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There are 62935 comments on the Newsday story from Dec 14, 2008, titled Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt.... In it, Newsday reports that:

When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, global warming was a slow-moving environmental problem that was easy to ignore.

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dont drink the koolaid

Eden Prairie, MN

#40017 Sep 30, 2013
LessHypeMoreFact wrote:
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The theory is AGW. Or are you stupid?
Does anyone have a link to an AGW theory or two... or three? A link to the hypothesis that the theory is based on would ALSO be appreciated.
litesong

Everett, WA

#40018 Sep 30, 2013
[QUOTE who="lyin' brian BSer"]I call the models B.S.........[QUOTE]

....... says "lyin' brian BSer", who has no science, chemistry, astronomy, physics, algebra or pre-calc for its proudly held, but poorly earned hi skule DEE-plooomaa, & errors of 1 million TIMES, 1000 TIMES, 3000 TIMES, 73 million TIMES, & 2.5+ trillion TIMES, & is a slimy steenking filthy vile reprobate rooting(& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AND 4 time alleged & 4time proud threatener.
Mothra

United States

#40020 Sep 30, 2013
Sunny wrote:
<quoted text>Space said Lucky us to move on to ACTION.
Does that mean you're moving past all the propaganda an moving onto the battle field?LMAO
Doubt it.

None of these warmists will even point out the hypocrisy of their biggest advocates (celebrities and politicians) as to their own carbon footprints. One would think that that would be such a tiny admission, but they all clam up and change the subject.

And don't dare question them as to their own CO2 with their incessant posts of global warming propaganda and irrelevant factoids.

They'd have to admit their own hypocrisy.

Which lends to the argument that if the 'experts' and spokesmen of the experts are so cavalier with their CO2 creation, then why should Joe Sixpack take it seriously?

If it's the same planet, why target some carbon producers, but not others?

Every little bit helps? Isn't that what they say?... of others, that is.

Sounds more and more like a phony crisis with each post they make. But they're too 'devoted' to see that.
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#40022 Sep 30, 2013
Only an anti-government tea-party-type denier (who can't tell the difference between two different graphs) would blame the government for coastal development.

As if beautiful sunrises and sunsets over the ocean had nothing to do with it. As if swimming weren't a favorite human pastime. As if there was never a desire to live close to a place with surfing and sailing and fishing and sunbathing. As if international trade wouldn't utilize anchorages for commerce.

Like New York City and San Francisco developed because of government subsidies. Like the shrimping and oystering industries in Louisiana could exist if the fishermen had to live 150 miles from the coast.

As if coastal development wasn't 500 years old in the USA and thousands of years old in the rest of the world.

As if private insurance companies were scrambling all over each other to write policies so that they could lose money.

Government subsidies contributed to the building of million dollar homes and some hotels on coasts but that's what Congress was paid to do by their rich contributors. Why do you think some in Congress (Republicunts maybe) oppose the flood insurance premium rate increases now?

Some anti-government teabaggers seem to be in favor of shutting Florida down and killing the fishing industries of Texas and Louisiana.

Why would a denier from Florida, who can't read a graph and only lives a few dozen feet above sea level, favor the loss of flood insurance while calling his neighbors stupid for living there? Why would someone who lives where there are visitors like Charley, Francis, Jeanne, and Fay call his neighbors stupid? Would a denier who lived there ever wonder why the chicken crosses the road?
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#40023 Sep 30, 2013
How insulated from reality must one be to believe that no one visits the polar regions?

How stupid must one be to believe that everyone sleeps at night?

How ignorant of science must a person be not to have heard of research ships and robot buoys?

As unrealistic, stupid, and ignorant as a person named, oh, say, Brian!
Mothra

United States

#40024 Sep 30, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
Only an anti-government tea-party-type denier (who can't tell the difference between two different graphs) would blame the government for coastal development.
As if beautiful sunrises and sunsets over the ocean had nothing to do with it. As if swimming weren't a favorite human pastime. As if there was never a desire to live close to a place with surfing and sailing and fishing and sunbathing. As if international trade wouldn't utilize anchorages for commerce.
Like New York City and San Francisco developed because of government subsidies. Like the shrimping and oystering industries in Louisiana could exist if the fishermen had to live 150 miles from the coast.
As if coastal development wasn't 500 years old in the USA and thousands of years old in the rest of the world.
As if private insurance companies were scrambling all over each other to write policies so that they could lose money.
Government subsidies contributed to the building of million dollar homes and some hotels on coasts but that's what Congress was paid to do by their rich contributors. Why do you think some in Congress (Republicunts maybe) oppose the flood insurance premium rate increases now?
Some anti-government teabaggers seem to be in favor of shutting Florida down and killing the fishing industries of Texas and Louisiana.
Why would a denier from Florida, who can't read a graph and only lives a few dozen feet above sea level, favor the loss of flood insurance while calling his neighbors stupid for living there? Why would someone who lives where there are visitors like Charley, Francis, Jeanne, and Fay call his neighbors stupid? Would a denier who lived there ever wonder why the chicken crosses the road?
Huh? What are... or what? Huh?

Are you low on your CO2 emissions for the day?

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#40025 Sep 30, 2013
kristy wrote:
<quoted text>
Oz loves China. He needs to get a T-shirt that says Oz hearts China.
Do you want the German example instead ? If it wasn't for American Tea Party'rs the US would be far further advanced in recovery from the GFC. They have issues with breathing, let alone running a government. Home grown American Taliban that seems more of an appropriate label than tea party. Which is a lot more destructive than anything the Chinese or anyone else is doing for that matter.
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#40026 Sep 30, 2013
Huh? What?

It is unfortunate that some people cannot make logical connections.

It is also unfortunate that some do not know how to use a handy little tool called Google.

And it's really sad to know of people who have no sense of humor.

“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#40027 Sep 30, 2013
I think climate change alarmists are here for the political motivation. They don't seem to grasp the scientific theory-observational data connection.
They also seem to promote the anti American UN agenda. In fact, I wonder how many people in that crowd on this forum have honest ISP's?

“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#40028 Sep 30, 2013
I'm building a data base of my own. It will be fun when my observations are revealed. Climate change is pseudo science at its worst. Get ready to be astounded!

LOL

“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#40029 Sep 30, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
Huh? What?
It is unfortunate that some people cannot make logical connections.
It is also unfortunate that some do not know how to use a handy little tool called Google.
BINGO, son!!!!!!

some people can't make a rational connection between actual observations vs. the corrupt IPCC 'consensus'.(btw....consensus has nothing to do with science)

IF ONLY THOSE DOLTS WOULD........google the real science and also research just how corrupt the UN and the IPCC actually is....then maybe they would act like respectable and honorable citizens. But....I don't think many alarmists are really US citizens anyway.
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#40030 Sep 30, 2013
When the leaders of the scientific movement against climate change travel, it is hoped that their message produces reductions in emissions equal to or greater than the emissions they produce. Therefore, their carbon footprint is the cost of education, and is not considered important.

It is considered important, however, by desperate denialists searching for any excuse to denigrate the efforts of these committed individuals. They see hypocrisy where there is none and accuse supporters of it without proof of what those supporters are doing.

Therefore, this red herring is a big stinking pile of rotted fish that means absolutely nothing.

But a desperate denier will continue to harp on the subject because he has nothing else with which to wage this war to which he is so devoted. He has no argument; he has no science on his side. What else would you expect of desperation?

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#40031 Sep 30, 2013
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
I think climate change alarmists are here for the political motivation. They don't seem to grasp the scientific theory-observational data connection.
They also seem to promote the anti American UN agenda. In fact, I wonder how many people in that crowd on this forum have honest ISP's?
Here we go, if nothing else to offer the ole "UN commie plot" comes out. Can you enlighten us on who will be the winners and losers in emission regulations. All I can see is Green Tech being the winner and a whole new economy springing from it. The losers well, I guess the fossil fuel industry. But how does that equate to an anti American agenda when all of the most prominent anti American countries are oil producers. Also America's biggest competitors are the highest emitters, so go figure. You think its a UN plot designed to hurt the US. Please give me a break!
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#40032 Sep 30, 2013
How could one build a database that had no data in it?

Maybe the plan is to substitute plastic or wood for the data.
LessHypeMoreFact

Etobicoke, Canada

#40033 Sep 30, 2013
OzRitz wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you want the German example instead ? If it wasn't for American Tea Party'rs the US would be far further advanced in recovery from the GFC. They have issues with breathing, let alone running a government. Home grown American Taliban that seems more of an appropriate label than tea party. Which is a lot more destructive than anything the Chinese or anyone else is doing for that matter.
I would agree that the current problem is due to the Republican/Tea Party. The fact is that the House (dominated by the Republicans) as well as the Senate passed the bill. It has already passed the 'test' of getting Congressional approval.

To now hold the country hostage to try to kill it financially is tantamount to a coup. And it certainly indicates that the right wing political scene doesn't understand the concept of Government where votes passed are done and then you move on and do the next thing. And there are a LOT of next things pending.
Mothra

United States

#40034 Sep 30, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
When the leaders of the scientific movement against climate change travel, it is hoped that their message produces reductions in emissions equal to or greater than the emissions they produce. Therefore, their carbon footprint is the cost of education, and is not considered important.
It is considered important, however, by desperate denialists searching for any excuse to denigrate the efforts of these committed individuals. They see hypocrisy where there is none and accuse supporters of it without proof of what those supporters are doing.
Therefore, this red herring is a big stinking pile of rotted fish that means absolutely nothing.
But a desperate denier will continue to harp on the subject because he has nothing else with which to wage this war to which he is so devoted. He has no argument; he has no science on his side. What else would you expect of desperation?
LOL

Your 'red herring' claim is the red herring. You expect me to 'sniff and follow' your little screed?

Nope.

But do tell us of all those emissions they create and the corresponding offsets.

But I notice, not a peep on the non-science advocates and politicians that say they believe in the crisis, but don't act as if there is one.
LessHypeMoreFact

Etobicoke, Canada

#40035 Sep 30, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
When the leaders of the scientific movement against climate change travel, it is hoped that their message produces reductions in emissions equal to or greater than the emissions they produce. Therefore, their carbon footprint is the cost of education, and is not considered important.
In either case, the thing is that reducing the carbon footprint is NOT demanded as a 'return to the cave' and those who demand that the ones fighting for action should live in caves to prove their 'commitment' would not be impressed if they did anyway. More of a 'do as you say, not as I do'... In other words, just an excuse to continue wasting and denying.
Mothra

United States

#40036 Sep 30, 2013
OzRitz wrote:
<quoted text>
Here we go, if nothing else to offer the ole "UN commie plot" comes out. Can you enlighten us on who will be the winners and losers in emission regulations. All I can see is Green Tech being the winner and a whole new economy springing from it. The losers well, I guess the fossil fuel industry. But how does that equate to an anti American agenda when all of the most prominent anti American countries are oil producers. Also America's biggest competitors are the highest emitters, so go figure. You think its a UN plot designed to hurt the US. Please give me a break!
The winners today? Al Gore, for one.

The losers? Everyone paying higher prices for energy.
Mothra

United States

#40037 Sep 30, 2013
LessHypeMoreFact wrote:
<quoted text>
In either case, the thing is that reducing the carbon footprint is NOT demanded as a 'return to the cave' and those who demand that the ones fighting for action should live in caves to prove their 'commitment' would not be impressed if they did anyway. More of a 'do as you say, not as I do'... In other words, just an excuse to continue wasting and denying.
Actually, it's the most vocal that should be leading by example.

But they're not.

Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.
Mothra

United States

#40038 Sep 30, 2013
LessHypeMoreFact wrote:
<quoted text>
I would agree that the current problem is due to the Republican/Tea Party. The fact is that the House (dominated by the Republicans) as well as the Senate passed the bill. It has already passed the 'test' of getting Congressional approval.
To now hold the country hostage to try to kill it financially is tantamount to a coup. And it certainly indicates that the right wing political scene doesn't understand the concept of Government where votes passed are done and then you move on and do the next thing. And there are a LOT of next things pending.
Section 7.

All bills for raising revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with amendments as on other Bills.

The Senate overstepped their authority by creating a revenue bill.

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