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#32655 Oct 14, 2012
LOL. Hey, why don't you post the end of that:
So let’s be clear. Yes: global warming is real, and some of it at least has been caused by the CO2 emitted by fossil fuels. But the evidence is beginning to suggest that it may be happening much slower than the catastrophists have claimed – a conclusion with enormous policy implications.
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#32656 Oct 14, 2012
Where have you been hiding?
Read and ponder:
If you care,...
#32657 Oct 14, 2012
#32658 Oct 14, 2012
explains eight of the warmest years on record have occurred in the past decade.
#32659 Oct 14, 2012
Hey deniers, this is for you:
An article by David Rose appears today in the Mail on Sunday under the title:‘Global warming stopped 16 years ago, reveals Met Office report quietly released… and here is the chart to prove it’
It is the second article Mr Rose has written which contains some misleading information, after he wrote an article earlier this year on the same theme – you see our response to that one here.
So check it out, right? <sarcasm>
#32660 Oct 14, 2012
No, I do not care!
The issue has already been settled through science many moons ago.
Religious zealots believing in various unscientific beliefs have always been around thru the ages.
Belief is the psychological state in which an individual holds a proposition or premise to be true. A false belief is not considered to be knowledge, even if it is sincere.
People may adopt the beliefs of a charismatic leader, even if those beliefs fly in the face of all previous beliefs, and produce actions that are clearly not in their own self-interest.
The primary thrust of the advertising [and propaganda] industry is that repetition forms beliefs.-wiki
Surely wiki is understandable for the religious devotees of mmcc.
I've got better things to do and places to go, more gas to burn and more electricity to use because I like to enjoy my life.
So, when are you going to walk your talk?
Have you moved into your 200-300 sq ft closet yet?
Are you living hand to mouth everyday, walking or riding your bicycle everywhere, owning little of value?
Driving a Smart car? A Volt?
Are you paying your penance for your over consumption sins?
Are you willing to pay 1/2 your paycheck/income in tax for restitution of those sins?
Have any of your 'leaders' who are still making millions and billions off of the mmcc/cc scam they say they so ardently believe in, done any of those things?
Why the Pres is building/buying a sea side mansion in Hawaii right now. A Pres candidate is building a 3 story mansion oceanside in Cali right now.
Doom, gloom and disaster if ordinary people do not reduce their lifestyle and stop consuming so much because of mmcc/cc. Evil carbon emissions.
Has anyone addressed those 'evil carbon emmissions' from all the continual, ongoing, 24/7, 365 war machinery on the other HALF of the world?
And the minions suck up the bullsh*t.
#32661 Oct 14, 2012
Yes, you're frustrated because they don't pay you for your rubbish posts.
Hey, Daily Mail contradicted its own title at the end:
So let’s be clear. Yes: global warming is real, and some of it at least has been caused by the CO2 emitted by fossil fuels.
But you don't get it!
Hush, don't speak for the science that you don't know and hate so much!
#32662 Oct 14, 2012
Not frustrated whatsoever. That's just comical.
People are who they are and will believe what they are told and constantly repeat it, rather than think for themselves and find out if it's even true.
Just scanning the recent and predictible childishness of the mmcc/cc believers reasonings, repetitiveness and mimicry to see if anything had changed.
Wasn't part of the fantasy of mmcc that the ice caps are melting [and polar bears are dying] which the mmcc/cc believers here STILL regurgitate and STILL believe? It was said that we were 'past that tipping point'
Oops, didn't happen. Another LIE. lol.
[Woe is me! The arctic/polar ice is dissolving and melting and is G-O-N-E! It may be coming back thicker, but that's also because of mmcc/cc. lol.]
Wasn't part of the fantasy that the oceans are rising and will continue to rise and eventually flood the cities?[Wait a minute, the ice caps did significantly melt according to mmcc/cc devotees. Why didn't the oceans significantly rise as the fairytale said?]
'Tell me then, why do the ones who are making millions/billions off the mmcc/cc lie all want to live in their huge mansions right on the oceans?'
I guarantee that just their closets are bigger than your house. So much for those 'evil overconsumers' who contribe carbon emissions to mmcc/cc. lol.
Why aren't they afraid? Like they tell you to be fearful?
Because it's all a LIE.
All of it.
"Why the Pres is building/buying a sea side mansion in Hawaii right now. A Pres candidate is building a 3 story mansion oceanside in Cali right now."
Al has sea side mansions also.
As the fairytale goes,'The oceans are and will rise and eventually flood the coast and cities'
BTW. I know and understand 'the science' as you put it. Science is not something to be hated. It is unmoving FACT to rely on.
MMCC/CC belief in pseudo & made up science, and ignoring the true science is just plain ignorance of true science.
THAT farce, is comical.
So what are you doing to walk your talk? You never answered.
Keep the faith.
[But how faithful are you really if you have no actions that follow your mmcc/cc Mantra?]
What does that make you?
#32663 Oct 14, 2012
crick crick crick
where have all the humans gone?
“Happy, warm and comfortable”
Since: Oct 10
Mountain retreat, SE Spain
#32664 Oct 14, 2012
‘Bottom line: the “no upward trend” has to continue for a total of 15 years before we get worried.’
Phil Jones, 2009
#32665 Oct 14, 2012
STILL, NOTHING of substance to say?
Rest assured, those 'humans' which you refer to, which are your fellow mmcc/cc church devotees will be back soon.
Don't worry, they will give you more nice judgeits so you can feel good about yourself and get the affirmation you need from your group of fellow religious devotee 'mmcc church' HYPOCRITE believers.
It is said that people follow and reflect their leaders. lol.
Hang in there.
In the meantime, get yourself a floatation device [maybe the colorful kind with a horsie head for swimming pools] in eager anticipation of the rising oceans because the ice caps are melting at a furious pace these days.
Better warn those mmcc/cc carbon wasting believing spouters that are living/building on the ocean too!
Be careful if it's raining where you are. Thor may show up unexpectedly.
#32666 Oct 14, 2012
Unsubstantiated claims are your might.
Other than that, you are hysterical.
#32667 Oct 14, 2012
Actually, more like thirty years, and it has to occur in ALL of the temperature assessments. This is to avoid change due to 'decadal cycles' which cause a change in AIR temperature that is not reflected by SURFACE temperature. Also to avoid deficiencies in any one temperature study (i.e the CRU has a problem with measuring temperatures in the polar regions, where warmth is sent during ENSO cycles).
the anomaly shows up in CRU data, but is not duplicated in other studies such as
This indicates that the CRU model is likely in error due to the RAPID WARMING OF THE ARCTIC regions. When you have a KNOWN FLAW, it is not scientific to claim significance for that model when the rest of the models WITHOUT that flaw show no similar feature.
#32668 Oct 14, 2012
And of course, a 15 year trend in climate is not only not significant here but is an example of the graph reading chart
Rather pathetic that the denial camp doesn't know how to accurately assess models OR read graphs.
#32669 Oct 14, 2012
Nice review of denier ignorance.
It's time to post
for a summary of global warming and climate change myths... 173 of them. Reminds you how well-organized these deniers have been. Still ignorant, though.
Since: Apr 08
"the green troll"
#32670 Oct 15, 2012
David Icke's web forum is the top link- the man who believes reptiles in disguise rule the UK.
Plus a series of denier blogs and a Daily Mail article, non of which can provide a link to the source.
One of those quotes that deniers spread around without every questioning whether it was actually said or not.
Can we have a link to the source?
Since: Sep 12
#32671 Oct 15, 2012
A BUNCH OF LIBERAL BULLSHIT
#32672 Oct 15, 2012
The botom line is have you seen your care giver today?
#32673 Oct 15, 2012
A good article on Antarctic sea ice, referenced by SpaceBlue.
"If the Southern Ocean is warming, why is Antarctic sea ice increasing? There are several contributing factors. One is the drop in ozone levels over Antarctica. The hole in the ozone layer above the South Pole has caused cooling in the stratosphere (Gillet 2003). This strengthens the cyclonic winds that circle the Antarctic continent (Thompson 2002). The wind pushes sea ice around, creating areas of open water known as polynyas. More polynyas lead to increased sea ice production (Turner 2009). "
"Another contributor is changes in ocean circulation. The Southern Ocean consists of a layer of cold water near the surface and a layer of warmer water below. Water from the warmer layer rises up to the surface, melting sea ice. However, as air temperatures warm, the amount of rain and snowfall also increases. This freshens the surface waters, leading to a surface layer less dense than the saltier, warmer water below. The layers become more stratified and mix less. Less heat is transported upwards from the deeper, warmer layer. Hence less sea ice is melted (Zhang 2007). "
Oddly enough, the increase in sea ice is proof of the warming of the Antactic circumpolar seas. The longer winter ice season, the thinner ice and the wider extent are all factors influenced by the warming of the air and ocean. But it will not last. The warming will overcome these minor mechanisms in a decade or so. As Zhang 2007 indicated years ago.
#32674 Oct 15, 2012
Simple its the dirtlings hot air factor .
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