Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt...

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When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, global warming was a slow-moving environmental problem that was easy to ignore.

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Teddy R

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<quoted text>Thanks for the reply.[I should catch up on those.]
And at that time foreigners were not raiding others' oil fields... yet.
Nope. Narcotic drugs rather than oil was the stock-in-trade. Poppy fields rather than oil fields. Swire. Jardine. Matheson. Massive fortunes amassed in trading opium (and, yes - tea, silk, and other commodities).

All the hand-wringing and wailing by the oil-obsessed today fades to a yawner when viewed in an historical context. We've seen wars fought and cultures destroyed over gold, silver, diamonds, opium, pot, cocaine ... today some say it's oil, tomorrow it'll be something else.
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Pierre wrote:
The world ends in 2 days!
For the 150,000 people who died within the last 24 hours, the world already ended.
Every heartbeat is a billion trillion miracles. Ain't life wonderful.
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Pierre wrote:
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The world ends in 2 days!
Can you specify a time and what to expect?
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Teddy R wrote:
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Nope. Narcotic drugs rather than oil was the stock-in-trade. Poppy fields rather than oil fields. Swire. Jardine. Matheson. Massive fortunes amassed in trading opium (and, yes - tea, silk, and other commodities).
All the hand-wringing and wailing by the oil-obsessed today fades to a yawner when viewed in an historical context. We've seen wars fought and cultures destroyed over gold, silver, diamonds, opium, pot, cocaine ... today some say it's oil, tomorrow it'll be something else.
Wow. You know more than I do about what you mentioned. Thanks much.

Now, there have been also misrepresentations like Columbus after spices.

However, there's always Iran.
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The Evidence - Electromagnetic Changes in our Solar System

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Troll. Ignored.
Hay when you respond your not ignoring. Sorry you’re another one that attended the one child left behind program. So that would again make you the commander TROLL!!
Are you going for the ignorant award? Your near that position.
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<quoted text>Hay when you respond your not ignoring. Sorry you’re another one that attended the one child left behind program. So that would again make you the commander TROLL!!
Are you going for the ignorant award? Your near that position.
Troll. Ignored.
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TrollBot wrote:
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Troll. Ignored.
Hay when you respond your not ignoring. Sorry you’re another one that attended the one child left behind program. So that would again make you the commander TROLL!!
Are you going for the ignorant award? Your near that position.

“dening those who deny nature. ”

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PHD wrote:
<quoted text>Well you are correct (I bet you never would say I would make that statement) But it's all about the money and toss in the sports thing they do well. Now that you recognize the issue you should be able to see your higher education short falls. Maybe you should start at a higher level with your education. That Pre K level thing would be a waste of time.
Actually, I did think that you would find at least one thing we could agree on. Just as litesong and I agree that ethanol in gasoline is a bad thing.

Also I will add a second degree in february and am looking at adding a third. It would only take less than a dozen courses to add the third.

“dening those who deny nature. ”

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I take tha bet.
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Your(sic) near that position.
The sun is presently 'near that position' farthest to the Earth's south, due to Earth's place in its orbit & precessional tilt.

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Actually, I did think that you would find at least one thing we could agree on. Just as litesong and I agree that ethanol in gasoline is a bad thing.
Also I will add a second degree in february and am looking at adding a third. It would only take less than a dozen courses to add the third.
What are some of the positives of ethanol for fuel? Saves on fossil fuels. It is an oxygenation. It increases the octane rating of gasoline without adding dangerous additives. When mixed with gasoline, it is a very good gum solvent and cleans the fuel injectors. Since it absorbs water, it dries gasoline and prevents gas line freezes. Since it is produced from growing crops, it adds much less CO2 into the atmosphere. It helps the farmers show a little more profit.

All that said, it would be better if it were produced from non food crops. Brazil is doing just fine with producing it from sugar cane.
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tina anne wrote:
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Actually, I did think that you would find at least one thing we could agree on. Just as litesong and I agree that ethanol in gasoline is a bad thing.
Also I will add a second degree in february and am looking at adding a third. It would only take less than a dozen courses to add the third.
Now if you can show all that you actually have a higher education than we would agree on would make two. At this point you are borderline high school 10th grade.
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What are some of the positives of ethanol for fuel? Saves on fossil fuels. It is an oxygenation.
With careful decades long records of mpg, two of our 3 cars, increased their mpg to 7 & even 8+%, when switched to 100% gasoline(ethanol-free). None of the 3 cars showed the low ethanol industry propagandistic 3% difference between 100% gasoline & 10% ethanol blends. Thousands of drivers report more mpg savings when running with 100% gasoline. As an oxygenator, ethanol decreases the pollutants of only one emission, but slightly increases the emissions of two or three other emissions. I don't care about farmers who sacrifice feeding humans to feed internal combustion engines for bigger bucks.
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Ethanol as used in present gasoline engines designed to run with 100% gasoline, does not get its best efficiency. Ethanol needs high compression engines, close to that of diesel engines, to gain its efficiency. That is why the high performance, high compression Indy cars work well with ethanol. But the 10% ethanol in 'designed for gasoline' gasoline engines misses its efficiency region.
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Ethanol as used in present gasoline engines designed to run with 100% gasoline, does not get its best efficiency. Ethanol needs high compression engines, close to that of diesel engines, to gain its efficiency. That is why the high performance, high compression Indy cars work well with ethanol. But the 10% ethanol in 'designed for gasoline' gasoline engines misses its efficiency region.
Was that an answer from experience/knowledge or the usual cut and paste you do?
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<quoted text>Hay when you respond your not ignoring. Sorry you’re another one that attended the one child left behind program. So that would again make you the commander TROLL!!
Are you going for the ignorant award? Your near that position.
Troll. Ignored.
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Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
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What are some of the positives of ethanol for fuel? Saves on fossil fuels. It is an oxygenation. It increases the octane rating of gasoline without adding dangerous additives. When mixed with gasoline, it is a very good gum solvent and cleans the fuel injectors. Since it absorbs water, it dries gasoline and prevents gas line freezes. Since it is produced from growing crops, it adds much less CO2 into the atmosphere. It helps the farmers show a little more profit.
All that said, it would be better if it were produced from non food crops. Brazil is doing just fine with producing it from sugar cane.
Ethanol? Terrible crappy fuel.

Corrosive.
Hygroscopic - stores poorly, goes bad quickly as it takes up water.
Did I mention corrosive?
Destroys FRP fuel tanks, e.g. in watercraft.
Lousy energy content - only 2/3 the energy content of gasoline
Lousy mpg to match
Safety hazard - when spilled and ignited, invisible flame

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Teddy R wrote:
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Ethanol? Terrible crappy fuel.
Corrosive.
Hygroscopic - stores poorly, goes bad quickly as it takes up water.
Did I mention corrosive?
Destroys FRP fuel tanks, e.g. in watercraft.
Lousy energy content - only 2/3 the energy content of gasoline
Lousy mpg to match
Safety hazard - when spilled and ignited, invisible flame
The corrosion problems have been solved. The hygroscopic property is a plus as well as a minus. Even though the energy content per gal of ethanol is less than gasoline, it is a viable energy efficient alternative. Most studies show a significant positive energy content.
http://www.ethanol.org/pdf/contentmgmt/ILSR_e...

"steel USTs have been shown to be satisfactory for storing 100 percent ethanol and E-blend gasoline (Archer Daniels Midland Co., 1998). Steel tanks have been used to store alcohols for more than 50 years without documented compatibility problems."

The tailpipe emissions of ethanol are at least as clean as petroleum gasoline and produce much less environmental CO2.

The positives and negatives will decide the future of ethanol.
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Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
Even though the energy content per gal of ethanol is less than gasoline, it is a viable energy efficient alternative.
From my post above:
Ethanol needs high compression engines, close to that of diesel engines, to gain its efficiency. That is why the high performance, high compression Indy cars work well with ethanol. But the 10% ethanol in 'designed for gasoline' gasoline engines misses its efficiency region.

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