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litesong

Lynnwood, WA

#32853 Nov 3, 2012
motheaten wrote:
Get lost.
Get lost.
You'll run out of battery power, calling from the 'Land of the Lost' to be found.
PHD

Overton, TX

#32854 Nov 3, 2012
Mothra wrote:
<quoted text>
I've seen wittier retorts in 'Stupid Answers for Stupid Questions'(Mad Magazine).
Pathetic.
Get lost.
So you found your--------self.Yes for stupid people like you.
Mothra

Phoenix, AZ

#32855 Nov 3, 2012
PHD wrote:
<quoted text>So you found your--------self.Yes for stupid people like you.
Hyuck, hyuck, hyuck.

You and Spaced' share the same writer?

Get lost.
SpaceBlues

Pasadena, TX

#32856 Nov 3, 2012
Mothra wrote:
<quoted text>
Hyuck, hyuck, hyuck.
You and Spaced' share the same writer?
Get lost.
You call this writing.



Pathetic. Find a life.
Mothra

Phoenix, AZ

#32857 Nov 3, 2012
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>You call this writing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =w1VAhTZSNFYXX
Pathetic. Find a life.
No. I call that a video.(Didn't watch it, btw.)

Get lost.
litesong

Lynnwood, WA

#32858 Nov 3, 2012
motheaten wrote:
Get lost.
Sorry, no one looks for you in the 'Land of the Lost'.

Correction:
I'm not sorry.......
PHD

Overton, TX

#32859 Nov 4, 2012
Mothra wrote:
<quoted text>
Hyuck, hyuck, hyuck.
You and Spaced' share the same writer?
Get lost.
Ok and you and the Less than a Box of Rocks are the same STUPID ASSumption of your----self.

“EnvironMENTAList ”

Since: Feb 07

Near Detroit

#32861 Nov 10, 2012
*Canada’s voters had already killed Y2Kyoto with a freely elected climate change denying prime minister and nobody cared, especially you fear mongers and the millions of scientists warning us of unstoppable warming (a comet hit).
Meanwhile, the entire world of SCIENCE, lazy copy and paste news editors and obedient journalists, had condemned our kids to the greenhouse gas ovens of an exaggerated "crisis" and had allowed bank-funded and corporate-run “CARBON TRADING STOCK MARKETS” to trump 3rd world fresh water relief, starvation rescue and 3rd world education for just over 26 years of insane attempts at climate CONTROL.
*In all of the debates Obama hadn’t planned to mention climate change once.
*Obama has not mentioned the crisis in the last two State of the Unions addresses.
*Occupywallstreet does not even mention CO2 in its list of demands because of the bank-funded carbon trading stock markets run by corporations.
*Julian Assange is of course a climate change denier.
Deny this: Despite being; “at the brink of no return potentially…” there does not exist one single IPCC warning of crisis that isn’t peppered with maybes and could bes and likelys….
HELP MY HOUSE COULD BE ON FIRE MAYBE? Exaggeration wasn’t a crime.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#32862 Nov 10, 2012
mememine69 wrote:
*Canada’s voters had already killed Y2Kyoto with a freely elected climate change denying prime minister and nobody cared, especially you fear mongers and the millions of scientists warning us of unstoppable warming (a comet hit).
Meanwhile, the entire world of SCIENCE, lazy copy and paste news editors and obedient journalists, had condemned our kids to the greenhouse gas ovens of an exaggerated "crisis" and had allowed bank-funded and corporate-run “CARBON TRADING STOCK MARKETS” to trump 3rd world fresh water relief, starvation rescue and 3rd world education for just over 26 years of insane attempts at climate CONTROL.
*In all of the debates Obama hadn’t planned to mention climate change once.
*Obama has not mentioned the crisis in the last two State of the Unions addresses.
*Occupywallstreet does not even mention CO2 in its list of demands because of the bank-funded carbon trading stock markets run by corporations.
*Julian Assange is of course a climate change denier.
Deny this: Despite being; “at the brink of no return potentially…” there does not exist one single IPCC warning of crisis that isn’t peppered with maybes and could bes and likelys….
HELP MY HOUSE COULD BE ON FIRE MAYBE? Exaggeration wasn’t a crime.
You make less and less sense.

Why do you post stuff that you don't even understand?
PHD

Overton, TX

#32863 Nov 11, 2012
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>You make less and less sense.
Why do you post stuff that you don't even understand?
They do because of being exposed to the Less than a Box of Rocks AKA "tina" and the useless babble tainted with hate spewed by the dirtling, mothra and the new one called the responder.
Spike

Albany, NY

#32864 Nov 11, 2012
litesong wrote:
<quoted text>
Along with other studies in previous years, you study tells how the clathrates are thawing.
All our struggles, accomplishments, hard work, and triumphs......all that we have learned and achieved against all odds.......destroyed by fart gas. This is the way the world ends.....not with a bang but with a toot!!
PHD

Overton, TX

#32865 Nov 11, 2012
Spike wrote:
<quoted text>
All our struggles, accomplishments, hard work, and triumphs......all that we have learned and achieved against all odds.......destroyed by fart gas. This is the way the world ends.....not with a bang but with a toot!!
So was that fart gas as you say exploded in I =ndiana last night. More than a toot.
Spike

Albany, NY

#32866 Nov 11, 2012
It is usually unwise to light them....farts, that is.
PHD

Overton, TX

#32867 Nov 11, 2012
So why do you light them?
Teddy R

Mclean, VA

#32869 Nov 15, 2012
Oh, dear -

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/articl...

"Even Prof Jones admitted that he and his colleagues did not understand the impact of ‘natural variability’– factors such as long-term ocean temperature cycles and changes in the output of the sun."

"Prof Jones also admitted that the climate models were imperfect:‘We don’t fully understand how to input things like changes in the oceans, and because we don’t fully understand it you could say that natural variability is now working to suppress the warming. We don’t know what natural variability is doing.’ "

"... in 2009, when the plateau was already becoming apparent and being discussed by scientists, he told a colleague in one of the Climategate emails:‘Bottom line: the “no upward trend” has to continue for a total of 15 years before we get worried.’ "

That point has now been passed.

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#32870 Nov 15, 2012
Teddy R wrote:
Oh, dear -
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/articl...
"Even Prof Jones admitted that he and his colleagues did not understand the impact of ‘natural variability’– factors such as long-term ocean temperature cycles and changes in the output of the sun."
"Prof Jones also admitted that the climate models were imperfect:‘We don’t fully understand how to input things like changes in the oceans, and because we don’t fully understand it you could say that natural variability is now working to suppress the warming. We don’t know what natural variability is doing.’ "
"... in 2009, when the plateau was already becoming apparent and being discussed by scientists, he told a colleague in one of the Climategate emails:‘Bottom line: the “no upward trend” has to continue for a total of 15 years before we get worried.’ "
That point has now been passed.
Oh dear as in what a dreadful piece of journalism, or oh dear, hasn't Teddy realised this is from weeks ago?

Since: Mar 09

Wichita, KS

#32872 Nov 15, 2012
Teddy R wrote:
Oh, dear -
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/articl...
"Even Prof Jones admitted that he and his colleagues did not understand the impact of ‘natural variability’– factors such as long-term ocean temperature cycles and changes in the output of the sun."
"Prof Jones also admitted that the climate models were imperfect:‘We don’t fully understand how to input things like changes in the oceans, and because we don’t fully understand it you could say that natural variability is now working to suppress the warming. We don’t know what natural variability is doing.’ "
"... in 2009, when the plateau was already becoming apparent and being discussed by scientists, he told a colleague in one of the Climategate emails:‘Bottom line: the “no upward trend” has to continue for a total of 15 years before we get worried.’ "
That point has now been passed.
Lets see what the American Institute of Physics has to say:

Around 2008 the deniers began to publicize a new claim: the world had supposedly gotten no warmer in the decade since 1998. Indeed that had been an extraordinarily warm year, for a "super El Niño" event, the strongest of the century, had pumped some extra heat from the Pacific Ocean into the atmosphere. No year since had been noticeably hotter (although 2005, 2008 and 2010 roughly matched it). While the claim excited comment among internet bloggers and a few politicians, the actual scientific literature gave scant attention to such short-term fluctuations, in this case probably caused by a sharp decline in solar activity.(50a) Anyone who looked at the ten-year average of air temperatures near the surface — which was what the weather statistics measured — would see that the decade 1999-2008 was substantially hotter than the decade before, which was in turn hotter than the preceding decade, and so forth back to the 1970s. Indeed all of the ten warmest years on record had come since 1997.
http://www.aip.org/history/climate/20ctrend.h...
Teddy R

Manlius, NY

#32873 Nov 15, 2012
Fair Game wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh dear as in what a dreadful piece of journalism, or oh dear, hasn't Teddy realised this is from weeks ago?
That's it? That's all you got? "This is from weeks ago?"

Did the planet just suddenly start in warming up again in the past couple weeks or something?

Maybe I missed that article ...
Teddy R

Manlius, NY

#32874 Nov 15, 2012
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
<quoted text>
Lets see what the American Institute of Physics has to say:
Around 2008 the deniers began to publicize a new claim: the world had supposedly gotten no warmer in the decade since 1998. Indeed that had been an extraordinarily warm year, for a "super El Niño" event, the strongest of the century, had pumped some extra heat from the Pacific Ocean into the atmosphere. No year since had been noticeably hotter (although 2005, 2008 and 2010 roughly matched it). While the claim excited comment among internet bloggers and a few politicians, the actual scientific literature gave scant attention to such short-term fluctuations, in this case probably caused by a sharp decline in solar activity.(50a) Anyone who looked at the ten-year average of air temperatures near the surface — which was what the weather statistics measured — would see that the decade 1999-2008 was substantially hotter than the decade before, which was in turn hotter than the preceding decade, and so forth back to the 1970s. Indeed all of the ten warmest years on record had come since 1997.
http://www.aip.org/history/climate/20ctrend.h...
As Fairgame has just chided me - you do know that's from February 2011, nearly TWO YEARS ago, don't you?

But - indeed. At what point does a short-term fluctuation in a long-term trend line become a trend change or even a trend reversal?

No point to argue there - Stockbrokers have made billions off their clients arguing both sides of the toss on that very question.

And here is what the inestimable dr. Jones had to say on this question:

"... in 2009, when the plateau was already becoming apparent and being discussed by scientists, he told a colleague in one of the Climategate emails:‘Bottom line: the “no upward trend” has to continue for a total of 15 years before we get worried.’ "

15 years. That's the point where, according to Dr. Jones, a hiatus becomes a significant change in the Trend. That point has now been passed. Or is Dr. Jones now doing his very best Nathan Thurm impression, saying, "I meant 20 years. That's right - 20. That's what I meant to say. It's so funny you should think I would believe a mere 15-year hiatus in the warming trend would be significant!"

Very droll.

And just one small question for you why is it do you think, that Dr. Jones finds the prospect of observing the global warming trend halting something to be "WORRIED" about?

Curious choice of words, n'est-ce pas?

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#32875 Nov 15, 2012
Teddy R wrote:
<quoted text>
That's it? That's all you got? "This is from weeks ago?"
Did the planet just suddenly start in warming up again in the past couple weeks or something?
Maybe I missed that article ...
It hasn't stopped.

As usually, you're too lazy to look at the evidence.

http://metofficenews.wordpress.com/2012/10/14...

Rose's story was such crap that even budgies objected to having their cages lined with paper that was already covered in shit.

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