.

Warmist claims of a severe increase in hurricane activity go back to 2005 and Hurricane Katrina. The cover of Al Gore’s 2009 book,“Our Choice: A Plan to Solve the Climate Crisis,” even features a satellite image of the globe with four major hurricanes superimposed.

Yet the evidence to the contrary was there all along. Back in 2005 I and others reviewed the entire hurricane record, which goes back over a century, and found no increase of any kind. Yes, we sometimes get bad storms — but no more frequently now than in the past. The advocates simply ignored that evidence — then repeated their false claims after Hurricane Sandy last year.

And the media play along. For example, it somehow wasn’t front-page news that committed believers in man-made global warming recently admitted there’s been no surface global warming for well over a decade and maybe none for decades more. Nor did we see warmists conceding that their explanation is essentially a confession that the previous warming may not have been man-made at all.

FULL STORY:
http://nypost.com/2013/12/05/global-warming-p...

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#41732 Dec 5, 2013
heavytune wrote:
<quoted text>yea 'bozo' kind of like you telling everyone you can't grow tomatoes because you don't like the weather. good one.
It seems that the truth brings with it the desperation of the deniers. My tomatoes did quite well last summer. The temperature was not such that the tomatoes would not set. I advise that you study the facts about growing tomatoes then perhaps you will do better. Science always trumps.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#41733 Dec 5, 2013
WARMING EVAPORATES wrote:
The 2013 hurricane season just ended as one of the five quietest years since 1960. But don’t expect anyone who pointed to last year’s hurricanes as “proof” of the need to act against global warming to apologize; the warmists don’t work that way.
Warmist claims of a severe increase in hurricane activity go back to 2005 and Hurricane Katrina. The cover of Al Gore’s 2009 book,“Our Choice: A Plan to Solve the Climate Crisis,” even features a satellite image of the globe with four major hurricanes superimposed.
Yet the evidence to the contrary was there all along. Back in 2005 I and others reviewed the entire hurricane record, which goes back over a century, and found no increase of any kind. Yes, we sometimes get bad storms — but no more frequently now than in the past. The advocates simply ignored that evidence — then repeated their false claims after Hurricane Sandy last year.
And the media play along. For example, it somehow wasn’t front-page news that committed believers in man-made global warming recently admitted there’s been no surface global warming for well over a decade and maybe none for decades more. Nor did we see warmists conceding that their explanation is essentially a confession that the previous warming may not have been man-made at all.
FULL STORY:
http://nypost.com/2013/12/05/global-warming-p...
Try getting your facts straight. Here is what the experts have to say;
http://www.gfdl.noaa.gov/global-warming-and-h...
WARMING EVAPORATES

Dover, OH

#41734 Dec 5, 2013
cont.

That admission came in a new paper by prominent warmists in the peer-reviewed journal Climate Dynamics. They not only conceded that average global surface temperatures stopped warming a full 15 years ago, but that this “pause” could extend into the 2030s.
Mind you, the term “pause” is misleading in the extreme: Unless and until it resumes again, it’s just a “stop.” You don’t say a bullet-ridden body “paused” breathing.
Remarkably, that stoppage has practically been a state secret. Just five years ago, the head of the International Panel on Climate Change, the group most associated with “proving” that global warming is man-made and has horrific potential consequences, told Congress that Earth is running a “fever” that’s “apt to get much worse.” Yet he and IPCC knew the warming had stopped a decade earlier.
Those who pointed this out, including yours truly, were labeled “denialists.” Yet the IPCC itself finally admitted the “pause” in its latest report.
The single most damning aspect of the “pause” is that, because it has occurred when “greenhouse gases” have been pouring into the atmosphere at record levels, it shows at the very least that something natural is at play here. The warmists suggest that natural factors have “suppressed” the warming temporarily, but that’s just a guess: The fact is, they have nothing like the understanding of the climate that they claimed (and their many models that all showed future warming mean nothing, since they all used essentially the same false information).

http://nypost.com/2013/12/05/global-warming-p...

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#41735 Dec 5, 2013
WARMING EVAPORATES wrote:
cont.
That admission came in a new paper by prominent warmists in the peer-reviewed journal Climate Dynamics. They not only conceded that average global surface temperatures stopped warming a full 15 years ago, but that this “pause” could extend into the 2030s.
Mind you, the term “pause” is misleading in the extreme: Unless and until it resumes again, it’s just a “stop.” You don’t say a bullet-ridden body “paused” breathing.
Remarkably, that stoppage has practically been a state secret. Just five years ago, the head of the International Panel on Climate Change, the group most associated with “proving” that global warming is man-made and has horrific potential consequences, told Congress that Earth is running a “fever” that’s “apt to get much worse.” Yet he and IPCC knew the warming had stopped a decade earlier.
Those who pointed this out, including yours truly, were labeled “denialists.” Yet the IPCC itself finally admitted the “pause” in its latest report.
The single most damning aspect of the “pause” is that, because it has occurred when “greenhouse gases” have been pouring into the atmosphere at record levels, it shows at the very least that something natural is at play here. The warmists suggest that natural factors have “suppressed” the warming temporarily, but that’s just a guess: The fact is, they have nothing like the understanding of the climate that they claimed (and their many models that all showed future warming mean nothing, since they all used essentially the same false information).
http://nypost.com/2013/12/05/global-warming-p...
I think you got pause mixed up with paws. Yes there are paws. No global warming has not paused. Over 90 percent of the heat gain from global warming is manifested in the oceans. We know this because the ocean levels are rising twice as fast as they did pre 1980. Also much heat is involved in melting ice. 80 times as much is needed to melt one unit of ice with no temperature change as warming that unit one degree C. It is not temperature gain that is the concern, it is the heat content of the Earth. That is increasing as we pour more and more CO2 into the atmosphere by burning fossil fuels.

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#41736 Dec 5, 2013
WARMING EVAPORATES wrote:
The 2013 hurricane season just ended as one of the five quietest years since 1960. But don’t expect anyone who pointed to last year’s hurricanes as “proof” of the need to act against global warming to apologize; the warmists don’t work that way.
Warmist claims of a severe increase in hurricane activity go back to 2005 and Hurricane Katrina. The cover of Al Gore’s 2009 book,“Our Choice: A Plan to Solve the Climate Crisis,” even features a satellite image of the globe with four major hurricanes superimposed.
Yet the evidence to the contrary was there all along. Back in 2005 I and others reviewed the entire hurricane record, which goes back over a century, and found no increase of any kind. Yes, we sometimes get bad storms — but no more frequently now than in the past. The advocates simply ignored that evidence — then repeated their false claims after Hurricane Sandy last year.
And the media play along. For example, it somehow wasn’t front-page news that committed believers in man-made global warming recently admitted there’s been no surface global warming for well over a decade and maybe none for decades more. Nor did we see warmists conceding that their explanation is essentially a confession that the previous warming may not have been man-made at all.
FULL STORY:
http://nypost.com/2013/12/05/global-warming-p...
Sigh.

What a heap of idiots falling over themselves to come up with ever increasing absurdities this thread has become.

No, warming hasn't stopped.

It hasn't paused.

It's not even certain that it has slowed down.

If it has slowed down, it's not enough that we don't need to take action on warming.

And it may have just slowed down a bit in the short term, only to increase again in the long.
Fun Facts

Huntsville, AL

#41737 Dec 5, 2013
WARMING EVAPORATES wrote:
cont.
That admission came in a new paper by prominent warmists in the peer-reviewed journal Climate Dynamics. They not only conceded that average global surface temperatures stopped warming a full 15 years ago, but that this “pause” could extend into the 2030s.
Mind you, the term “pause” is misleading in the extreme: Unless and until it resumes again, it’s just a “stop.” You don’t say a bullet-ridden body “paused” breathing.
Remarkably, that stoppage has practically been a state secret. Just five years ago, the head of the International Panel on Climate Change, the group most associated with “proving” that global warming is man-made and has horrific potential consequences, told Congress that Earth is running a “fever” that’s “apt to get much worse.” Yet he and IPCC knew the warming had stopped a decade earlier.
Those who pointed this out, including yours truly, were labeled “denialists.” Yet the IPCC itself finally admitted the “pause” in its latest report.
The single most damning aspect of the “pause” is that, because it has occurred when “greenhouse gases” have been pouring into the atmosphere at record levels, it shows at the very least that something natural is at play here. The warmists suggest that natural factors have “suppressed” the warming temporarily, but that’s just a guess: The fact is, they have nothing like the understanding of the climate that they claimed (and their many models that all showed future warming mean nothing, since they all used essentially the same false information).
http://nypost.com/2013/12/05/global-warming-p...
Pay no attention to the chorus, they only know one verse.
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#41738 Dec 5, 2013
Fun Facts wrote:
<quoted text>
Pay no attention to the chorus, they only know one verse.
And you guys have multiple verses....

It's the sun.
It's cosmic rays.
It's natural.
It's water vapor.
It's volcanoes.
It's the PDO.
It's ..........etc.

Meaning, you don't know or you're making excuses.
WARMING EVAPORATES

Dover, OH

#41739 Dec 5, 2013
If Ma Nature caused the “pause,” can’t this same lady be responsible for the warming observed earlier? You bet! Fact is, the earth was cooling and warming long before so-called GHGs could have been a factor. A warm spell ushered in the Viking Age, and many scientists believe recent warming was merely a recovery from what’s called “the Little Ice Age” that began around 1300.
Yet none of this unsettles the rush to kill debate. The Los Angeles Times has even announced that it will no longer print letters to the editor questioning man-made global warming. Had the Times been printing before Columbus, perhaps it would have banned letters saying the Earth was round.
Meanwhile, the Obama administration continues to push to reduce supposed global-warming emissions. Last month, the president even signed an executive order establishing a Council on Climate Preparedness and Resilience that could dramatically expand government bureaucrats’ ability to restrict Americans’ use of their property, water and energy to reduce so-called “greenhouse gas emissions.”
Such attempted reductions in other countries have proved incredibly expensive, while barely reducing emissions. But damn the stubbornly weak economy, says President Obama, full speed ahead!

http://nypost.com/2013/12/05/global-warming-p...
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#41740 Dec 5, 2013
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
<quoted text>
Try getting your facts straight. Here is what the experts have to say;
http://www.gfdl.noaa.gov/global-warming-and-h...
LOL. Your NOAA to his New York Post. Science versus right-wing media. No competition except in the minds of fools.
WARMING EVAPORATES

Dover, OH

#41741 Dec 5, 2013
People have a right to religious and cult beliefs within reason. But the warmists have been proved wrong time and again, each time reacting with little more than pictures of forlorn polar bears on ice floes and trying to shut down the opposition.(More bad timing: Arctic ice increased by almost a third this past year, while that at the South Pole was thicker and wider than it’s been in 35 years.)
In war and in science, the bloodiest conflicts always seem to be the religious ones. Time for the American public to say it’s no longer going to play the victim in this one.

Michael Fumento is a journalist and attorney based in Colombia.

http://nypost.com/2013/12/05/global-warming-p...
Democrat mother

Corona Del Mar, CA

#41742 Dec 5, 2013
NEW YORK (AP)— The solar panel installer SolarCity is beginning to address one of solar power's big drawbacks: The sun doesn't always shine.

The solution: big battery packs that will provide backup power while lowering electric bills. The supplier: electric car maker Tesla Motors, whose CEO Elon Musk is also the chairman of SolarCity.

"Our goal is to be an energy provider, to provide all energy services," said SolarCity CEO Lyndon Rive.

The batteries will be offered first to commercial customers because of the way many commercial electric bills are calculated. SolarCity is also conducting a pilot program in California for homeowners, but because residential bills are calculated differently — and the batteries are so expensive — it could be years before batteries make financial sense for homes.

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