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There are 61522 comments on the Newsday story from Dec 14, 2008, titled Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt.... In it, Newsday reports that:

When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, global warming was a slow-moving environmental problem that was easy to ignore.

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“For God & Country”

Since: Aug 13

The Promised Land Illinois

#39243 Sep 16, 2013
Let’s look at some so called green energy and global warming.
Windmills: kill 100’s of birds a day country wide
Windmills: Increase ground temperate by 1 degree.
Windmills: Change wind patterns (I am not sure if they are doing what a forest would do in the same location on wind patterns.)
Windmills: Cost 2 million to put up per windmill. Life expectance of windmills 25 years with maintenance return on investment 342 months
This does not look so green to me
SpaceBlues

United States

#39244 Sep 16, 2013
B as in B S as in S wrote:
<quoted text> I suspect that is not the case.
It is clear; there is not a single science study or science academy that claims that "Our CO2 emissions are so high that dangerous warming will still result."
You are infinitely and definitely wrong.

Daily man-made CO2 emissions amount to 90 million tons! Warming is not the only consequence. Why don't you pay attention to all the other resulting man-made happenings such as global climate change, ocean acidification, species extinctions, sea-level rise, and many others like malaria increase, food shortages, habitat destruction, etc.

You don't understand the way the scientists express their work. They don't talk like you do, LOL. Neither does the President.
SpaceBlues

United States

#39245 Sep 16, 2013
dont drink the koolaid wrote:
<quoted text>
Dear Fair Game,
It helps because a warmer Earth, on average, has been a good thing (no glaciers over Minneapolis or Madison) and there is no observed evidence the benefits will stop. CM's "suggest" continued warming will someday be bad but they may be wrong... in the same way they were wrong when they failed to forecast the "pause" in warming within these past 2 decades.
May your faith bring you peace,
-koolaid
It is not a picnic. Read my previous post.

“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#39246 Sep 16, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Link?
So I can read them myself, since I sure as hell don't trust you to comprehend English, nor tell the truth.
Here's the link you requested, Gomer! Now let's see how well your English comprehension is, son.
http://www.populartechnology.net/2013/05/97-s...
I posted this link back in May or early June. Took a little time to find it, but well worth it. I love damning evidence of pseudoscientific zealotry....and proving I don't lie to known lying idiots.
Mothra

United States

#39247 Sep 16, 2013
B as in B S as in S wrote:
"WILL" is not a qualifier one will read in 'Climate Science' Forecasts, Models, Studies, Reports, Abstracts, Statements, Conclusions or Endorsements.
"Likely,
May,
Suggest,
Possibly,
Could,
Indicates": yes such will be found in abundance, BUT NOT... "Will"
The new language is "95% certainty".
SpaceBlues

United States

#39248 Sep 16, 2013
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>Here's the link you requested, Gomer! Now let's see how well your English comprehension is, son.
http://www.populartechnology.net/2013/05/97-s...
I posted this link back in May or early June. Took a little time to find it, but well worth it. I love damning evidence of pseudoscientific zealotry....and proving I don't lie to known lying idiots.
Have you read all that bs?

No wonder you make no sense. You lost your mind while reading that mindless garbage. Poor poor poster! Pitiful.
SpaceBlues

United States

#39249 Sep 16, 2013
Mothra wrote:
<quoted text>
The new language is "95% certainty".
You are confusing things. Wait for the report, silly goose.

Now read this:

https://www.cdproject.net/CDPResults/CDP-Glob...

How about it?
Mothra

United States

#39250 Sep 16, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>You are confusing things. Wait for the report, silly goose.
Now read this:
https://www.cdproject.net/CDPResults/CDP-Glob...
How about it?
How about what?

Meh... I'll wait for the movie.
Bart

New York, NY

#39251 Sep 16, 2013
I hate snow too.
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#39252 Sep 16, 2013
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>Here's the link you requested, Gomer! Now let's see how well your English comprehension is, son.
http://www.populartechnology.net/2013/05/97-s...
I posted this link back in May or early June. Took a little time to find it, but well worth it. I love damning evidence of pseudoscientific zealotry....and proving I don't lie to known lying idiots.
Here is the abstract. See if you can find where you failed.

Also, six papers out of almost 12,000. Do you think that changes the 97% figure?

What a fool!
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#39253 Sep 16, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>Have you read all that bs?
No wonder you make no sense. You lost your mind while reading that mindless garbage. Poor poor poster! Pitiful.
This is an interesting quote from the CEO:

The economic case for action is strengthening.
This year, we published the 3% Solution with
WWF showing that the US corporate sector could
reduce emissions by 3% each year between 2010
and 2020 and deliver $780 billion in savings above
costs as a result. 79% of US companies responding
to CDP report higher ROI on emission reductions investments than on the average business investment.

If you follow the money, you'll get green. And vice-versa.
Mothra

United States

#39254 Sep 16, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
<quoted text>
This is an interesting quote from the CEO:
The economic case for action is strengthening.
This year, we published the 3% Solution with
WWF showing that the US corporate sector could
reduce emissions by 3% each year between 2010
and 2020 and deliver $780 billion in savings above
costs as a result. 79% of US companies responding
to CDP report higher ROI on emission reductions investments than on the average business investment.
If you follow the money, you'll get green. And vice-versa.
Maybe.

"79% of US companies responding
to CDP..."

That leads to a whole lot of questions. How many companies total? How many responded?

"...report higher ROI on emission reductions investments than on the average business investment."

The average business investment?

Gotta be careful with those kinds of generalities.

“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#39255 Sep 16, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Here is the abstract. See if you can find where you failed.
Also, six papers out of almost 12,000. Do you think that changes the 97% figure?
What a fool!
but 12,000 papers weren't used in the "97% calculation", son!!

LOL!!!

guess your english comprehension needs a lot of work, aye?

LOL..

“It's not personal Its business”

Since: Jan 08

Fluffya

#39256 Sep 16, 2013
Uh, no. You got it wrong. I am not a doomer. On the contrary.
mememine69 wrote:
<quoted text>Ok Doomer Michael Corleone, since I have seniority around here can you remind us again why we should look our children in the eyes and tell them they won't have kids of their own on a 5 billion year old planet now ravaged by Human CO2?

“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#39257 Sep 16, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>Have you read all that bs?
No wonder you make no sense. You lost your mind while reading that mindless garbage. Poor poor poster! Pitiful.
have you, wedge?

LOL

with a post like this coming from you....i'll take my link as a grand slam zinger!!

i know how you religious zealots react when you're left speechless after being force fed some factual information.

bwaaahahhahaaaaa
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#39258 Sep 16, 2013
Mothra wrote:
<quoted text>
Maybe.
"79% of US companies responding
to CDP..."
That leads to a whole lot of questions. How many companies total? How many responded?
"...report higher ROI on emission reductions investments than on the average business investment."
The average business investment?
Gotta be careful with those kinds of generalities.
Space gave you the link; don't wait for the movie, look it up. If you find anything wrong with it, contact the authors.

https://www.cdproject.net/CDPResults/CDP-Glob...
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#39259 Sep 16, 2013
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>but 12,000 papers weren't used in the "97% calculation", son!!
LOL!!!
guess your english comprehension needs a lot of work, aye?
LOL..
Does removing 6 papers change any percentage?

Did you notice this was a peer-reviewed paper?

Did you see the part where authors were asked to evaluate their own papers and grade where they stood in the debate?

You missed some pretty important stuff, boy.
kristy

New Smyrna Beach, FL

#39260 Sep 16, 2013
Fair Game wrote:
<quoted text>
From the abstract:
<quoted text>
So there's no missing heat, and the Earth continues to warm.
That helps your case how?
Well as you said earlier, "There is no guarantee that these papers are right."

And as Kevin Trenberth said:

“There are at least 10 estimates of upper ocean heat content,” Trenberth said.“They are all over the place, in spite of the fact that we have the best ocean observing system, with Argo floats, that we’ve ever had.”

So I think it's pretty safe to say no one actually has a clue as to actual heat content, where the heat is, if it's missing or not.
SpaceBlues

United States

#39261 Sep 16, 2013
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>have you, wedge?
LOL
with a post like this coming from you....i'll take my link as a grand slam zinger!!
i know how you religious zealots react when you're left speechless after being force fed some factual information.
bwaaahahhahaaaaa
Hahaha you lost!

<shooting from the hip is your mo>
SpaceBlues

United States

#39262 Sep 16, 2013
Michael Corleone wrote:
Uh, no. You got it wrong. I am not a doomer. On the contrary.
<quoted text>
What? What did you really mean?

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