Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt...

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When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, global warming was a slow-moving environmental problem that was easy to ignore.

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So... "everyone" gets a pass on not acting like it's a crisis today?
No.
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I think I understand now. You only report secondhand Fox news bias.
Nope, wrong again.

You've picked out Fox News as your favorite boogie man.

Get over it.
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No.
Really?

So when will the warmists go after the biggest global warming hypocrites?

It would seem that if you're really trying to promote the 'science' then those hypocrites should be getting the bucket-loads of criticism, protests and demands.

Instead, all we see are warmists arguing with skeptics.

Like I've said before, when everyone promoting the theory starts acting like it's really the crisis they claim, then the theory gains credibility.

But until you challenge the hypocrites, then it doesn't really seem to be the "crisis" warmists say it is.
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A drought across Texas and Oklahoma has made food and water scarce for cattle, which has kept herds small. The Department of Agriculture says there are 91 million cattle nationally, the smallest herd since 1952. Add to that the rising cost of feed and rising beef exports, and the price of beef in the states is surging.
“Your customers get tired of hearing every week that it’s going up,” said Andrew Hurford, manager of Kissin Fresh Meats.“Sooner or later, they’re going to reach a tolerance ceiling and they’re going to say maybe it’s not worth it anymore.”
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It's going to be a crisis for a lot of people when they can't afford beef anymore.

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It's going to be a crisis for a lot of people when barley and corn yields are reduced by climate change extremes and the price of whiskey skyrockets.
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Apparently, it's a crisi among brewers now:

Like coffee and chocolate, beer is one of the common pleasures of life being damaged now by global warming. Good beer depends on water, barley, and hops — all of which are being disrupted by greenhouse pollution from burning fossil fuels. Jenn Orgolini, sustainability director for Colorado’s New Belgium Brewery, the third-largest craft brewing company in the United States, warns that climate change is hurting beer quality today:

This is not a problem that’s going to happen someday, and this is not a problem that’s just going to impact some industries. If you drink beer now, the issue of climate change is impacting you right now.

“For our brewery, growth depends on abundant clean water and quality barley and hops—and climate change puts those ingredients at risk. Our supply chain—including barley, hops and water—is especially vulnerable to weather in the short-term and to climate change in the long-term,” Orgolini told Forbes.

Heavy rains in Australia and drought in England have hurt malting barley crops this year.

Climate change has caused the quality and yield of Saaz hops — the key ingredient in Czech pilsner lager — to decline. Global warming pollution will cause further declines, scientists found in 2009. Yields of malting barley will also decline in coming years as droughts increase because of carbon pollution.

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If brewers are concerned, those of us who enjoy a cold beer should be too.
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A drought across Texas and Oklahoma has made food and water scarce for cattle, which has kept herds small. The Department of Agriculture says there are 91 million cattle nationally, the smallest herd since 1952. Add to that the rising cost of feed and rising beef exports, and the price of beef in the states is surging.
“Your customers get tired of hearing every week that it’s going up,” said Andrew Hurford, manager of Kissin Fresh Meats.“Sooner or later, they’re going to reach a tolerance ceiling and they’re going to say maybe it’s not worth it anymore.”
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It's going to be a crisis for a lot of people when they can't afford beef anymore.
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It's going to be a crisis for a lot of people when barley and corn yields are reduced by climate change extremes and the price of whiskey skyrockets.
If the government didn't give subsidies for biofuels that made growing crops for fuel more lucrative than crops for food and feed then there would be more supply for food and feed.
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add "Crisis averted" to my previous post.
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Apparently, it's a crisi among brewers now:
Like coffee and chocolate, beer is one of the common pleasures of life being damaged now by global warming. Good beer depends on water, barley, and hops — all of which are being disrupted by greenhouse pollution from burning fossil fuels. Jenn Orgolini, sustainability director for Colorado’s New Belgium Brewery, the third-largest craft brewing company in the United States, warns that climate change is hurting beer quality today:
This is not a problem that’s going to happen someday, and this is not a problem that’s just going to impact some industries. If you drink beer now, the issue of climate change is impacting you right now.
“For our brewery, growth depends on abundant clean water and quality barley and hops—and climate change puts those ingredients at risk. Our supply chain—including barley, hops and water—is especially vulnerable to weather in the short-term and to climate change in the long-term,” Orgolini told Forbes.
Heavy rains in Australia and drought in England have hurt malting barley crops this year.
Climate change has caused the quality and yield of Saaz hops — the key ingredient in Czech pilsner lager — to decline. Global warming pollution will cause further declines, scientists found in 2009. Yields of malting barley will also decline in coming years as droughts increase because of carbon pollution.
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If brewers are concerned, those of us who enjoy a cold beer should be too.
Once again, using crops for fuel reduces available crops for food.

This is truly a man-made 'crisis'.
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I think I understand now. You only report secondhand Fox news bias.
Ditto.

Thus a secondhand liar.. LOL

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So... "everyone" gets a pass on not acting like it's a crisis today?
For the first time in history, people shouting “the end is nigh” are somehow the sane ones, while those who say it is not are now the lunatics.
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add "Crisis averted" to my previous post.
Do that to climate change.
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<quoted text>You are still yelling because you are WRONG.
Read your own link:
Michael Mann even twitted, "IPCC certificate acknowledging me "contributing to award of the Nobel Peace Prize". Do they want my birth certif too?" It would appear the answer is yes.
Why are you a neme caller? Because you are a liar. And you are late with 2012's gossip.
Also from your link an update:
Update from Climate Depot: The IPCC issued the certificates with the text on them to IPCC participants, including Mann. Mann did not add the text himself. Here is a photo of a UN IPCC issued certificate (LINK)
"temember"[your spelling] you are no judge or jury in this matter. Wait for "there"[your spelling] decision.
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<quoted text>Do that to climate change.
You're presupposing that it is a crisis in the first place.

But you still post over and over again driving up your own carbon footprint while still demanding others reduce theirs.

Global warming hypocrites are everywhere so you aren't alone.

You might take some solace in that, but it doesn't make you any less a hypocrite.

“Let's X Change!!”

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The Nobel response on Mann:
1. Michael Mann has never been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.
2.he did not receive a personal certificate.
3. No individuals on the on the IPCC received anything in 2007.
He lied!!! And so do you, little lap dog spaced blues!!
Lol
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If the government didn't give subsidies for biofuels that made growing crops for fuel more lucrative than crops for food and feed then there would be more supply for food and feed.
That answer was expected.

Rather than the facts, you prefer to blame government or scientists for the crisis.

That will catch up to you someday.
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Once again, using crops for fuel reduces available crops for food.
This is truly a man-made 'crisis'.
Are coffee, chocolate, hops, and barley used in ethanol production?

If not, there must be something to that story, and you can't blame it on the bad ole government.

Climate change is truly a man-made crisis.
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<quoted text>For the first time in history, people shouting “the end is nigh” are somehow the sane ones, while those who say it is not are now the lunatics.
You're getting it now.

The end doesn't have to be nigh, if we act soon and act vigorously.

But, thanks for the support.
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That answer was expected.
Rather than the facts, you prefer to blame government or scientists for the crisis.
That will catch up to you someday.
You cannot deny the effects of government policy.
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Are coffee, chocolate, hops, and barley used in ethanol production?
If not, there must be something to that story, and you can't blame it on the bad ole government.
Climate change is truly a man-made crisis.
How obtuse.

If government subsidies provide a better payout than any crop, it will be produced instead.

>>Just like in Germany, where biofuel incentives caused farmers to shift from barley to corn, in North America, farmers have been switching from hops production to corn, leading to a worldwide shortage. In the United States, where a quarter of hops are grown, acreage fell 30 per cent between 1995 and 2006, according to the Los Angeles Times. Barley malt prices are also on the rise.

http://www.treehugger.com/green-food/microbre...

That big 'ol bad government....

d'Oh!
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You're presupposing that it is a crisis in the first place.
But you still post over and over again driving up your own carbon footprint while still demanding others reduce theirs.
Global warming hypocrites are everywhere so you aren't alone.
You might take some solace in that, but it doesn't make you any less a hypocrite.
It is science, science denier: Jeff Severinghaus, a geoscientist at the Scripps Institution of Oceanography, said that through the use of radioactive isotopes, scientists are more than 99 percent sure that much of the carbon in the air has human fingerprints on it. And because of basic physics, scientists are 99 percent certain that carbon traps heat in what is called the greenhouse effect.

Hence, more than 99% certainty that modern global warming is a man-made malady.

You are a burning fossil fueled hypocrite.

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