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There are 60660 comments on the Newsday story from Dec 14, 2008, titled Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt.... In it, Newsday reports that:

When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, global warming was a slow-moving environmental problem that was easy to ignore.

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#39704 Sep 24, 2013
Mothra wrote:
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Fox News! Fox News! Fox News!
There... that should make you feel better.
Hmmmm...I must have touched a nerve.
Mothra

United States

#39705 Sep 24, 2013
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
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Hmmmm...I must have touched a nerve.
LOL

Not at all. Just giving you blame target up front.

Happy now?

Since: Jul 11

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#39706 Sep 24, 2013
Mothra wrote:
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Fox News! Fox News! Fox News!
There... that should make you feel better.
You know scientists by their nature are usually introverted so selling a message is not what they are about. There are not too many David Suzuki's in this world. So they have to rely on the honesty of the press to get their message out. On the other hand any commercial interest that wants to defend the status quo can buy any PR machine to do the work for them including right wing bloggers putting out tonnes of misinformation. When it comes to the environment, we either have to put faith in our government or collect from & rely on the public to protect it. It won't come from anywhere else.
Mothra

United States

#39707 Sep 24, 2013
OzRitz wrote:
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You know scientists by their nature are usually introverted so selling a message is not what they are about. There are not too many David Suzuki's in this world. So they have to rely on the honesty of the press to get their message out. On the other hand any commercial interest that wants to defend the status quo can buy any PR machine to do the work for them including right wing bloggers putting out tonnes of misinformation. When it comes to the environment, we either have to put faith in our government or collect from & rely on the public to protect it. It won't come from anywhere else.
Not just the status quo buys PR machines like Al Gore, who hypes the issue, and makes absurd proclamations.

Your lens needs cleaning.
LessHypeMoreFact

Etobicoke, Canada

#39708 Sep 24, 2013
OzRitz wrote:
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So they have to rely on the honesty of the press to get their message out.
Not a likely outcome when Faux News is the medium.

Rupert Murdock wants to CONTROL the message, not deliver it.
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#39709 Sep 24, 2013
When does a crisis become a crisis? Just when it is recognized?

I could argue that eating tainted food is a crisis for your body from the beginning, but is only recognized as one when you get sick.

Likewise, we could be in a crisis now, but don't recognize it. Someone sounding an alarm now could be considered a fear-monger, and in hindsight, a few years down the road, a visionary.

Dr. Hanson comes to mind.
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#39710 Sep 24, 2013
Wheat will not do well as temperatures increase, as hotter weather will affect growth and the amount of disease the plant has to deal with.

Eating bread with certain fungi in it will induce a crisis in your body, as well; one that could be fatal.
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#39711 Sep 24, 2013
I love my bananas, but an increasing number of extreme weather events, like typhoon Bopha, which destroyed one quarter of the 2012 Philippine crop, will only increase my food costs in the future.
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#39712 Sep 24, 2013
More sweet stuff, like maple syrup yields, is being reduced by warmer winters in the Northeast. Not only is that a rather bitter pill, but the syrup industry, worth about $25 million, is being impacted by climate change.

Nothing to waffle about; I'd hate to see the industry pancake.
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#39713 Sep 24, 2013
I don't do wine, but I understand too much heat makes for a poor quality crop of grapes.

You probably won't be able to stomp out very bad years in the future.

“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#39714 Sep 24, 2013
LOL!!!!!!!!!!

the degenerative mindset of the alarmist.
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#39715 Sep 24, 2013
Chicken is the most common meat in the world. And here in the South, chicken house proliferate.

But in 2012, the drought was so bad, that chicken feed had to imported into Georgia from Brazil.

I remember several years ago, heat waves killed millions of chickens in their houses because the fans there could only circulate hot, dry air and the birds couldn't take it. Many chicken farmers were driven out of the business.

Then, on the local level, my neighbor had four out of five of his chicken houses destroyed by the tornado we experienced in 2011, with a loss of close to 100,000 chicks. His insurance paid, but he decided to get out of the business. One less supplier means that many fewer fryers on the market leading to a slight increase in cost because of shorter supply; just another penny or two added to your grocery bill, which is constantly increased by the effects of climate change.

We are paying for global warming every day.
SpaceBlues

United States

#39716 Sep 24, 2013
The Arctic seas are among those most vulnerable to acidification, because the cold allows them to absorb more CO2. This increasing acidity is already known to affect some Arctic creatures which use calcium to build their shells, including some sea snails, mussels and other molluscs.

But scientists had not known unil now how acidification alters both the base of the marine food web and oceanic carbon transport. The five week-long field study, conducted in the Kongsfjord in Svalbard, sought to close this knowledge gap.

For the experiment the scientists deployed nine large “mesocosms”– eight-metre long flotation frames carrying plastic bags with a capacity of 50 cubic metres. These bags let researchers study plankton communities in their natural environment under controlled conditions, rather than in a laboratory.

The scientists gradually added CO2 to the mesocosm water so that it reached the acidity levels expected in 20, 40, 60, 80 and 100 years, with two bags left as controls. They also added nutrients to simulate a natural plankton bloom.

They found that, with higher CO2, pico- and, to a lesser extent, nanoplankton grew, consuming nutrients and leaving fewer for larger plankton.“The different responses we observed made it clear that the communities’ sensitivity to acidification depends strongly on whether or not nutrients are available,” Riebesell says.

“…the tiniest plankton benefit from the surplus CO2, they produce more biomass and more organic carbon, and dimethyl sulphide production and carbon export decrease.”

Researchers at two UK universities reported earlier this month that they had found that rising temperatures in the oceans would affect plankton development, upsetting the natural cycles of carbon dioxide, nitrogen and phosphorous.
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#39717 Sep 24, 2013
Mothra wrote:
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Not just the status quo buys PR machines like Al Gore, who hypes the issue, and makes absurd proclamations.
Your lens needs cleaning.
Al Gore is political so it's his job to sell a message he believes in. He took it on because he believed in what the science was saying & portrayed that message. As for the rest of the scientists selling ability, it only amounts to a handful around the globe as it is total alien territory for them.
Which then leaves "US", the average Joe who also choose to believe in the science. Why because it all makes logical sense that man is having a huge impact on the planet's environment because with over 7 billion of "us" on the planet now we consume far more than the environment can regenerate in time which equates to a negative impact. A continual extending of the environmental credit card if you like.

But for those who choose not to look at that environmental credit bill that comes out every year and keep asking for extensions. They make all of "US" pay more in the long run in every possible way. Both financially, socially and living in a secure peaceful existence. Throughout history ignorance has always paid the highest price.

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain retreat, SE Spain

#39718 Sep 25, 2013
OzRitz wrote:
Al Gore is political so it's his job to sell a message he believes in. He took it on because he believed in what the science was saying & portrayed that message.
How much of what he has said do you believe?
A percentage will do, if you know what percentage means, of course?

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain retreat, SE Spain

#39719 Sep 25, 2013
cavemonkey wrote:
And here in the South, chicken house[sic] proliferate.
So does chicken shít.
In your case, bullshít.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#39720 Sep 25, 2013
Watch a skinny Al with Charlie Rose and Bill Clinton. He's both wise and funny!
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#39721 Sep 25, 2013
From FoxNews: Former vice president Al Gore on Monday called for making climate change “denial” a taboo in society.

“Within the market system we have to put a price on carbon, and within the political system, we have to put a price on denial,” Gore said at the Social Good Summit New York City.

He urged attendees to challenge denial of climate change in conversations in families and communities and elsewhere.“We can win this conversation and winning a conversation can make all the difference,” Gore said.“Don’t let denial go unchallenged.”

Gore noted how racism and later homophobia have become increasingly unacceptable.
Mothra

United States

#39722 Sep 25, 2013
Earthling-1 wrote:
<quoted text>How much of what he has said do you believe?
A percentage will do, if you know what percentage means, of course?
In this thread and others, Al Gore gets a pass: he's not a scientist they say, he's just a promoter they say, or he's a politician they say.

And when questioned as to what Gore says, promotes and demands on the part of global warming compared how he himself lives in his mansions, his jets & travel and his SUV caravans to and from his 'events', he gets another pass.

Stuff like that makes thinking people say, hmmmm....

Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.
Mothra

United States

#39723 Sep 25, 2013
OzRitz wrote:
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Al Gore is political so it's his job to sell a message he believes in. He took it on because he believed in what the science was saying & portrayed that message. As for the rest of the scientists selling ability, it only amounts to a handful around the globe as it is total alien territory for them.
Yegads! You think I'm talking about a media campaign for all your 'scientists' to "sell" global warming? How about just a march, a letter to the editor, anything to show they are taking it as seriously as you are. What changes in their lives have they made to thwart global warming, and demonstrate it is indeed a "crisis".

As for Al Gore, if he believes in it, he doesn't abide by it.

Lousy spokesman you have there.

But that's something warmists don't talk about.

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