Once slow-moving threat, global warmi...

Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt...

There are 63620 comments on the Newsday story from Dec 14, 2008, titled Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt.... In it, Newsday reports that:

When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, global warming was a slow-moving environmental problem that was easy to ignore.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at Newsday.

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#41050 Nov 1, 2013
NYT: Nov 1 2013

Climate change will pose sharp risks to the world’s food supply in coming decades, potentially undermining crop production and driving up prices at a time when the demand for food is expected to soar, scientists have found. In a departure from an earlier assessment, the scientists concluded that rising temperatures will have some beneficial effects on crops in some places, but that globally they will make it harder for crops to thrive — perhaps reducing production over all by as much as 2 percent each decade for the rest of this century, compared with what it would be without climate change.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/02/science/ear...
Jeff

Beckley, WV

#41051 Nov 1, 2013
OzRitz wrote:
NYT: Nov 1 2013
Climate change will pose sharp risks to the world’s food supply in coming decades, potentially undermining crop production and driving up prices at a time when the demand for food is expected to soar, scientists have found. In a departure from an earlier assessment, the scientists concluded that rising temperatures will have some beneficial effects on crops in some places, but that globally they will make it harder for crops to thrive — perhaps reducing production over all by as much as 2 percent each decade for the rest of this century, compared with what it would be without climate change.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/02/science/ear...
A newspaper reports this, while scientist like Columbia University’s George Kukla, Dr. Judith Curry, the chair of the School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences at Georgia Institute of Technology, Professor Cliff Ollier of the School of Earth and Environmental Studies at the University of Western Australia, and others say we are entering a cycle of cooling due to reduced solar activity.
litesong

Everett, WA

#41052 Nov 2, 2013
deaf jeff wrote:
..... I know I am not impressed with.......
...... science & mathematics degrees & science, chemistry, astronomy, physics, algebra & pre-calc in poorly or unearned hi skule DEE-plooomaas.
Retired Farmer

Calvert City, KY

#41053 Nov 2, 2013
Jeff wrote:
<quoted text>
Sure, ok, there litesong, but you still have not or cannot answer a simple question, so I guess education just made you educated, not smart. Why are you not actually doing something about warming instead of just whining? No solar, you did give a fair excuse for that, although I am sure along with your non-existent wind generator, it would go far in showing you stand behind your rhetoric. Drive an electric vehicle? I see Chevy Volt sales have dropped again. WHY? Seems all you warmist would be standing in line for them. Oh, that matter of all talk, little action.
You are assuming that supporting and using green energy means going "off the grid" with your own personal wind generator, solar panel, etc. It does not. The future of green energy will be its use by the public utilities. By your reasoning, no one who does not burn coal directly is using it.
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#41054 Nov 2, 2013
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#41055 Nov 2, 2013
Hottest in the Arctic in quite a while:

http://www.climatecentral.org/news/the-arctic...
Jeff

Beckley, WV

#41056 Nov 2, 2013
litesong wrote:
<quoted text>
...... science & mathematics degrees & science, chemistry, astronomy, physics, algebra & pre-calc in poorly or unearned hi skule DEE-plooomaas.
And you still are incapable of answering simple questions. Degrees do not equate intelligence.
Jason

United States

#41057 Nov 2, 2013
Jeff wrote:
<quoted text>
And you still are incapable of answering simple questions. Degrees do not equate intelligence.
I refer to them as educated idiots. They have degrees but don't have the ability to apply them in a real setting. They spout ad nauseam what their progressive socialist professors told them is true. They don't have critical thinking skills so they can apply what knowledge they have that's correct to amplify their ability to understand applications of science, mathematics to reach a conclusion.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#41058 Nov 2, 2013
Jason wrote:
<quoted text>
I refer to them as educated idiots. They have degrees but don't have the ability to apply them in a real setting. They spout ad nauseam what their progressive socialist professors told them is true. They don't have critical thinking skills so they can apply what knowledge they have that's correct to amplify their ability to understand applications of science, mathematics to reach a conclusion.
How does an educated idiot compare with an uneducated idiot? I would guess the uneducatged one would be more dangerous.......

I assume that you are uneducated, so how do you know that all those professors are socialists? Did Limbaugh or Beck tell you?
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#41059 Nov 2, 2013
Jason wrote:
<quoted text>
I refer to them as educated idiots. They have degrees but don't have the ability to apply them in a real setting. They spout ad nauseam what their progressive socialist professors told them is true. They don't have critical thinking skills so they can apply what knowledge they have that's correct to amplify their ability to understand applications of science, mathematics to reach a conclusion.
LOL. You certaily amplify what little you know .. to reach no conclusion..

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#41060 Nov 2, 2013
Retired Farmer wrote:
You are assuming that supporting and using green energy means going "off the grid" with your own personal wind generator, solar panel, etc. It does not. The future of green energy will be its use by the public utilities. By your reasoning, no one who does not burn coal directly is using it.
That means more expensive energy. The plan is to tax energy, especially from fossil fuel. I oppose climate change mitigation by taxing energy users and producers; if climate can be fixed with taxes it isn't broken.

If a company wants to use green energy, fine. Forcing taxpayers to support your billionaire crony pals with subsidies, government insured loans, buyouts, bailouts or executive mandate is wrong.

Congress has never authorized carbon limits or taxes. The courts might not like it, but the executive branch has no authority to regulate CO2 production.
Jason

United States

#41061 Nov 2, 2013
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
<quoted text>
How does an educated idiot compare with an uneducated idiot? I would guess the uneducatged one would be more dangerous.......
I assume that you are uneducated, so how do you know that all those professors are socialists? Did Limbaugh or Beck tell you?
Idiots are idiots period. What is uneducatged?

Assume and you would be wrong...again! To proclaim that higher education doesn't have progressive socialist professors is to willfully lie. I won't do that. Is every higher education professor a socialist? The answer is no but the majority of universities are slanted liberal.

Did Mr. Ed of MSNBC give you your talking points?
Jason

United States

#41062 Nov 2, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>LOL. You certaily amplify what little you know .. to reach no conclusion..
Little slow aren't you. The conclusion is self explanatory... education without the ability to apply in a meaningful way is nothing more than a waste of time, energy and money.

“no one told me”

Since: Dec 07

Denver

#41063 Nov 2, 2013
litesong wrote:
<quoted text>
First, "deaf jeff", without science & mathematics degrees, & no science, chemistry, astronomy, physics, algebra or pre-calc for its poorly or unearned hi skule DEE-plooomaa, egotistically thinks it is smarter than climate scientists with 10 to 16 years more mathematics & science education than it has.
Second, without science & mathematics degrees, & no science, chemistry, astronomy, physics, algebra or pre-calc for its poorly or unearned hi skule DEE-plooomaa, "deaf jeff" believes it is a teacher & deserves answers. Of course, "deaf jeff" doesn't deserve answers because......."deaf jeff" has no science & mathematics degrees, & no science, chemistry, astronomy, physics, algebra or pre-calc for its poorly or unearned hi skule DEE-plooomaa.
Clearly some of these "scientists" have just used their extensive educations to lie better and sucker in dupes like you..
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#41064 Nov 2, 2013
Hey Mutt and Jeff! What's your answer to this? You think you're smarter than all the people in the governments of these four cities?

"Cities and states have been ramping up climate preparation efforts in the wake of Superstorm Sandy and other extreme weather events. Boston is considering making it mandatory for developers to fill out a climate resilience checklist before they construct large new buildings, and New York City, Houston and Los Angeles are also implementing climate resiliency plans. With the president’s new executive order, the hope is that more cities and states will begin taking climate preparation seriously."

This is real-time. People are taking action because the problem is real.
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#41066 Nov 2, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>That means more expensive energy. The plan is to tax energy, especially from fossil fuel. I oppose climate change mitigation by taxing energy users and producers; if climate can be fixed with taxes it isn't broken.
If a company wants to use green energy, fine. Forcing taxpayers to support your billionaire crony pals with subsidies, government insured loans, buyouts, bailouts or executive mandate is wrong.
Congress has never authorized carbon limits or taxes. The courts might not like it, but the executive branch has no authority to regulate CO2 production.
More expensive energy? Have you seen get it any cheaper over the past 40 years?

The energy companies are where your billionaire crony pals get their subsidies, government insured loans, buyouts, and bailouts, with protection from the best Congress money can buy. The Kemper County coal plant is the most recent example of this, as I have noted here.

The EPA and the President have to act, because Congress won't.

You just show again that you are a complete idiot and that I am not. This is where we differ.
Michael

United States

#41067 Nov 2, 2013
Plain Jane wrote:
For the non-readers here, global warming causes extreme weather. It gets hotter in some places and much colder in others. The Gulf stream is slowing due to the cold fresh water being dumped by glacier melt and we are losing it's warming effects on the eastern seaboard of the US and the west coasts of Britain and Europe. Scoff all you like. You are only showing your complete lack of literacy on the issue.
does anyone really beleave this nonsense
Michael

United States

#41068 Nov 2, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
Hey Mutt and Jeff! What's your answer to this? You think you're smarter than all the people in the governments of these four cities?
"Cities and states have been ramping up climate preparation efforts in the wake of Superstorm Sandy and other extreme weather events. Boston is considering making it mandatory for developers to fill out a climate resilience checklist before they construct large new buildings, and New York City, Houston and Los Angeles are also implementing climate resiliency plans. With the presidents new executive order, the hope is that more cities and states will begin taking climate preparation seriously."
This is real-time. People are taking action because the problem is real.
they are taking action because they Make Money...period. They could care less about anything else. Grow up
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#41069 Nov 2, 2013
Jason wrote:
<quoted text>
Little slow aren't you. The conclusion is self explanatory... education without the ability to apply in a meaningful way is nothing more than a waste of time, energy and money.
WOW.. if you could harness all your negative energy, you could be a pioneer in expanding a worm hole..

Take your time for comprehension..
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#41070 Nov 2, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>That means more expensive energy. The plan is to tax energy, especially from fossil fuel. I oppose climate change mitigation by taxing energy users and producers; if climate can be fixed with taxes it isn't broken.
If a company wants to use green energy, fine. Forcing taxpayers to support your billionaire crony pals with subsidies, government insured loans, buyouts, bailouts or executive mandate is wrong.
Congress has never authorized carbon limits or taxes. The courts might not like it, but the executive branch has no authority to regulate CO2 production.
I am floored that I totally agree with you on this: I also oppose climate change mitigation by taxing energy users.

I didn't ask for this. YOU told me it was OK to use fossil fuels, from the very beginning, and we didn't know at first how bad they could be. But all this time YOU, brain-dead representative of your now-evil multinationals, have gotten the profits without cleaning up your mess. Getting the pussy without taking out the trash. And you could even be forgiven for that, but not for the way you are acting now.

YOU should join in transitioning cause you're going to run out anyway; and soon, if we're in a bubble.

YOU should clean up your mess. And YOU should pay for it!

This is where we differ.

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Chicago Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
News Barack Obama, our next President (Nov '08) 1 min sonicfilter 1,521,637
News BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting... (Jan '09) 1 hr Coffee Party 240,324
quality Novelty IDs 2 hr Lasen 1
News Israeli troops begin Gaza pullout as Hamas decl... (Jan '09) 11 hr TRD 71,284
News Chicago Restaurants Rally Against Trump Immigra... 12 hr Defeat Nancy Pelosi 7
Obumbler Back To Community Organizing 13 hr Defeat Nancy Pelosi 4
News Scenes from Saturday's March for Science 16 hr Trump is the man 1

Chicago Jobs

More from around the web

Personal Finance

Chicago Mortgages