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There are 63836 comments on the Newsday story from Dec 14, 2008, titled Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt.... In it, Newsday reports that:

When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, global warming was a slow-moving environmental problem that was easy to ignore.

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Mothra

United States

#39186 Sep 15, 2013
litesong wrote:
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<sigh>

Guess you need more reminders.

Take your meds... every day.

How to Remember to Take Medication
http://www.wikihow.com/Remember-to-Take-Medic...
litesong

Snohomish, WA

#39187 Sep 15, 2013
motheaten wrote:
Earth has gained 19,000 Manhattans of sea ice since this date last year, the largest increase on record.
Altho toxic topix AGW deniers seldom make comments on record shattering AGW enhanced events AT the time of those events, toxic topix AGW deniers love comparing those record shattering AGW enhanced events to "recovery" events, such as 1998-99, 2007-08 & now 2012-13. However, toxic topix AGW deniers seldom get the science & mathematics right, because they don't have science & mathematics degrees.
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Sea ice VOLUME is a better measure of conditions than short climate events:

Arctic VOLUME as of September 1, 2013 is not quite 16% HIGHER(not 60%, like toxic topix AGW deniers report) than that of the "2010-to-current" time range. Average Arctic sea ice VOLUME for September 1, for the period 1980-89, was ~15,000 cubic kilometers. Present September 1, 2013 sea ice VOLUME is almost 3 times less,~5100 cubic kilometers,~10,000 cubic kilometers less than the 1980-89 period for September 1.

Put 10,000 cubic kilometers of 1980's ice minus present day ice on Manhattan....... & you'll have an ice depth of 14 miles. "motheaten" has a whole lot of Arctic sea ice, still to recover.
B as in B S as in S

Eden Prairie, MN

#39188 Sep 15, 2013
B as in B S as in S wrote:
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"CMs forecasted drought yet it is likely that researchers will connect Anthropogenic CO2 as contributory to this weather (event)?"
gcaveman1 wrote:
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Colorado has been in a drought. I guess the models were right.
Why don't you develop a model that can predict the weather on September 15th, 2020?.
Yes, the models that predicted drought were right. And the models that predicted flooding were right!
And the forecast of "Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up..." Is, well, "a Fact" in the minds of the true believers.

As far as my "predictions" record: it is 100% accurate and if I chose to forecast the "weather" for Sept. 15th, 2020 it too would be correct. But that would be pointless, for as the experts have learned, as long as the prognostication is far enough into the future there is no risk to one's credibility for being wrong.

“EnvironMENTAList ”

Since: Feb 07

Near Detroit

#39189 Sep 15, 2013
How is science agreeing for 28 years that a CO2 crisis only could happen, not WILL happen supposed to be a consensus of anything? No wonder we have deniers so why doesn't science end this costly debate now and agree it will be an inevitable crisis not just a possible and likely and potential crisis?

You must do as science says; never say a crisis will happen, only could happen.

Science has never agreed or said any crisis WILL actually happen, so why are you remaining believers saying it WILL happen? Who’s the fear mongering neocon now?

“EnvironMENTAList ”

Since: Feb 07

Near Detroit

#39190 Sep 15, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>Read it again. Your mind is not trained on science. It is obvious.
Good luck.
What you write is that science says a crisis WILL happen when science has NEVER said that. You doomers lie.

“8 point Buck”

Since: Sep 13

Location hidden

#39191 Sep 15, 2013
Global warming ain't ever going to be done with. You folks need to visit your local library and research global warming and you to will see that it is never ending.
gcaveman1

Laurel, MS

#39192 Sep 15, 2013
mememine69 wrote:
How is science agreeing for 28 years that a CO2 crisis only could happen, not WILL happen supposed to be a consensus of anything? No wonder we have deniers so why doesn't science end this costly debate now and agree it will be an inevitable crisis not just a possible and likely and potential crisis?
You must do as science says; never say a crisis will happen, only could happen.
Science has never agreed or said any crisis WILL actually happen, so why are you remaining believers saying it WILL happen? Who’s the fear mongering neocon now?
"remaining believers"

I love it! You're about as far removed from reality as a denierbot can get.

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#39193 Sep 15, 2013
Mothra wrote:
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Do you have a comprehension problem, or are you unable to resist being a jackass?
True or False:
Global warming proponents would make more 'news' by proclaiming a weather event wasn't due to global warming.
Think hard -- I know that's painful for you.
The problem with that is, your lot dismiss ANY event no matter how big or small as evidence that the effect of warming has already arrived. Floods in Europe, China, Australia etc all based on a huge amount of water (record breaking amounts) dropped in a small amount of time. Then if there is drought in a area where high rainfall is expected that's dismissed as well. So what will it take to admit there is a "enemy at the gates" which at the moment is you.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#39194 Sep 15, 2013
mememine69 wrote:
<quoted text>What you write is that science says a crisis WILL happen when science has NEVER said that. You doomers lie.
LIAR. What are you quoting from me or science?

Your posts inform us of your lunacy.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#39195 Sep 15, 2013
Furthermore... Reefs in Florida and the Caribbean were once dominated by these beautiful, branching elkhorn and staghorn corals, but now the species face steep declines due to bleaching from increasing ocean temperatures, pressures from disease, fishing, and pollution, and impacts from ocean acidification.[summitcountyvoi ce]
Mothra

United States

#39196 Sep 15, 2013
OzRitz wrote:
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The problem with that is, your lot dismiss ANY event no matter how big or small as evidence that the effect of warming has already arrived. Floods in Europe, China, Australia etc all based on a huge amount of water (record breaking amounts) dropped in a small amount of time. Then if there is drought in a area where high rainfall is expected that's dismissed as well. So what will it take to admit there is a "enemy at the gates" which at the moment is you.
Such hypocrisy.

During the winter warmists are quick to point out that 'weather' isn't 'climate', so record cold events aren't evidence of cooling.

But during the summer, they are.

btw, I notice you didn't answer my question. Warmists cannot concede any argument.

That just demonstrates how fragile their theory is, and that it's more a 'belief' than "science".
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#39197 Sep 15, 2013
I had a denier try to tell me the Earth was cooling.

I ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice Chianti.

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#39198 Sep 15, 2013
An Asian answer to questions that to deniers always ask regardless of previous answers given.
So I call them loop questions, BrianG is the biggest offender and the rest are not far behind.
What is apparent, that countries that don't have a fox news or a Rush Limpburger to deal with view the climate with the only tools they have and that is life experience which is one thing they can't deny.

Three out of four Asians say the weather has become hotter and less predictable in the past decade as a result of climate change, prompting job changes, migration and lifestyle adaptation, a study shows.

In India, one of the world’s biggest producers of wheat, sugar and rice, most respondents said shifting weather patterns have led to water shortages, reduced agricultural productivity and loss of income, according to the study released today by Climate Asia, a project backed by the British Broadcasting Corp.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediaaction/where_we_wor...
litesong

Snohomish, WA

#39199 Sep 15, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
I had a denier try to tell me the Earth was cooling.
I ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice Chianti.
First, how long can toxic topix AGW deniers live without a liver? Forever...... they're toxic.

Second, you sure Hannibal won't come after you for stealing his material?
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#39200 Sep 15, 2013
Mothra wrote:
<quoted text>
Such hypocrisy.
During the winter warmists are quick to point out that 'weather' isn't 'climate', so record cold events aren't evidence of cooling.
But during the summer, they are.
btw, I notice you didn't answer my question. Warmists cannot concede any argument.
That just demonstrates how fragile their theory is, and that it's more a 'belief' than "science".
I'm posting this just to piss you off...

The Boulder, Colo. area is reeling after being inundated by record rainfall, with more than half a year’s worth of rain falling over the past three days. During those three days, 24-hour rainfall totals of between 8 and 10 inches across much of the Boulder area were enough to qualify this storm as a 1 in 1,000 year event, meaning that it has a 0.1 percent chance of occurring in a given year.

Climate Central
litesong

Snohomish, WA

#39201 Sep 15, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
You're(me me me getting mine in the 69 position) about as far removed from reality as a denierbot can get.
Yes, his name, "me me me getting mine in the 69 position", shows it is removed from reality.
LessHypeMoreFact

Etobicoke, Canada

#39202 Sep 15, 2013
Mothra wrote:
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Such hypocrisy.
Telling on yourself now?
Mothra wrote:
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During the winter warmists are quick to point out that 'weather' isn't 'climate', so record cold events aren't evidence of cooling.
Summer OR Winter. A cold day is NOT evidence of anything except the seasonal changes. And no. Warm and cool days don't say anything about global warming OR cooling. But science does find the global average temperature of the surface and that is warming which is the 'scientific evidence' on that issue.
Mothra wrote:
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But during the summer, they are.
Nonsense. And the issue is the prevalence of climate EXTREMES, not day to day weather as evidence of climate change probably caused by AGW warming.

I realize that you are uneducated and probably confuse the two issues.
Mothra wrote:
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btw, I notice you didn't answer my question. Warmists cannot concede any argument.
The clueless and easily led are the primary 'consumers' of fossil fuel propaganda and junk science. They tend to be your 'arguments' and nobody should 'concede' to crap.
Mothra wrote:
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That just demonstrates how fragile their theory is, and that it's more a 'belief' than "science".
What is more relevant is the total lack of any reference to scientific papers on YOUR part. The refusal to look at science as the 'best current understanding' and seek opinions, politic and silly claims is the heart of your problem.

P.S. if AGW theory is so 'fragile' why are you STILL trying to kill it and how do you rebut the support for it in both climate researchers and scientific academies. Obviously this is just more of your 'big lie' spam.
LessHypeMoreFact

Etobicoke, Canada

#39203 Sep 15, 2013
litesong wrote:
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Yes, his name, "me me me getting mine in the 69 position", shows it is removed from reality.
His 'biography' shows how little he knows of science.

MeMeMine69:
Male, Age: 56, London Ontario, UglyVille
About Me:
I’m an award winning playwright, actor, failed comedian, budding screenplay writer, horticulturist, husband to the best lady in the world, father of a lovely daughter, and I’ve worked in the same place for thirty years; Springbank Park.

He calls his home town 'Uglyville' yet has lived there three decades?
Mothra

United States

#39204 Sep 15, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm posting this just to piss you off...
The Boulder, Colo. area is reeling after being inundated by record rainfall, with more than half a year’s worth of rain falling over the past three days. During those three days, 24-hour rainfall totals of between 8 and 10 inches across much of the Boulder area were enough to qualify this storm as a 1 in 1,000 year event, meaning that it has a 0.1 percent chance of occurring in a given year.
Climate Central
Sorry, doesn't piss me off at all.

But I do appreciate you owning up to the hypocrisy of the warmists.

Good for you.

“EnvironMENTAList ”

Since: Feb 07

Near Detroit

#39205 Sep 15, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>LIAR. What are you quoting from me or science?
Your posts inform us of your lunacy.
Oh, sorry, my bad. I thought you were a climate change believer. Never mind then.

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