Once slow-moving threat, global warmi...

Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt...

There are 58883 comments on the Newsday story from Dec 14, 2008, titled Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt.... In it, Newsday reports that:

When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, global warming was a slow-moving environmental problem that was easy to ignore.

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gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#35466 Apr 30, 2013
mememine69 wrote:
Climate change believers are cold hearted bullies who fear monger our children with their CO2 death threats all because science says their crisis only “MIGHT” happen because science has never said it WILL happen in 28 years. Even Bush didn’t threaten my kids like this. Who’s the neocon?
So how close to the brink will science take us before they say their crisis is as inevitable as they like to say asteroid hits are?
You are the one endangering your kids with your denial.
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#35467 Apr 30, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text> I'm hopeful that you and your community will have peace and progress.
You write so well; a book could help, too..:)
Thank you, Space, you are too kind.

My novel is in the works. My ass just needs to get with it.
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#35468 Apr 30, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>Excellent.
Thanks for telling it like it is. That poster mindlessly posts the same lies year after year. You can see those posts even six or seven years ago in these threads.
Yes, I've had to remind him to update his 26 years...27 years....28 years.... He forgets; obviously doesn't keep track but only concentrates on vomiting the same tired "message".
litesong

Everett, WA

#35469 Apr 30, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
If you are having trouble figuring out whether or not a certain area of your property is actually a wetland.....
http://www.ecy.wa.gov/programs/sea/pubs/90031...
Hey, I'm in Washington state. We got wetlands...... even down to the frogs croaking in the back 40.
litesong

Everett, WA

#35470 Apr 30, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Showing your ignorance again.
I'm not gonna run out of water.
I have clear, clean air, on which the scents of honeysuckle and wisteria are now wafting. I have bountiful sunshine and nourishing rain. My bed has lain under the full moon shining into my bedroom....... crickets and tree frogs....... red tailed hawks
Where do you live, brain?
First,'lyin' brian' has no brain....... off-world relative (or genetic spawn) of dirtling, alias 'earthling has no brain', ya know.

We got what you got..... even the honeysuckle.
Not two redtails, tho.......two bald eagles. We had ospreys & redtails. But they nest far away, now that the eagles are here. Got views of 6000 foot mountains...... with 2500 foot, very steep cliffs in one of the newest wilderness areas....... the Wild Sky & one of the most entrancing wilderness areas...... the Alpine Lakes Wilderness.

Hey, try Google Earth. You can pilot yourself along the cliffs of Mt. Index & Mt. Baring. Fly between the buttresses of the north wall of Mt. Index. Meander through the ruggedness of Merchant Peak, Gunn Peak & Jump Off ridge. Of course, lots of other peaks, in the most wondrous Alpine Wilderness Area. Oh, yeah, the Monte Cristo Peaks are spectacular too.

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#35471 Apr 30, 2013
For those of you who still deny man's interference with the environment has no effect. Then watch this doco on PBS, the American dust bowl where greed and capitalism over reached. Then reflect on those same environmental questions you want to deny exists and ask are really being truthful with yourself!

The Invisible Man

Sanford, FL

#35472 May 1, 2013
testing.
Moved Around

Paducah, KY

#35473 May 1, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
<quoted text>
I would like to see how that would work. I mean, do you think that the government would make you dig a basement at the point of a gun?
No. But cities, counties, etc. can and do enact building codes. I once lived in a town in the west that required that every new house built have a storm shelter. If you didn't build it, you did not get a building permit.
Moved Around

Paducah, KY

#35474 May 1, 2013
You will never sell the idea of "Global Warming" in Coal country.

This from the Pineville, KY, Topix forum thread called "Our coal miners need JOBS!!!":

"Coal was meant to be mined ! Let them mine it ! Other countries are mining coal .if this was a worldwide campaign to stop coal then why just us ? The "green wind blowers" are making money from Obama then just drifting from town to town. Obama is going to weaken the American dollar so much it will take every dime a man has to buy bread. That is what is coming to . There isn't going to be a workforce to keep up this country much longer . Obama is will take our weapons , our energy , our economy then leave this country. I think he has set us up for the greatest fall in American History ! If you think Hillary Clinton is different -she is not ! Clinton sold out and her husband caused our banks to fall because of deregulation ! She said one that Obama had no experience she was right then she sold out . She seems brainwashed and Clinton he never told the truth did he ? Clinton is "the great embellisher" !"
litesong

Everett, WA

#35475 May 1, 2013
bowel movement-re-pubic-lick-un wrote:
"Coal was meant to be mined...... Obama is will take our weapons , our energy , our economy ......Hillary Clinton sold out and her husband caused our banks to fall......
"bowel movement-re-pubic-lick-un " is so rabid, it licks its bowel movement. "bowel movement-re-pubic-lick-un " says, coal was 'MEANT TO BE MINED BY BLACK LUNG INFECTED COAL MINORS' AND the coal pollution spread to water sources, water tables, pristine mountain valleys, & tall smokestacks are supposed to spread the happy pollution to other states. Mine coal, send it to china(leaving a trail of coal dust & derailed coal cars throughout many other pristine mountain, valley, lake & sea environments) & then let the communist chinese(ALWAYS SMALL LETTERS) send coal-burning pollution into the Pacific Ocean & across America, where 10% of american pollution comes from communist china(ALWAYS SMALL LETTERS).

"bowel movement-re-pubic-lick-un " needs to remain on the pot to get rid of its pollutions, but that'll take a lifetime.

“fairtax.org”

Since: Dec 08

gauley bridge wv

#35476 May 1, 2013
Interesting graph.

climate4youGlobalTemperatures/ CentralEnglandairtemperaturesi nce1659

“Stop the Brain Rot”

Since: Jan 12

Take a Looonng Vacation

#35478 May 1, 2013
Moved Around wrote:
You will never sell the idea of "Global Warming" in Coal country.
This from the Pineville, KY, Topix forum thread called "Our coal miners need JOBS!!!":
"Coal was meant to be mined ! Let them mine it ! Other countries are mining coal .if this was a worldwide campaign to stop coal then why just us ? The "green wind blowers" are making money from Obama then just drifting from town to town. Obama is going to weaken the American dollar so much it will take every dime a man has to buy bread. That is what is coming to . There isn't going to be a workforce to keep up this country much longer . Obama is will take our weapons , our energy , our economy then leave this country. I think he has set us up for the greatest fall in American History ! If you think Hillary Clinton is different -she is not ! Clinton sold out and her husband caused our banks to fall because of deregulation ! She said one that Obama had no experience she was right then she sold out . She seems brainwashed and Clinton he never told the truth did he ? Clinton is "the great embellisher" !"
Hatred is very American, and of course in coal country they're probably none too keen on a nee-gro in the White House either.
Retired Farmer

Crofton, KY

#35479 May 1, 2013
I am not a coal miner nor am I a supporter of coal, but you have to admit that coal's hold on the economy of the U.S.A. is enormous. Its political power in KY is even larger.

A Kentucky license plate:

http://www.plateshack.com/y2k/Kentucky2/ky201...

There is in fact ten times more coal being mined now than there was in 1960, but only a tenth as many miners are doing the work. Machines have replaced men, but you cannot convince most miners of that no mater what statistics you show them. That is because the coal companies, some of them foreign owned, have such a hold on their thinking through propaganda.
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#35480 May 1, 2013
litesong wrote:
<quoted text>
First,'lyin' brian' has no brain....... off-world relative (or genetic spawn) of dirtling, alias 'earthling has no brain', ya know.
We got what you got..... even the honeysuckle.
Not two redtails, tho.......two bald eagles. We had ospreys & redtails. But they nest far away, now that the eagles are here. Got views of 6000 foot mountains...... with 2500 foot, very steep cliffs in one of the newest wilderness areas....... the Wild Sky & one of the most entrancing wilderness areas...... the Alpine Lakes Wilderness.
Hey, try Google Earth. You can pilot yourself along the cliffs of Mt. Index & Mt. Baring. Fly between the buttresses of the north wall of Mt. Index. Meander through the ruggedness of Merchant Peak, Gunn Peak & Jump Off ridge. Of course, lots of other peaks, in the most wondrous Alpine Wilderness Area. Oh, yeah, the Monte Cristo Peaks are spectacular too.
Sounds nice. I'll check it out.
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#35481 May 1, 2013
Moved Around wrote:
<quoted text>
No. But cities, counties, etc. can and do enact building codes. I once lived in a town in the west that required that every new house built have a storm shelter. If you didn't build it, you did not get a building permit.
Building permits usually imply that you will comply with local and national codes. If you and like-minded people don't like them, get politicized and try to change them. Majority rules.

They must have had a reason for that local code. I understand that in Florida, they "force" people to greatly strengthen their new buildings. That's because building parts become missiles in hurricanes and if everyone builds stronger, there should be less destruction from the primary and secondary causes.
Retired Farmer

Crofton, KY

#35482 May 1, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Building permits usually imply that you will comply with local and national codes. If you and like-minded people don't like them, get politicized and try to change them. Majority rules.
They must have had a reason for that local code. I understand that in Florida, they "force" people to greatly strengthen their new buildings. That's because building parts become missiles in hurricanes and if everyone builds stronger, there should be less destruction from the primary and secondary causes.
That is pretty much what they are doing. It's the popular impetus behind the TEA Party and the Republican party's turn toward anti-regulation libertarianism.

There is not always a good reason for a particular building code. There have been efforts to ban solar panels on the roofs of houses simply because some people did not like the looks of them.

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#35483 May 1, 2013
Retired Farmer wrote:
I am not a coal miner nor am I a supporter of coal, but you have to admit that coal's hold on the economy of the U.S.A. is enormous. Its political power in KY is even larger.
A Kentucky license plate:
http://www.plateshack.com/y2k/Kentucky2/ky201...
There is in fact ten times more coal being mined now than there was in 1960, but only a tenth as many miners are doing the work. Machines have replaced men, but you cannot convince most miners of that no mater what statistics you show them. That is because the coal companies, some of them foreign owned, have such a hold on their thinking through propaganda.
It really doesn't matter, how many employed. The facts are someone, somewhere is burning that coal along with a gazillion cars on the planet burning fossil fuels every single day.

It is no different than all those farmers ploughing those fields back in the 30's creating that man made disaster in a previous post. It is the Capitalism machine that just keeps marching on no matter what the cost. The model has to change to give the Environment top shelf value in that machine or it will continue to feed on itself. If we ignore that, then it won't be just be your kids quality of life will be gone forever. It will be yours as well.
brrr its cold

Maringouin, LA

#35484 May 1, 2013
when you Yankees are freezing your ass off from the earliest cold winter yet, keep on believing in global warming!tell yourselves its not really that cold because we have global warming?all gore told you that and hes a liberal so it has to be true?

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#35485 May 1, 2013
brrr its cold wrote:
when you Yankees are freezing your ass off from the earliest cold winter yet, keep on believing in global warming!tell yourselves its not really that cold because we have global warming?all gore told you that and hes a liberal so it has to be true?
Yeah we will all do that when you pick a book and learn what global warming is really all about and when you come to realise that its not about the day to day temps where you live but the over all temps of the planet. Then you might not be so amazed as to why you are freezing your a$$ off in spring.
SpaceBlues

Tomball, TX

#35487 May 1, 2013
brrr its cold wrote:
when you Yankees are freezing your ass off from the earliest cold winter yet, keep on believing in global warming!tell yourselves its not really that cold because we have global warming?all gore told you that and hes a liberal so it has to be true?
Contrary to a popular misconception, the rate of warming has not declined. Global temperature is rising as fast in the past decade as in the prior 2 decades, despite year-to-year
fluctuations associated with the El Niño-La Niña cycle of tropical ocean temperature.[Scientists]

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