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There are 54333 comments on the Newsday story from Dec 14, 2008, titled Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt.... In it, Newsday reports that:

When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, global warming was a slow-moving environmental problem that was easy to ignore.

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SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#39590 Sep 22, 2013
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>A certificate acknowledging a contribution does not a Nobel award make.
It's pretty obvious you made a mistake.
No one will hold that against you.
But....to continue to lie that you were wrong is abysmal.
Show some self respect and honesty.....for your own sake.
You were wrong......get over it. No big deal.
Not only you made a big deal of a no-mistake but your denier friend jumped into it late.

It was my terminology for Mann's early work. I explained its basis to you asap. OTOH I really appreciate how Mann progressed to become a book [two of them] author and how much he suffered many personal attacks by nonscience folks.

Btw you changed my words while you attacked. The start of all this was to get you read a book by Mann.. A Nobel-winning scientist!
Mothra

Phoenix, AZ

#39591 Sep 22, 2013
Fair Game wrote:
<quoted text>
So you're clueless about grammar as well as global warming?
http://blog.oxforddictionaries.com/2011/11/gr...
Aw gee... lookey here...

the Global Warming Hypocrite has a friend.

Good for you. I'm sure he was feeling so alone and lost.

Now, not so much on that, but still a hypocrite.
Mothra

Phoenix, AZ

#39592 Sep 22, 2013
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>A certificate acknowledging a contribution does not a Nobel award make.
It's pretty obvious you made a mistake.
No one will hold that against you.
But....to continue to lie that you were wrong is abysmal.
Show some self respect and honesty.....for your own sake.
You were wrong......get over it. No big deal.
Wanna really drive that global warming hypocrite nuts?

That alleged Nobel prize was for 'peace' not 'science'.

Fact is funnier than fiction.
B as in B S as in S

Minneapolis, MN

#39593 Sep 22, 2013
LessHypeMoreFact wrote:
<quoted text>
A silly non-sequitur. Crops re grown where there is a population to feed,...
Once again, the opposite of 'fact'.

In the first half of the 20th century the Midwest (USA) was known as the "Grain Belt" also, the "Bread Basket Of The World". That, of course, will mean nothing to one who suffers from 'Cognitive Denial' but for the rest of us it means that crops are grown and then shipped all over the planet. Such will continue as long as the fossil fuels are available to power the distribution system.

Post Script:
IF ever you write something (excluding 'cut n' paste) that is factually correct I will post an acknowledgement due to it's RARE Nature.
Mothra

Phoenix, AZ

#39594 Sep 22, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
<quoted text>
What would you know?
<><><>< ><><><> <><><>
Scientists will this week issue their starkest warning yet about the mounting dangers of global warming. In a report to be handed to political leaders in Stockholm on Monday, they will say that the burning of fossil fuels and deforestation have now led to a warming of the entire globe, including land surfaces, oceans and the atmosphere.
Extreme weather events, including heatwaves and storms, have increased in many regions while ice sheets are dwindling at an alarming rate. In addition, sea levels are rising while the oceans are being acidified – a development that could see the planet's coral reefs disappearing before the end of the century.
Writing in the Observer ahead of the report's release, the economist and climate change expert Lord Stern calls on governments to end their dithering about fossil fuels and start working to create a global low-carbon economy to curtail global warming. Governments, he states, must decide what "kind of world we want to present to our children and grandchildren".
<><><>< ><><><> <><><>< >
A preview from the Guardian.
Now if all the 'scientists', leaders, politicians, followers and devotees of global warming actually 'acted' like it was a crisis, instead of just insisting others do so, you just might be saying something.

Until then... it's just another doom and gloom prediction.

btw, where did the all funding come for this report? How much travel? How many pages of paper were deforested? What was the size of the carbon footprint created to draft this report?

“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#39595 Sep 22, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>Not only you made a big deal of a no-mistake but your denier friend jumped into it late.
It was my terminology for Mann's early work. I explained its basis to you asap. OTOH I really appreciate how Mann progressed to become a book [two of them] author and how much he suffered many personal attacks by nonscience folks.
Btw you changed my words while you attacked. The start of all this was to get you read a book by Mann.. A Nobel-winning scientist!
He didn't win a Nobel. What part of that don't you understand?

It's a public forum.....anyone can call anyone out when they made a mistake.

I'm not making a big deal of your erroneous claim, but you can't deny that you're wrong.

I never changed your words, son. You claimed Mann was a Nobel winning scientist. He is not. And, you are wrong.

Open and shut....it really is that simple.

Stop embarrassing yourself. Admit you made a mistake....no big deal. If you don't.....you're a proven liar. If you do...I won't bring it up.

Save what's left of your credibility and intellectual honesty.

You could do yourself a favor!!!
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#39597 Sep 22, 2013
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>He didn't win a Nobel. What part of that don't you understand?
It's a public forum.....anyone can call anyone out when they made a mistake.
I'm not making a big deal of your erroneous claim, but you can't deny that you're wrong.
I never changed your words, son. You claimed Mann was a Nobel winning scientist. He is not. And, you are wrong.
Open and shut....it really is that simple.
Stop embarrassing yourself. Admit you made a mistake....no big deal. If you don't.....you're a proven liar. If you do...I won't bring it up.
Save what's left of your credibility and intellectual honesty.
You could do yourself a favor!!!
No, Mann is a Nobel-winning scientist.

Go read the previous exchanges. You LOSE! I am right!

Michael Mann even twitted, "IPCC certificate acknowledging me "contributing to award of the Nobel Peace Prize". Do they want my birth certif too?" It would appear the answer is yes.

Update from Climate Depot: The IPCC issued the certificates with the text on them to IPCC participants, including Mann. Mann did not add the text himself. Here is a photo of a UN IPCC issued certificate (LINK)

Move on, LOL.

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#39598 Sep 22, 2013
Mothra wrote:
<quoted text>
Aw gee... lookey here...
the Global Warming Hypocrite has a friend.
Good for you. I'm sure he was feeling so alone and lost.
Now, not so much on that, but still a hypocrite.
Don't you have any other lying to attend to, bitch?
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#39599 Sep 22, 2013
Mothra wrote:
<quoted text>
Wanna really drive that global warming hypocrite nuts?
That alleged Nobel prize was for 'peace' not 'science'.
Fact is funnier than fiction.
Yeah.. like you posting about science when you are sans science!

Move on, name caller. LOL.
Mothra

Phoenix, AZ

#39600 Sep 22, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>No, Mann is a Nobel-winning scientist.
Go read the previous exchanges. You LOSE! I am right!
Michael Mann even twitted, "IPCC certificate acknowledging me "contributing to award of the Nobel Peace Prize". Do they want my birth certif too?" It would appear the answer is yes.
Update from Climate Depot: The IPCC issued the certificates with the text on them to IPCC participants, including Mann. Mann did not add the text himself. Here is a photo of a UN IPCC issued certificate (LINK)
Move on, LOL.
Global Warming Hypocrite,

Mann's bio of "contributing to award of the Nobel Peace Prize", was made AFTER it first claimed, "He shared the Nobel Peace Prize
with other IPCC authors in 2007."

http://johnosullivan.wordpress.com/2012/10/28...

Follow the link, see actual screen caps.

You lose... over and over and over and over again.

LOL
Mothra

Phoenix, AZ

#39601 Sep 22, 2013
Fair Game wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't you have any other lying to attend to, bitch?
Ahh... nothing like name calling to get the 'global warming hypocrite' to give you some positive icons, huh?

Feel better? I know he does.
Mothra

Phoenix, AZ

#39602 Sep 22, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>Yeah.. like you posting about science when you are sans science!
Move on, name caller. LOL.
Global Warming Hypocrite,

How much have you increased your CO2 footprint today alone just trying save face?
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#39603 Sep 22, 2013
Troll ignored. Nuff said.
Mothra

Phoenix, AZ

#39604 Sep 22, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
Troll ignored. Nuff said.
LOL

As if.

You'll be back trolling any minute now, global warming hypocrite.
litesong

Monroe, WA

#39605 Sep 22, 2013
B as in B S as in S wrote:
In the first half of the 20th century the Midwest (USA) was known as the "Grain Belt" also, the "Bread Basket Of The World".
The Oglala Aquifer was wasted for ego, known unsustainable water draw, potential big profits(which didn't occur because of over-production & low crop prices), & expanded farm production, that is very much in danger of contraction due to the aquifer overuse & drying.

Since: Mar 09

Wichita, KS

#39606 Sep 22, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
Troll ignored. Nuff said.
You can't change the minds of the mindless Limbaugh and Hannity lovers. I'll bet they still thing President Obama is an illegal alien and want to shut down the government because they want to kill Obama Care because they are sore losers.
Mothra

Phoenix, AZ

#39607 Sep 22, 2013
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
<quoted text>
You can't change the minds of the mindless Limbaugh and Hannity lovers. I'll bet they still thing President Obama is an illegal alien and want to shut down the government because they want to kill Obama Care because they are sore losers.
<sigh>

More mindless political blathering from the one who criticizes 'politics' in science.

“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#39608 Sep 22, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>No, Mann is a Nobel-winning scientist.
Go read the previous exchanges. You LOSE! I am right!
Michael Mann even twitted, "IPCC certificate acknowledging me "contributing to award of the Nobel Peace Prize". Do they want my birth certif too?" It would appear the answer is yes.
Update from Climate Depot: The IPCC issued the certificates with the text on them to IPCC participants, including Mann. Mann did not add the text himself. Here is a photo of a UN IPCC issued certificate (LINK)
Move on, LOL.
you're a proven liar. i guess you need to move on, son.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#39609 Sep 22, 2013
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>you're a proven liar. i guess you need to move on, son.
Nonsense.

Why do you bother to abuse posters? You have no class.

In addition to what you responded to, a repeat of the Wikipedia reference that I had posted earlier:

The IPCC presented Mann with a personalized certificate "for contributing to the award of the Nobel Peace Prize for 2007 to the IPCC", celebrating the joint award of the Nobel Peace Prize to the IPCC and to Al Gore. The 2007 Nobel Peace Prize was awarded to the IPCC as an organisation, and the prize was not an award to any individual involved with the IPCC.[47] The IPCC officially states that the certificates were issued "to scientists that had contributed substantially to the preparation of IPCC reports. Such certificates, which feature a copy of the Nobel Peace Prize diploma, were sent to coordinating lead authors, lead authors, review editors, Bureau members, staff of the technical support units and staff of the secretariat from the IPCC’s inception in 1988 until the award of the prize in 2007. The IPCC has not sent such certificates to contributing authors, expert reviewers and focal points."[47][48] In his 2012 book Mann noted an IPCC meeting in 2009 celebrating the prize, where Working Group 1 co-chair Susan Solomon highlighted the personal sacrifice that he and Benjamin D. Santer had made in the name of the IPCC.[49]

Move on, LOL.

“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#39610 Sep 22, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>Nonsense.
Why do you bother to abuse posters? You have no class.
In addition to what you responded to, a repeat of the Wikipedia reference that I had posted earlier:
The IPCC presented Mann with a personalized certificate "for contributing to the award of the Nobel Peace Prize for 2007 to the IPCC", celebrating the joint award of the Nobel Peace Prize to the IPCC and to Al Gore. The 2007 Nobel Peace Prize was awarded to the IPCC as an organisation, and the prize was not an award to any individual involved with the IPCC.[47] The IPCC officially states that the certificates were issued "to scientists that had contributed substantially to the preparation of IPCC reports. Such certificates, which feature a copy of the Nobel Peace Prize diploma, were sent to coordinating lead authors, lead authors, review editors, Bureau members, staff of the technical support units and staff of the secretariat from the IPCC’s inception in 1988 until the award of the prize in 2007. The IPCC has not sent such certificates to contributing authors, expert reviewers and focal points."[47][48] In his 2012 book Mann noted an IPCC meeting in 2009 celebrating the prize, where Working Group 1 co-chair Susan Solomon highlighted the personal sacrifice that he and Benjamin D. Santer had made in the name of the IPCC.[49]
Move on, LOL.
I'm not abusing anyone, son. You, one the other hand, seem to insist on abusing yourself for perpetuating an obvious lie. I wouldn't call you a liar....if you would've admitted to making a mistake.

Your self abuse is all your own now, son.

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