Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt...

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When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, global warming was a slow-moving environmental problem that was easy to ignore.
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Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Name calling isn't rational argument; this is where we differ. If you don't like my point of view, cite an experimental test of climate change mitigation and I'll stop posting.
What would it take to change your mind?
Where we differ is I would change my mind if the evidence was against me; you won't change yours however many times you are presented with evidence. In fact the repetition of illogical arguments is the tool of your trade: trolling.

Name calling is perfectly rational when faced with someone who deserves it as richly as you do.

Clutch those pearls, bri, they're all you have.
A troll wants to cause a commotion and get people ranting and raving because they want their presence on a forum or comments thread to be the main focus. They want the spotlight and attention on them.

To do this they will disrupt the flow of conversation, provoke fellow commenters and/or post abusive statements to inflame a response.

Often they will play devils advocate, vigorously defending statements or positions they know to be illogical or untrue in an attempt to get people riled up.
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Earthling-1 wrote:
Another thread from 2008.
In the meantime, Glowbull warming has slowed down, but catastrophists haven't noticed.
Just like the decline in Arctic sea ice slowed down, and the rate of sea level rise slowed down.

Deniers never tire of being wrong.

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May 13, 2013
 
The Irony of melting ice caps means Nations fighting over Oil rights underneath only making the problem even worse. When is rational thinking ever going to sink in.
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The melting of three ice-covered areas -- the Arctic, Antarctic and the Himalayas -- already is having fundamental consequences for extreme weather patterns, according to Grimsson, who cited the US superstorm Sandy and China's latest winter, which was the coldest in almost three decades.

“When the ice sheet melts away, you are confronted with a whole series of unexpected and far-reaching scenarios that will generate conflict and strife,” said Hans Joachim Schellnhuber, a climate scientist and director of the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research.“The unabated rate at which the globe is warming has far-reaching foreign policy implications.”
Retired Farmer

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Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
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You are again correct to a point. However mores change with time. We have seen a general acceptance of divorse even by the so called Bible Belt. Dancing and playing cards were tabu in the past by the majority of Christian organizations in the US but it is generally accepted to frequent casinoes today and divorce carries little or no stigma.
The bundled perception by the Republicans was necessary for them to gain office for some time. They must fabricate that the Democrats are equally bundled on the opposition. However, neither is really that polarized except in political circles. Personally, I would like to see a middle of the road political party emerge from the fray, but understand that with the necessity of gaining support, they are at a great disadvantage because the big lobbiests have things as they wish. The rest of us have a choice of fiddle de or fiddle dum. No outsider has been able to get a toehold.
If you think the Bible Belt has changed that much, just try getting up a local option referendum to repeal Prohibition in a dry county in Kentucky!
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The Reliably Vacuous SpaceCase wrote:

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Troll. Ignore.

"Flagging trolls until Topix lets you killfile the scum."
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May 13, 2013
 
SpaceBlues wrote:
Teddy 'are' split into no-personality trolls.
Boring!
I love this post!
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SpaceBlues wrote:
Teddy 'are' split into no-personality trolls.
Boring!
Actually, Teddy R hosts a bot that autonomously flags recidivist bandwidth-wasting topix trolls with nothing constructive to say, providing a canned response on the same level they've posted. Saves much time and trouble - one click and they're dispensed with no tribble at all.

Of course, a much more elegant solution would be for Topix themselves to provide users with select "killfile" functionality so such goobers and spam can simply be filtered out of the feed altogether, upgrading the Topix conversation quality radically, but until they pull their head out and provide this, users will have to provide their own kill-bots to take out the trash, I suppose.

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Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
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Oh Teddy, we have been through this several times on Topix. Our government is not a pure democracy but it is still a democratic form of government ala a democratic republic. BTW, the "intrusion" of the Federal Government was determined by the Civil War. Of course we must be vigilant in making sure that the government does not intrude on our civil liberties. That is why we have three independent departments of the Federal Government. The Supreme Court has the final say if they find the government is infringing on our rights. Of course, as in any human endeavour, it is not a perfect union, but it is self correcting if citizens think independently and exercise their voting rights.
BTW, if police power is to utilize "the power any government relies upon to enforce its authority", one must be careful to not sucumb to the false ravings of abject media whose only motive is to gain subscribers no matter what the cost is to the nation. We must not undermine the ability of the government to maintain civil authority. Of course one must subject the law enforcement to the principles of the constitution. That is the job of our justice system. It has done pretty well so far but we must exercise our intellect and power of ballot to maintain.
We agree in principle.
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The Reliably Vacuous SpaceCase wrote:
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Troll. Ignore.

"Flagging trolls until Topix lets you killfile the scum."
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May 13, 2013
 
Teddy 'are' "no tribble at all."

P.S. All from its trolling. LOL.
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[QUOTE who="lyin' brian"]Name calling isn't rational argument;[/QUOTE]

HOWEVER, "lyin' brian" knows slimy steenking filthy vile reprobate rooting(& rotting) racist pukey proud pigisms AND 4 alleged & 4 proud threats, caused some AGW advocates to leave toxic topix. So "lyin' brian" did such.
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#35820
May 13, 2013
 
Teddy 'are' to read this:

Sir Brian Hoskins, the head of climate change at the UK-based Royal Society, told BBC News he hoped the milestone would “jolt governments into action” and increase efforts to battle global warming.

Likewise, World Wildlife Fund chief scientist Jon Hoekstra told Rice the news is “a sobering reminder that the planet we know today will not be the planet we know tomorrow,” and Prof Rajendra Pachauri, chair of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), told The Guardian,“We must hope that the world crossing this milestone will bring about awareness of the scientific reality of climate change and how human society should deal with the challenge.”
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May 13, 2013
 
And this:

Global warming will destroy more than half of the habitats of most plants and a third of animals by 2080, biologists conclude, unless steps are taken to limit greenhouse gases.

Over the past century, average global surface temperatures have increased about 1.4 degrees Fahrenheit, according to the National Academy of Sciences. This global warming is largely due to burning fossil fuels, such as coal, oil and natural gas, which retain heat and warm the atmosphere. Temperatures worldwide are expected to rise roughly 7 degrees by 2100 if the use of fossil fuels continues without attempts to mitigate their effects.

Without mitigation, "large range contractions can be expected even amongst common and widespread species," concludes the study led by Rachel Warren of the United Kingdom's University of East Anglia. It was published in the journal Nature Climate Change.

In the study, biologists and climate researchers looked at the effects of these increasing temperatures on the living space of 48,786 animal and plant species worldwide. "With no mitigation, the climate becomes particularly unsuitable for both plants and animals in sub-Saharan Africa, Central America, Amazonia and Australia."

Overall, the study finds that 57% of plants and 34% of animals will see their habitats cut by 50% or more by 2080, as temperature changes make them unsuitable for the species. Given warming that has already occurred, some of those losses are locked in already, but they could be reduced by 60% if greenhouse gas emissions were to peak in 2016, the study shows.

"The terrifying loss of biodiversity predicted by this study shows that climate chaos will fundamentally transform our planet," Shaye Wolf of the Center for Biological Diversity, a conservation group, says in a statement on the study. "We need to cut emissions now, before our ecosystems suffer catastrophic damage."
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[QUOTE who="lyin' brian"]I claim many alarmists can't tell the truth from a lie.[/QUOTE]

I claim that "lyin' brian" has no science, chemistry, astronomy, physics, algebra & pre-calc in its poorly earned hi skule DEE-plooomaa, has no science or mathematics degrees & can't & hasn't write a science paper to present for science critique or peer-review.

Of course, my claim is true, as other claims I have made against 'lyin' brian' are true.

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Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Name calling isn't rational argument; this is where we differ. If you don't like my point of view, cite an experimental test of climate change mitigation and I'll stop posting.
What would it take to change your mind?
Actually, a perfectly rational post may contain much name-calling, while a post with NO name-calling whatsoever could be utterly absurd and ill-informed.

As it is with YOUR posts, assclown...:)

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Troll. Ignore.

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Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>^^^I claim many alarmists can't tell the truth from a lie. See the post above as proof. They refuse to argue the point and cite any experimental test for climate change mitigation. See the post above for proof.
The title of the thread is "Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving little time for Obama to act."

Nothing there about "mitigating" anything. Do you understand the meaning of the word? Note: I did NOT ask if you could cite a dictionary definition...I asked if you UNDERSTOOD it.

The term "alarmist" is itself an ad hominem, so clearly hypocrisy is a problem for you.

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Earthling-1 wrote:
Another thread from 2008.
In the meantime, Glowbull warming has slowed down, but catastrophists haven't noticed.
Back again with more brilliant, mature insights I see. Evidence that "global warming has slowed down," please?

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Teddy R wrote:
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Actually, Teddy R hosts a bot that autonomously flags recidivist bandwidth-wasting topix trolls with nothing constructive to say, providing a canned response on the same level they've posted. Saves much time and trouble - one click and they're dispensed with no tribble at all.
Of course, a much more elegant solution would be for Topix themselves to provide users with select "killfile" functionality so such goobers and spam can simply be filtered out of the feed altogether, upgrading the Topix conversation quality radically, but until they pull their head out and provide this, users will have to provide their own kill-bots to take out the trash, I suppose.
Teddy's problem, though, apart from referring to himself in the third person, is that his supposed "bot" only attacks posts from the Global Warming side of the debate, despite the fact that Brian_G is the biggest troll on these threads and is a Denier.

Teddy appears to be disingenuous at best, and a lying troll himself at worst.

Now go ahead, Teddy's "bot," and call for a killfile for me...LOL
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The best overall story on climate change that I have read so far:

http://www.jewishjournal.com/marty_kaplan/art...

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