Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt...

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When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, global warming was a slow-moving environmental problem that was easy to ignore.
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There is no persuading a denier. That have to change from within.
Ridicule is deserved when deception is attempted. At the very least.
Ok. You win

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You should have asked questions in your science, chemistry, astronomy, physics, algebra & pre-calc classes........ oh..... you never took them.
"middleofthedownwronggull y" continues in the middle of the down wrong gully.
temember to ask questions when you're old enough to take those classes, son. Maybe then it will be easier for you to see the lunacy in your thinking.
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I don't care if it gets warmer.
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Dont givaplugnikel wrote:
I don't care if it gets warmer.
Did you just wake up?

Waiting for severe storms to change your opinions on policy is to love suffering.

Global warming precedes climate change, ocean acidification, diseases, sea-level rise, climate refugees, extinctions, habitat destruction, and more effects.

Perhaps you can learn more from the climate scientists.

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SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>Did you just wake up?
Waiting for severe storms to change your opinions on policy is to love suffering.
Global warming precedes climate change, ocean acidification, diseases, sea-level rise, climate refugees, extinctions, habitat destruction, and more effects.
Perhaps you can learn more from the climate scientists.
perhaps you can learn from science as opposed to blindly drinking political swill.
Climate has cooled and heated for millions of years.
It is so funny to read people's posts suggesting that our use, or cessation, of fossil fuels will alter climate one way or the other.
Go back to sleep!!! You obviously prefer your dreamland over reality.
Lol
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ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>perhaps you can learn from science as opposed to blindly drinking political swill.
Climate has cooled and heated for millions of years.
It is so funny to read people's posts suggesting that our use, or cessation, of fossil fuels will alter climate one way or the other.
Go back to sleep!!! You obviously prefer your dreamland over reality.
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I didn't wake you up, did I? I was replying to another poster.

Your dogma is sans science and you know it. Fossil fuels are passe, get it?

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Dont givaplugnikel wrote:
I don't care if it gets warmer.
If it gets cooler, start to panic.

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SpaceBlues wrote:
Fossil fuels are passe ...
How are you getting along without fossil fuel?
What are you using to produce electricity?
Are you completely off the grid?

IF (god forbid) you drive, which electric car do you own?
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Earthling-1 wrote:
<quoted text>How are you getting along without fossil fuel?
What are you using to produce electricity?
Are you completely off the grid?
IF (god forbid) you drive, which electric car do you own?
Warmists don't actually have to make the changes they demand of others.

They're 'doing their part' by just noting how others can do better.

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a person who claims or pretends to have certain beliefs about what is right but who behaves in a way that disagrees with those beliefs
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You are correct on the exporting of emissions and the same can be said of Canada. It saved Canada and Australia from the GFC one of the few countries in the world that did not go into recession and maintained a AAA credit rating along with 5% unemployment. Yet Murdoch media painted this as a monumental failure. However, per head of population, China is a lot greener than the US and they are quickly moving their economy towards emission limits. What you don't realise that when it comes, they will be able to take the hit a lot better than the US economically, that's the saddest part of you deniers just looking at the short term.
Are you sure about China? Can they be trusted? They are already under reporting their CO2 emissions, so how sure are you that they will do what they say? Are they only giving the illusion they are cutting emissions by doing a little bit here and there?

China may have under-reported its annual carbon emissions by as much as 1.4 billion tonnes a year.“According to a new paper [The gigatonne gap in China’s carbon dioxide inventories] published in the journal Nature Climate Change, China may be under-reporting its annual carbon emissions by as much as 1.4 billion tonnes a year—roughly the amount that Japan, the world’s fourth-largest emitter of carbon dioxide (CO2), pumps out each year.

China is the world’s largest CO2 emitter and produces around a quarter of global carbon emissions.

But according to the new study, which used more than a decade of official Chinese data, China’s carbon emissions could be 20% higher than previously thought. It says the emission discrepancy in 2010 is equivalent to about 5% of the total global output (in 2008). The authors, a team of scientists from China, Britain and America, found that when comparing national and provincial statistics between 1997 and 2010 a startling gap appeared. National-level statistics from the period reported a roughly 7.5% annual increase in emissions, to 7.69 billion tonnes in 2010.

Data released by [China's local] provincial-level statistics offices and compiled by the group [led by Dabo Guan, based at the University of Leeds in Britain] showed that the increase could be nearer 8.5%.”(“Warmed-up numbers - China may be severely under-reporting its carbon emissions,” The Economist, Beijing, China, June 23, 2012 reporting findings in Guan et al 2012, Dabo Guan, Zhu Liu, Yong Geng, Sören Lindner, & Klaus Hubacek,“The gigatonne gap in China’s carbon dioxide inventories,” Nature Climate Change, doi:10.1038/nclimate1560, June 10, 2012)

http://www.global-warming-forecasts.com/under...

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<quoted text> Fossil fuels are passe, get it?
Typewriters are passe. You are a moron who doesn't get it.
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World's biggest continuous polluters in history:

1. UK.
2. USA.

China, Russia, India, Spain, etc don't even come close yet. Still per capita the US is number 1.
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SYRIA
KERRY ASKS RUSSIA TO PLEASE STEP UP AND HELP DISARM
Via Politico.

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From the above report, by doing to dismantle Syria chemical weapons is making clumsy way, such that Syria needs to turn in data for examination, to possibly open up for inspection like Iraq again, which will make others say much more if US saying unsatisfactory to be hassling Syria more, like another Iraq cycle. That can lead to further scrutinizing to do more of some other Iraq unrest in the final end again. As this is like former Iraq case weapons inspection, it is doing the similar ugly matter of Bush-the Iraq blueprint case of another story of Syria just like Iraq story, as even whoeever did not start that--but just calling chemical WEAPONS ISSUE only. In doing so,is repeating the Iraq inspection and dismantling programs process before US bombed Iraq at that time--what a waste of time is doing the same old failure thing of dismantling chemical weapons?

IN SHORT, BY CONCLUSION, THERE SHOULD NEVER BE AGAIN ANY of this irritated failure thing of dismantling chemical weapons anywhere because Iraq awful drama syndrome proves all.
SHOULD HAVE DONE THESE:
(1) Should not take literally what Obama says from passing the buck to keep on this chemical weapons drama. THERE SHOULD NEVER BE AGAIN ANY of this irritated failure thing to dismantle chemical weapons IN SYRIA because Iraq drama proves all.
(2) REJECT redline as it is arbitrary--that is, when will be the thresh-hold degree to such case that is the redline defined, that there is such ground of comprehensive International law to enforce such. Furthermore, 8/21 incident is not the case nor basis, as it is entirely out of line to conclude such pattern in noting, in addition to Assad's saying he did not do it while rebels have sarin gas.
(3) The matter of knowing Syria has sarin gas is besides the point if it has not used it, that there is not the need to dismantle Syria chemical weapons, to outcome again the Iraq destructive case, of dismantling Syria like Iraq WMD again, which is being turned down by the whole world.
(4) There is no such redline that chemical weapons usage in Syria is an issue, except the turmoil situation is the only bearing of the importance to focus on. This is not to make diversion and to pull away from the only concern focus on the Syria unrest. Therefore, chemical weapons issue is not applicable, for there is no such redline in the first place.
(5) THERE IS NO REDLINE WHATSOEVER AT ALL, such as Syria, that Obama needs to tone down the tension as these are basic rules that US needs to conform to, by making a change, as US has been seen to engage in much aggression, particularly in the ME region.
(6) As not to do and repeat the similar failure case of Iraq, this proves that calling chemical weapons and redline is purely arbitrary and is not appropriate to deal with chemical weapons as issue, FOR all that is PURELY hysteria with no basis.
(7) UN has to reject that as an issue, based on all the reports of unproven or not, which will make no difference whatsoever from whatever reports.
(8) It is only the option for Syria to choose to do with its chemical weapons whatever it wants, to turn in or not, as long as it does not use it--for no trend has indicated the usage at all.
(9) Chemical weapons ARE NOT as THE issue.
That is THIS STAND, FOR THIS DOES ALL RELATED TO THE SOLUTION -- US has no basis of ill hysteria and cannot force Syria to need what to do with its chemical weapons, for there cannot be another Iraq matter of chemical weapons pursuit again.

(10) People should not be concerned about chemical weapons of Syria, because a lot of countries have more or less the same and other toxic chemicals and weapons as well. It is up to Syria to do whatever if it so chooses like other countries. Redline and chemical weapons in Syria are not it, because that is all wrong started by Obama to devise making large drama crisis.

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Warmists don't actually have to make the changes they demand of others.
They're 'doing their part' by just noting how others can do better.
hyp·o·crite
a person who claims or pretends to have certain beliefs about what is right but who behaves in a way that disagrees with those beliefs
and they believe outright lies are morally good if it helps promote their agenda.
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<quoted text>and they believe outright lies are morally good if it helps promote their agenda.
"they" are 'us?'

What's our alleged agenda? Come on and lie again. LOL

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SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>"they" are 'us?'
What's our alleged agenda? Come on and lie again. LOL
if you are they....then your political agenda is built on scientific lies.

To put it in perspective....if all the molecules could be lined up in the atmosphere and represented on a scale from the beginning of the LA airport runway to the end of the runway in NY.....and co2 molecules were first in line......you'd run out of co2 before take off!! What supernatural impact do you religious fanatics think co2 has??
You can kid yourself.....but you're not kidding those of us who know better.
And, yes, we have the scientific observations to back up our position, son.
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Should read pseudo scientific lies
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pp 106-107, The Hockey Stick and the Climate Wars.

http://books.google.com/books...
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ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>if you are they....then your political agenda is built on scientific lies.
To put it in perspective....if all the molecules could be lined up in the atmosphere and represented on a scale from the beginning of the LA airport runway to the end of the runway in NY.....and co2 molecules were first in line......you'd run out of co2 before take off!! What supernatural impact do you religious fanatics think co2 has??
You can kid yourself.....but you're not kidding those of us who know better.
And, yes, we have the scientific observations to back up our position, son.
Lol
Hahahaha you are zero in science, name caller. Where do you orient your observations to back up your chair position?

Just read this by a climate scientist:

http://books.google.com/books...
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Should read pseudo scientific lies
You fell off your chair and hit your head on the stone wall.. again, did you not?

Get some help.

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