Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt...

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When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, global warming was a slow-moving environmental problem that was easy to ignore.
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To give a small example how fragile the ocean environment is to rising temps. For one in Australia the Barrier reef is under threat. This is supposed to be one of the Natural Wonders of the world and its slowly being decimated due to rising ocean temps.

http://www.redorbit.com/news/science/1746722/...

Then the giant Kelp forests in Tasmania the island state of Australia. These are the largest in the world and have all but been wiped out by rising ocean temps and warm currents.
In some areas off the east coast of Tasmania they have shrunk by more than 95 per cent, according to CSIRO experts.

The threat is so serious Environment Minister Tony Burke has listed the forests as endangered - the first time a marine ecological community has been given such protection under federal environmental law.
''Giant kelp forests are being progressively lost due to a warming of the sea surface temperature caused by climate change, invasive species and changing land use and coastal activities that contribute to increased sedimentation and runoff and biodiversity loss,'' Mr Burke told The Saturday Age yesterday.

http://www.smh.com.au/environment/decimated-k...
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gcaveman1 wrote:
Why didn't Re-pub-lickums .......
Got to correct your spelling...... the correct way is,'re-pubic-lick-un'....... uncapitalized, even at the beginning of sentences......

Remember........they 'lick' each others 'pubics', over & over, that's where the 're' comes from. Lots to say in that word,'re-pubic-lick-un'.

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*Occupywallstreet does not even mention CO2 in its list of demands because of the bank-funded carbon trading stock markets run by corporations.

Not one IPCC warning says a CO2 catastrophic climate crisis is as real as a comet hit or an asteroid hit. Science has NEVER said it and refuses to say it.

Not one IPCC warning isn't swimming in "maybes".
Not one IPCC warning says a crisis is inevitable or eventual or imminent.
Not one IPCC warning says it "WILL" happen.
Not one IPCC warning explains the tropical fossils under both polar caps proving this climate of today has obviously happened before.
*Science only agrees it "might" happen after 28 years of research so 28 years of “maybe” proves it “WON’T” be a crisis.* Deny that.

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*Occupywallstreet does not even mention CO2 in its list of demands because of the bank-funded carbon trading stock markets run by corporations.
Not one IPCC warning says a CO2 catastrophic climate crisis is as real as a comet hit or an asteroid hit. Science has NEVER said it and refuses to say it.
Not one IPCC warning isn't swimming in "maybes".
Not one IPCC warning says a crisis is inevitable or eventual or imminent.
Not one IPCC warning says it "WILL" happen.
Not one IPCC warning explains the tropical fossils under both polar caps proving this climate of today has obviously happened before.
*Science only agrees it "might" happen after 28 years of research so 28 years of “maybe” proves it “WON’T” be a crisis.* Deny that.
When you are working it goes without saying you are also planning for your retirement. So indirectly trying to build a nest egg to cover the possibility of not dying the week after you retire. You are making an investment for living a long life. Its the same with the environment, giving it the same value that oil has or any other high priced commodity builds an economy in itself. Then you could buy your carbon credits and cash them in when you retire. Capitalism could drive the environment just like it does the consumer market but you have to give it value. Then all those alternative energy companies would prosper. It's easy done, it just needs the will power of ppl like you who have closed minds because it goes against their lifestyle. For instance if you bought a Mercedes a couple of years ago they paid all the carbon credits that car would emit for 3 yrs in the price. That's how the environment gets value. Then a farmer with a land full of mature trees is just as rich as the one who has the oil well.
What is so hard to understand about that, just because someone is green doesn't make them a hippie living in a cave. They could also be the next Bill Gates.
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litesong wrote:
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Got to correct your spelling...... the correct way is,'re-pubic-lick-un'....... uncapitalized, even at the beginning of sentences......
Remember........they 'lick' each others 'pubics', over & over, that's where the 're' comes from. Lots to say in that word,'re-pubic-lick-un'.
I forgot and it wasn't in the dictionary.

I know how to spell Republicants and Republicunts. They are all related. None of them know that "Democrat" is a noun and "Democratic" is an adjective.
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mememine69 wrote:
*Occupywallstreet does not even mention CO2 in its list of demands because of the bank-funded carbon trading stock markets run by corporations.
Not one IPCC warning says a CO2 catastrophic climate crisis is as real as a comet hit or an asteroid hit. Science has NEVER said it and refuses to say it.
Not one IPCC warning isn't swimming in "maybes".
Not one IPCC warning says a crisis is inevitable or eventual or imminent.
Not one IPCC warning says it "WILL" happen.
Not one IPCC warning explains the tropical fossils under both polar caps proving this climate of today has obviously happened before.
*Science only agrees it "might" happen after 28 years of research so 28 years of “maybe” proves it “WON’T” be a crisis.* Deny that.
1. Global warming is happening now.

2. Global warming is not inevitably a catastrophe. The world could wise up and avoid the worst.

3. I predict, however, that it will be a catastrophe.

4. Now you have someone who said it and you can blame me for killing your children.
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gcaveman1 wrote:
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A little learning is a dangerous thing.
What research? Who did this research and came to this ridiculous conclusion?
How many campfires would it take to equal the GHG output of all of the rest of civilization since 1850? You know, the coal burning power plants, the steel mills, the cars, trucks, trains, planes? Did you forget that primitive people have also set grassland and forest fires, either accidentally or on purpose?
Have you ever heard of critical thinking? I recommend it.
Is that you, Teener?
It is ridiculous to think people caused global warming then, just as it is ridiculous that people caused the prior warming when there were no people around. So why did the sea level rise 390 feet, and the Nebraska glaciers melt, both at a faster rate than now?
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All I can say is take your big a$$ truck and go live in Beijing for 12 mths doing the 3 hrs commute to work every day at 10 mph. Then decide that man cant do anything about climate change!
http://www.google.com.au/search...
It doesnt stop al gore.
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gcaveman1 wrote:
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1. Global warming is happening now.
2. Global warming is not inevitably a catastrophe. The world could wise up and avoid the worst.
3. I predict, however, that it will be a catastrophe.
4. Now you have someone who said it and you can blame me for killing your children.
Polly wants a cracker, polly wants a cracker, squaaaaaaaaack.

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It doesnt stop al gore.
Well maybe Big Al can afford his own forest to offset his carbon footprint from the private jets and limo's. I'm sure he would have offsets somewhere.

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al bore wrote:
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It doesnt stop al gore.
Anyway had Big Al won the Presidency as he should have done. Then there would have been no Iraq war and the money saved could have put solar panels on every American household. Not only that it would have save Billion$ on the over all debt. It's odd that all those from the right scream about the loss of Solyndra yet say nothing when Haliburton aka Chenney & co lose Billion$ that can't be accounted for during Iraq war. The sort of money that went missing then makes Solyndra look like pocket change. Yet nothing!
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Anyway had Big Al won the Presidency as he should have done. Then there would have been no Iraq war and the money saved could have put solar panels on every American household. Not only that it would have save Billion$ on the over all debt. It's odd that all those from the right scream about the loss of Solyndra yet say nothing when Haliburton aka Chenney & co lose Billion$ that can't be accounted for during Iraq war. The sort of money that went missing then makes Solyndra look like pocket change. Yet nothing!
maybe this, maybe that, the facts are, the people did not want fat AL. And he is a charlatan. I know you kiss his picture daily but that is of no matter. Maybe you can send more money to barry to pay for his projects. By the way, how many solar cells and wind turbines are at your home?

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maybe this, maybe that, the facts are, the people did not want fat AL. And he is a charlatan. I know you kiss his picture daily but that is of no matter. Maybe you can send more money to barry to pay for his projects. By the way, how many solar cells and wind turbines are at your home?
Just so happens i do have solar hot water and solar electric panels feeding back into the grid. Not that it is anything big but at least cuts my energy use by a third which is a better return than having money sitting in the bank looking for interest earnings these days.
No hybrid cars as yet but if gov put a huge tax on gas then thats the way i would go as well. Its just a matter of time.

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Global warming wasn't cars and energy, it was a 28 year old death threat to billions of children and thankfully a tragic exaggeration. The rest of you fear mongers can join the neocons.

Where have you been:
*Occupywallstreet does not even mention CO2 in its list of demands because of the bank-funded carbon trading stock markets run by corporations.
You won’t find one single scientific paper that says a climate crisis from Human CO2 is eventual or inevitable or imminent or “will” happen.
You won’t find one IPCC warning NOT swimming in maybes.
You won’t find one scientist that has ever said a climate crisis from CO2 is as sure and as real as an asteroid hit is.
So climate change according to science is “real” but not as real as a comet hit is and that was good enough to condemn your own children?

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It is ridiculous to think people caused global warming then, just as it is ridiculous that people caused the prior warming when there were no people around. So why did the sea level rise 390 feet, and the Nebraska glaciers melt, both at a faster rate than now?
That argument is like arguing that since CO2 has risen before when people were not on earth proves that people cannot cause CO2 to rise today.
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It is ridiculous to think people caused global warming then, just as it is ridiculous that people caused the prior warming when there were no people around. So why did the sea level rise 390 feet, and the Nebraska glaciers melt, both at a faster rate than now?
Look it up, dear.
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It doesnt stop al gore.
Callender is the one you want to blame for global warming.
You're dating yourself.
He's the one who started it.
You let big Al run right over you.
You've been GORED!
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There was a land bridge allowing people to walk to America, but since the sea level came up 390 feet, it is under water. There were glaciers all the way down into Nebraska. Research has shown that the first Americans caused the "faster than now" rise in sea level by having too many camp fires. It was an easy to prove since the camp fires were all the people had to increase CO2, and nothing else could of caused the sea level rise.
How old are you?

Did your mom tina write this?
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It is ridiculous to think people caused global warming then, just as it is ridiculous that people caused the prior warming when there were no people around. So why did the sea level rise 390 feet, and the Nebraska glaciers melt, both at a faster rate than now?
Did you move away from Norfolk, tina?

Paint your ceiling blue! hahaha

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Norse immigrant to Greenland froze to death and died off entirely in the 1300's after Erik The red took his people there to settle 300 years earlier. Yes, I know these am comfortable facts to globalist tax-hiking liars, but like all truths they only hurt the untruthful ones.

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