Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt...

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When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, global warming was a slow-moving environmental problem that was easy to ignore.
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“EnvironMENTAList ”

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Why won’t your Gods of science who say we “could” be at the point of no return, say it “WILL” happen, not just “might” happen. The exaggeration is obvious to progressives.
Not one single IPCC warning is without; “maybe” and “could be” and “likely”………
Climate blame ………………the new REEFER MADNESS.
Let's make a deal, when science says it "WILL" happen, I'll join the dozens of climate blame protesters worldwide to save the planet from boiling from SUV gas.
Stupid Mother Nature eh?
SpaceBlues

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mememine69 wrote:
Why won’t your Gods of science who say we “could” be at the point of no return, say it “WILL” happen, not just “might” happen. The exaggeration is obvious to progressives.
Not one single IPCC warning is without; “maybe” and “could be” and “likely”………
Climate blame ………………the new REEFER MADNESS.
Let's make a deal, when science says it "WILL" happen, I'll join the dozens of climate blame protesters worldwide to save the planet from boiling from SUV gas.
Stupid Mother Nature eh?
You're lost in modern living with science.

Why do you drive a car, if you own a car and drive it, that is? Don't you know you might have an accident?

But in the case of man-made climate change, it's happening. There's no if about it.

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Spambrat wrote:
You're lost in modern living with science.
Why do you drive a car, if you own a car and drive it, that is? Don't you know you might have an accident?
But in the case of man-made climate change, it's happening. There's no if about it.
Nice try but the only friend you have is your care giver. Have you seen your care giver today?
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Earthling-1 wrote:
<quoted text>Nice try but the only friend you have is your care giver. Have you seen your care giver today?
Have you overdosed again? It would be you that needs to see its care giver.We know having a friend is only a dream for you.Hay maybe your care giver could be your friend.
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PHD wrote:
Nice try but the only friend you have is your care giver.
PHD.... I disagree. If dirtling's caregiver was his friend, dirtling would show improvement.

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Have you overdosed again? It would be you that needs to see its care giver.We know having a friend is only a dream for you.Hay maybe your care giver could be your friend.
Nice try but the only friend you have is your care giver. Have you seen your care giver today?

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PHD.... I disagree. If dirtling's caregiver was his friend, dirtling would show improvement.
Nice try but the only friend you have is your care giver. Have you seen your care giver today?

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Wanna lose an election? Then just keep threatening the voter’s kids with CO2 deaths.
*In three debates so far, Obama hasn’t mentioned climate change once.
*Obama has not mentioned the crisis in the last two State of the Unions addresses.
*Occupywallstreet does not even mention CO2 in its list of demands because of the bank-funded carbon trading stock markets run by corporations.
*Julian Assange is of course a climate change denier.
*Canada killed Y2Kyoto with a freely elected climate change denying prime minister and nobody cared, especially the millions of scientists warning us of unstoppable warming (a comet hit).
*Not one single IPCC warning of crisis isn’t peppered with “maybes” and “could bes” etc.
*Help my house is on fire maybe? But you lab coats said we are at the brink of no return, maybe?
*Climate Change Science and its 26 years of needless panic is the new Reefer Madness.
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Earthling-1 wrote:
<quoted text>Nice try but the only friend you have is your care giver. Have you seen your care giver today?
All my friends are care givers. If you had any friends you would have said yes to the question.So sad you have no friends but understandable. The reason you have no friends is due to your useless babble tainted with hate covered with spam cut and paste hot air. Now take your meds with a long nap. Hay maybe you could go out a purchase a friend so you could also have someone that cares. Hay another clue if you gave back then maybe you could also have a giver.

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Before voting, make sure to check out, MITT ROMNEY'S JOBS PLAN FOR AMERICA... www.bainport.com
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Well it looks like a case of etch a sketch kill big bird romneysia.
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I just READ ONE of your comments that was written in '08, and laughted out loud..."Why don't we
just put gasoline to $5.00 a gal."!? IT is now
2012 and you know it hit your mark.....Happy?
Gees, you can look into the future and see what
has happened. Still laughting....Thanks.
Get out and vote ...no guessing as to how what
you will do...Have a good next 4 yrs.
can't stop laughting.........maybe in a year or two
you can see it go to eight or ten? When it was
$1.78 you were yelling . four yrs ago..
Bad bad old days...right
SpaceBlues

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liza wrote:
I just READ ONE of your comments that was written in '08, and laughted out loud..."Why don't we
just put gasoline to $5.00 a gal."!? IT is now
2012 and you know it hit your mark.....Happy?
Gees, you can look into the future and see what
has happened. Still laughting....Thanks.
Get out and vote ...no guessing as to how what
you will do...Have a good next 4 yrs.
can't stop laughting.........maybe in a year or two
you can see it go to eight or ten? When it was
$1.78 you were yelling . four yrs ago..
Bad bad old days...right
Right, bad bad old days.

Here's the scoop. Now pay attention: the highest gas price occurred under the Bush management

http://zfacts.com/gas-price-history-graph

See the spike in 1988. Then Bush (GOP) destroyed the economy before the Obama election, the price sank, of course. See it?

SpaceBlues

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Correct:
liza wrote:
I just READ ONE of your comments that was written in '08, and laughted out loud..."Why don't we
just put gasoline to $5.00 a gal."!? IT is now
2012 and you know it hit your mark.....Happy?
Gees, you can look into the future and see what
has happened. Still laughting....Thanks.
Get out and vote ...no guessing as to how what
you will do...Have a good next 4 yrs.
can't stop laughting.........maybe in a year or two
you can see it go to eight or ten? When it was
$1.78 you were yelling . four yrs ago..
Bad bad old days...right
Right, bad bad old days.

Here's the scoop. Now pay attention: the highest gas price occurred under the Bush management

http://zfacts.com/gas-price-history-graph

See the spike in 2008. Then Bush (GOP) destroyed the economy before the Obama election, the price sank, of course. See it?

litesong

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litesong wrote:
This week, Arctic sea ice, either by satellite or submarine data, is above the 2007 Arctic sea ice extent AND the sea ice average for the decade of 2000's, at 6,219,375 km2 (October 19, 2012), the day's sea ice increase, Iowa sized. The sun has been unseen from the North Pole for ~one month, temperatures above the 80th parallel, lower than the last two weeks of dates for 2007 & other recent years, & temperatures on landforms surrounding the Arctic Ocean as low as -20 degC. Even Dawson, Canada, south of the Arctic Circle & site of a heatwave 3 weeks ago, where temperatures were 22+degC, is presently -24degC! Fairbanks is -19degC.
Arctic Ocean warmth is & will continue to keep Arctic sea ice thinner through the coming winter & even spring. As of October 2, Arctic sea ice VOLUME is ~23% lower than any satellite recorded year AND indications of submarine-detected Arctic sea ice yearly VOLUME.
Yes, the Arctic sea ice VOLUME is disappearing, year to year, quicker than the Arctic sea ice extent.
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Presently, Arctic sea ice extent is tied with 2007 AND 2011 sea ice extent for yesterday's date & is above the average minimum Arctic sea ice extent for the 2000's, at 6,433,281 km2 (October 20, 2012), today's sea ice blow-up the size of Kansas!! All areas of the Arctic Ice Pack advance southward, with a great & broad advance from the west of Northwest Passage almost to northern Alaska! Temperatures above the 80th parallel average -18 degC, the past 2 weeks of temperatures below the same weeks of 2007 & other recent years. Present temperatures on landforms surrounding the Arctic Ocean, are way below freezing, numerous areas deepening into minus double digits AND THE EVER BROADENING SWATH OF CONTINUOUS SIBERIAN TEMPS as low as -25 degC!
Arctic Ice Pack is very close to the Russian islands, Franz Joseph Land & Svalbard. Sea ice connected to the islands is strongly developing around the islands(connecting one set of Russian islands to the mainland). Arctic Ice Pack is extending far south into the vast clear waters north of Alaska & Siberia. Huge sea ice floes strongly developed in the vast clear waters north of Siberia(due to broad double digit minus Siberian temps spilled from North Pole month-long darkness & vortex mixing breaking down stratified solar heated waters?) AND connected the Ice Pack to far eastern Siberia, truly a remarkable development!

A detail noted 11 days ago is a raggy taggy developing edge along a part of the semi-circle, possibly NOT coincidental with the HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS (plus?) OF SQUARE KILOMETERS, of waters north of Alaska & Siberia that are VASTLY CLEAR. Might the raggy taggy edge indicate huge turbulence & currents in this largest(ever?) ice free, & resulting southerly-directed heat stratified Arctic waters? I wonder if there might develop more raggy taggy edging, enough to form a swirl pattern? Such a vast swirl at such a huge scale would be impossible...... wouldn't it?
Ten days ago, noted near the raggy taggy ice pack, have developed 3 tiny pixel ice floes(arced?), separated from the Arctic ice pack toward southerly directions. Nine days ago, the number of ice floes increased to 8 & indeed they formed an ARC. Pretty sure they represent a large scale vortex in open Arctic water! Further data, show that the vortex is true!

The east end of Northwest Passage is fairly ice free, tho recent temperatures in the area are deep into the double digit minus numbers. It should ice fairly soon AND does show faintly today.

Downwellings in unusual clear Arctic waters, normally sea ice covered in decades past, can be transporting only traces of extra solar energy to continental shelf, Arctic Ocean & sea depths, since the sun is fully set 24 hours a day, north of the 80th parallel. Southern Arctic waters get only a skimming from the sun for a few hours a day, which is only double digit degrees off the horizon, at most!
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litesong wrote:
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PHD.... I disagree. If dirtling's caregiver was his friend, dirtling would show improvement.
Well there is always the next day. Maybe the dirtling could pay someone to be its friend? Good point the dirtling doesn’t have a care giver and no friends. Hold on the dirtling does have a friend it’s the Less than a Box of Rocks AKA "tina"

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Science has betrayed its own warnings of crisis:
The millions of people in the global scientific community that are not reacting to the world walking away from their crisis "warnings", proves climate change was just an exaggeration.
*In all of the debates so far, Obama hasn’t planned to mention climate change once.
*Obama has not mentioned the crisis in the last two State of the Unions addresses.
*Occupywallstreet does not even mention CO2 in its list of demands because of the bank-funded carbon trading stock markets run by corporations.
*Julian Assange is of course a climate change denier.
*Canada killed Y2Kyoto with a freely elected climate change denying prime minister and nobody cared, especially the millions of scientists warning us of unstoppable warming (a comet hit).
Science needs to step up to the plate and be honest with us.
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mememine69 wrote:
Science has betrayed its own warnings of crisis:
The millions of people in the global scientific community that are not reacting to the world walking away from their crisis "warnings", proves climate change was just an exaggeration.
*In all of the debates so far, Obama hasn’t planned to mention climate change once.
*Obama has not mentioned the crisis in the last two State of the Unions addresses.
*Occupywallstreet does not even mention CO2 in its list of demands because of the bank-funded carbon trading stock markets run by corporations.
*Julian Assange is of course a climate change denier.
*Canada killed Y2Kyoto with a freely elected climate change denying prime minister and nobody cared, especially the millions of scientists warning us of unstoppable warming (a comet hit).
Science needs to step up to the plate and be honest with us.
And then there is romnesia.
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Now pay attention: the highest gas price occurred under the Bush management

http://zfacts.com/gas-price-history-graph

See the spike in 2008. Then Bush (GOP) messed up the economy before the Obama election, the price sank, of course. See it?

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SpaceBlues wrote:
Now pay attention: the highest gas price occurred under the Bush management
http://zfacts.com/gas-price-history-graph
See the spike in 2008. Then Bush (GOP) messed up the economy before the Obama election, the price sank, of course. See it?
Yes, also notice the difference between 2000-08 vs 2009-12. Also notice that spike in 2008 was later in the year when it looked like Obama was going to win the election. There is another graph I wished I could show you showing how investors were pulling money out of the US markets and moving it overseas out of Obama's reach.

I know you are trying to prove that it was Bush's fault. But all you ended up doing was proving it was Obama's fault for the high gas prices.

Also notice how the unemployment and underemployment numbers shot up starting in October of 2008. Remember that people who invest are looking months and years out. They already have a plan worked out if Romeny wins and one if Obama wins. The difference is that if Romney wins they will start moving capital back to the US and energy prices will fall. With Obama they will not move capital back to the US and look to park it someone safe for the next four years. Right now it is looking closer than they like.

Of course you will whine about fair just as if Romeny wins you will complain that it is the result of cheating.

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