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#34612 Mar 17, 2013
cricket wrote:
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and to tax everyone into poverty to stop the fictitious mmcc/cc and transferring billions to the UN & armed forces (who are a major polluter) for more war, and continuing the billions in the transfer of wealth from all the regular hard working joes to the mega rich will surely help and change the weather.(rofl) Right?
I don't care what his or anyone elses title says- he's an idiot. Regurgitating what he's been told. Just like the religious ardent mmcc/cc believers here on Topix do,
A revenue-neutral carbon tax removes ZERO money from the economy & adds ZERO money to the government. It's arrantly absurd to claim it would tax us into poverty, or take money from rich countries & give it to poor countries.

A properly designed tax would take money from heavy carbon emitters & give it to low carbon emitters. It would hurt fossil fuel industries but help non-carbon-emitting energy sources to exactly the same extent.

It would be a difficult adjustment, but ultimately would benefit people. Removing ALL subsidies from the fossil fuel industries, & instituting a proper carbon tax, would mean no more need for subsidies to renewable energy industries, no need to try to select a successful Solyndra (which is not easy for government to do). The market, finally free & reflective of reality, could decide.

Of course telling the richest industry in the world that it should prepare to go virtually out of existence is extremely problematic at best. There has been, & will be, a tremendous amount of money spent to try to prevent the transition away from fossil fuels. So far they've been remarkably successful in confusing the public about AGW/CC & the necessity of reducing the burning of fossil fuels.

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#34613 Mar 18, 2013
HomoSapiensLaptopicus wrote:
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A revenue-neutral carbon tax removes ZERO money from the economy & adds ZERO money to the government. It's arrantly absurd to claim it would tax us into poverty, or take money from rich countries & give it to poor countries.
A properly designed tax would take money from heavy carbon emitters & give it to low carbon emitters. It would hurt fossil fuel industries but help non-carbon-emitting energy sources to exactly the same extent.
It would be a difficult adjustment, but ultimately would benefit people. Removing ALL subsidies from the fossil fuel industries, & instituting a proper carbon tax, would mean no more need for subsidies to renewable energy industries, no need to try to select a successful Solyndra (which is not easy for government to do). The market, finally free & reflective of reality, could decide.
Of course telling the richest industry in the world that it should prepare to go virtually out of existence is extremely problematic at best. There has been, & will be, a tremendous amount of money spent to try to prevent the transition away from fossil fuels. So far they've been remarkably successful in confusing the public about AGW/CC & the necessity of reducing the burning of fossil fuels.
Good Grief!!! The fact that he actually believes this garbage is the scary part.
PHD

Overton, TX

#34614 Mar 18, 2013
He must have an investment in it. No one could be that naive. Well you do have the spacedoutblues and the "pinheadlitesout that qualify.

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#34615 Mar 18, 2013
flack wrote:
<quoted text> Good Grief!!! The fact that he actually believes this garbage is the scary part.
Everything I said was absolutely correct. You, of course, wouldn't understand that. Try learning some science instead of political equine excrement from denier sources.

Why don't you try listening to James Hansen? After all, he was ABSOLUTELY CORRECT in 1981 about what would happen subsequently. We've seen exactly what he predicted then - years before others had caught on, a decade before the IPCC was even formed.



http://pubs.giss.nasa.gov/docs/1981/1981_Hans...
PHD

Overton, TX

#34616 Mar 18, 2013
WOW more scientific science fiction from the HOMO. Hay you link is not functioning.

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#34617 Mar 18, 2013
PHD wrote:
WOW more scientific science fiction from the HOMO. Hay you link is not functioning.
Gee, PHD, did you bother to listen to Dr Hansen's talk? Did you bother to read (or just look at) the Science article from 1981?

Surprise! Measured temperatures have been close to what Hansen et all predicted more than 30 years ago. In fact, measured temps have been a bit HIGHER than they predicted back then, or at least on the high end of their predicted range.

My links work FINE, BTW. You may have to have Flash player (not sure) for YouTube & Adobe Reader to see the pdf article. They're available for free & are not harmful.

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#34618 Mar 18, 2013
not true at all just cycles

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#34619 Mar 18, 2013
in my opinion

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#34620 Mar 18, 2013
but its hard to tell

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#34621 Mar 18, 2013
who knows

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#34622 Mar 18, 2013
i know

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#34623 Mar 18, 2013
just an oopinion dont worry about it
litesong

Everett, WA

#34624 Mar 18, 2013
fetid feces face flip flopper fiend wrote:
Hay(sic) you(sic) link is not functioning.
Sixx werds...... too mispelings.......'bout nermol fer "fetid feces face flip flopper fiend".

Link not functioning........'bout nermol fer "fetid feces face flip flopper fiend".
PHD

Overton, TX

#34625 Mar 19, 2013
litesong wrote:
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Sixx werds...... too mispelings.......'bout nermol fer "fetid feces face flip flopper fiend".
Link not functioning........'bout nermol fer "fetid feces face flip flopper fiend".
More useless diarrhea from the "pinheadlitesout".
PHD

Overton, TX

#34626 Mar 19, 2013
HomoSapiensLaptopicus wrote:
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Gee, PHD, did you bother to listen to Dr Hansen's talk? Did you bother to read (or just look at) the Science article from 1981?
Surprise! Measured temperatures have been
"close to"
what Hansen et all "predicted" more than 30 years ago. In fact, measured temps have been a bit HIGHER than they
"predicted"
back then, or at least on the high end of their
"predicted range".
My links work FINE, BTW. You may have to have Flash player (not sure) for YouTube & Adobe Reader to see the pdf article. They're available for free & are not harmful.
Well if I was interested in scientific science fiction your link may have worked. YYour own words make it scientific science fiction. Just before the super bowl game I predicted one team would win.

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#34627 Mar 19, 2013
PHD wrote:
<quoted text>More useless diarrhea from the "pinheadlitesout".
Top paid ad when you Google "global warming facts" is by Chevron. You may have a PHD so maybe facts aren't daunting and confusing to you. http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/...
Is National Geographic leftist? Arguing with you functioning retards is pointless. You live with either your heads in the sand or up your own ass. I can take a rock and show it to you. You can touch it and hold it. Feel its heft. I can then take the rock and smash your toes with it and say "that was a rock" and you will still say "no it wasn't." Same idiots that believe we are not in just the heginning of major climate change and that combustion engines /humans are major factors are the same ones that debate evolution and sex ed and the moron list goes on. Evolve or die. Better yet just hurry up and die off.
PHD

Overton, TX

#34628 Mar 19, 2013
dekajed wrote:
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Top paid ad when you Google "global warming facts" is by Chevron. You may have a PHD so maybe facts aren't daunting and confusing to you. http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/...
Is National Geographic leftist? Arguing with you functioning retards is pointless. You live with either your heads in the sand or up your own ass. I can take a rock and show it to you. You can touch it and hold it. Feel its heft. I can then take the rock and smash your toes with it and say "that was a rock" and you will still say "no it wasn't." Same idiots that believe we are not in just the heginning of major climate change and that combustion engines /humans are major factors are the same ones that debate evolution and sex ed and the moron list goes on. Evolve or die. Better yet just hurry up and die off.
You really really need to seek some mental help. Well one thing for sure I am functioning more than anyone could say for you. Have you always been a less-on or did you mutate into one?
Can you prove it was a rock?

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#34629 Mar 19, 2013
Another day passes without an experiment showing climate change mitigation or man made global warming. That brings their total experimental record up to ... zero.

When will you learn? Don't buy a pig in a poke, I thought you learned that in Kindergarten.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#34631 Mar 19, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
Another day passes without an experiment showing climate change mitigation or man made global warming. That brings their total experimental record up to ... zero.
When will you learn? Don't buy a pig in a poke, I thought you learned that in Kindergarten.
Science is not telling you!

Give it up.

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#34632 Mar 19, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
Science is not telling you! Give it up.
Ever notice how global warming alarmists are internet bullies who like telling you what to do?

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