Once slow-moving threat, global warmi...

Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt...

There are 63619 comments on the Newsday story from Dec 14, 2008, titled Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt.... In it, Newsday reports that:

When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, global warming was a slow-moving environmental problem that was easy to ignore.

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SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#39105 Sep 12, 2013
A nation-wide dog and pony show... becomes international on topix.. iow, world-wide... wow lol
Fun Facts

Huntsville, AL

#39106 Sep 12, 2013
kristy wrote:
<quoted text>
Now that's really interesting. Just asking...what about Svenmark's theory....We have really low sun spots, increased cosmic rays which leads to clouds and cooling. Do you think this could have the same amount of cooling effect as Pinatubo?
Yes. It is the size of the heliosphere that impacts the access of cosmic rays to our system. When solar activity is low the heliosphere is smaller than when solar activity is high. The same impact is present in our earth's magnetic field.
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#39107 Sep 12, 2013
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text> why are you so paranoid

science isn't on your side....even if you insist that it is.
just admit that you don't know anymore than anyone else.
you lack the intellectual honesty and do not possess the 'high ground'.
LOL
I must say, for such a "lame article", it sure got you stirred up! I don't think you're laughing either, much less LOL.

In fact, your reply shows just how totally accurate that article was!

Why don't you tell us:

why you worry about unfounded theories?

how science isn't on our side....even if we insist that it is?

why the science isn't clear to you?

how the "97% peer reviewed support" is a myth and a proven lie?

Sounds like your question about my home state is an attempt at an ad hominem; but your whole diatribe is nothing but a political, cowardly piece of tripe.

lol yourself.
B as in B S as in S

Eden Prairie, MN

#39108 Sep 12, 2013
Here are the "FACTS" according to those who place their faith in "The Experts":
Experts say the climate is warming at an alarming rate.
Experts say the models predicted this rate/warming.
Experts say the forecasts were too conservative.
Experts say the warming is Man made.
Experts say this causes "positive feedback".
Experts say this will lead to a "tipping point"
Experts say this will lead to Climate Disruption (CD).
Experts say this CD could destroy life on Earth...
B as in B S as in S

Eden Prairie, MN

#39109 Sep 12, 2013
Here are the "FACTS" according to those who place their faith in "The Experts":
Experts say the Global Warming is Man made.
Experts say the climate is warming at an alarming rate.
Experts say the models predicted this rate/warming.
Experts say the forecasts were too conservative.
Experts say this Man made warming causes "positive feedback".
Experts say this will lead to a "tipping point"
Experts say this will lead to Climate Disruption (CD).
Experts say this CD could destroy life on Earth...

-that's better.

“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#39110 Sep 12, 2013
Tex Oil Fields wrote:
<quoted text>
Did you mean to say,
"I'm bad; I'm nationwide"?
You will only get it if you know the song and band.
that's why i said it!:-D zz always been one of my favorites.

“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#39111 Sep 12, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
<quoted text>
I must say, for such a "lame article", it sure got you stirred up! I don't think you're laughing either, much less LOL.
In fact, your reply shows just how totally accurate that article was!
Why don't you tell us:
why you worry about unfounded theories?
how science isn't on our side....even if we insist that it is?
why the science isn't clear to you?
how the "97% peer reviewed support" is a myth and a proven lie?
Sounds like your question about my home state is an attempt at an ad hominem; but your whole diatribe is nothing but a political, cowardly piece of tripe.
lol yourself.
how you figure i'm worked up, son? LOL

the article is tripe.LOL

i don't worry about unfounded theories....i expose them. you should know that by now! LOL

science doesn't take sides, son, so stop claiming you have it and any facts, okay?! LOL

97% of the respondents weren't used for starters. there answers were distorted, too. or did you not actually read the survey? LOL

naw....i like your state, but people like you deserve to be the butt of jokes. LOL
B as in B S as in S

Eden Prairie, MN

#39112 Sep 12, 2013
Stop it you guys... independent and creative thinking is an unfair advantage for those who religiously bestow their faith upon the 'chosen ones', better known as 'Climate Scientists".
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#39113 Sep 12, 2013
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>how you figure i'm worked up, son? LOL
the article is tripe.LOL
i don't worry about unfounded theories....i expose them. you should know that by now! LOL
science doesn't take sides, son, so stop claiming you have it and any facts, okay?! LOL
97% of the respondents weren't used for starters. there answers were distorted, too. or did you not actually read the survey? LOL
naw....i like your state, but people like you deserve to be the butt of jokes. LOL
I haven't seen you exposing anything but your ignorance, certainly not any real climate science.

I haven't seen any facts from you either, though you brag about having some, somewhere.

What respondents weren't used? Show us the distortions in their answers.

A big, fat zero from you........AGAIN!
dont drink the koolaid

Eden Prairie, MN

#39114 Sep 12, 2013
When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, global warming was a slow-moving environmental problem that was easy to ignore.
20 years later science is looking for missing heat... and this week so am I.
Freeze warnings??? It was in the 90's just a couple of days ago.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#39115 Sep 12, 2013
MN is very dry..

ST. PAUL, Minn.(AP)- Hot, dry weather is putting stress on pastures across Minnesota.

The U.S. Department of Agriculture says in its weekly crops and weather report for Minnesota that soil moisture supplies continue to decline. Almost one-third of the state's topsoil and 23% of its subsoil is rated very short.

Many parts of the state received no rain last week, and the statewide average was only 0.05 inches. Meanwhile, the state's average temperature was 4.4 degrees above normal at 66.9 degrees.

Nearly half the state's pastures are rated in poor to very poor condition. Corn and soybean conditions are both rated 51% good or excellent.

Minnesota's sweet corn harvest advanced 14%age points to 70% complete, but remains behind the normal 76% for this time.
dont drink the koolaid

Eden Prairie, MN

#39116 Sep 12, 2013
"Well partner, jus' goes to show ya- y'all are lookin' at further validation of "The Anthropogenic Carbon Dioxide Driven Catastrophic Global Climate Disruption Orthodoxy."
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#39117 Sep 12, 2013
dont drink the koolaid wrote:
"Well partner, jus' goes to show ya- y'all are lookin' at further validation of "The Anthropogenic Carbon Dioxide Driven Catastrophic Global Climate Disruption Orthodoxy."
You are drinking again.

The theory does hold, the deniers fold.
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#39118 Sep 12, 2013
dont drink the koolaid wrote:
When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, global warming was a slow-moving environmental problem that was easy to ignore.
20 years later science is looking for missing heat... and this week so am I.
Freeze warnings??? It was in the 90's just a couple of days ago.
Nothing real unusual about that, Garrison would say.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#39119 Sep 12, 2013
Nothing really unusual about that, Garrison Keillor, the English major could say.
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#39120 Sep 12, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
Nothing really unusual about that, Garrison Keillor, the English major could say.
Touche'.

OK, earthling......;)
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#39121 Sep 12, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Touche'.
OK, earthling......;)
Awww it hurt!

English majors unite,:-D

“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#39122 Sep 12, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
<quoted text>
I haven't seen you exposing anything but your ignorance, certainly not any real climate science.
I haven't seen any facts from you either, though you brag about having some, somewhere.
What respondents weren't used? Show us the distortions in their answers.
A big, fat zero from you........AGAIN!
i've provided emails from participants disputing the cook interpretations many times ON THIS THREAD! go back and look. stop being a lazy, shoot from the hip, clod.

funny when someone from the magnolia state calls someone ignorant. based on your states history....that has to be at least a pot kettle thing!! LOL

btw....where do you pick up women besides family reunions?
know what girls from mississppi have in common with bears? they both lick their paws!

LOL
kristy

New Smyrna Beach, FL

#39123 Sep 13, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
MN is very dry..
ST. PAUL, Minn.(AP)- Hot, dry weather is putting stress on pastures across Minnesota.
The U.S. Department of Agriculture says in its weekly crops and weather report for Minnesota that soil moisture supplies continue to decline. Almost one-third of the state's topsoil and 23% of its subsoil is rated very short.
Many parts of the state received no rain last week, and the statewide average was only 0.05 inches. Meanwhile, the state's average temperature was 4.4 degrees above normal at 66.9 degrees.
Nearly half the state's pastures are rated in poor to very poor condition. Corn and soybean conditions are both rated 51% good or excellent.
Minnesota's sweet corn harvest advanced 14%age points to 70% complete, but remains behind the normal 76% for this time.
You didn't state why the hot dry weather is putting stress on corn and soybeans:

From May 1, 2013:

While we all complain about the weather, farmers need cooperation from Mother Nature to make their money, and the cool spring has pushed back planting of this year’s sweet corn.

Some experts claim that will mean a smaller crop and corn that’s more vulnerable to damage from summer heat.

“You’ve got to be an optimist to be in this business,” said Jerry Untiedt, owner of Untiedt’s Vegetable Farm.

Untiedt has farmed Minnesota for more than 40 years, and he said this year has been challenging — it’s the latest his farm has ever planted sweet corn.

“April 24 was our previous late date,” Untiedt said.“We don’t plant until ice is off the lakes. That didn’t happen here until Monday, April 29.”

http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2013/05/01/cold...
Mothra

United States

#39124 Sep 13, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
MN is very dry..
>>Ann Althouse makes a great point today with regard to a UK Guardian story entitled, "That snow outside is what global warming looks like," which has as its tendentious point that all that cold and snow in Britain this winter doesn't disprove global warming. Althouse says simply (and devastatingly) that "when everything is evidence of the thing you want to believe, it might be time to stop pretending you're all about science."

Althouse doesn't say it precisely, but what she's talking about is actually a fundamental premise in the philosophy of science (via Karl Popper), namely, that scientific fact has to be "falsifiable," i.e., there has to be some evidence that, if true, would make the theory false. If all evidence can be incorporated in the theory -- much like everything can be described as "God's will," or by the phrase "God works in mysterious ways," or "God can do anything" -- then you are not talking about science, but religion. If warmth is evidence of global warming, and cold is evidence of global warming -- or, in England, if no snow = global warming and snow = global warming -then global warming is not science anymore, it's a faith system. And, like any faith system, its arguments of late have often boiled down to demanding that heretics be silenced.

http://theregularguybelieves.blogspot.com/201...

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