Doberman kills baby

An 8-month-old boy was attacked and killed by the family's pet Doberman pinscher in Brooklyn on Thursday afternoon, police said. Full Story
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marie

Tamuning, Guam

#2 Jan 3, 2008
rick wrote:
stupid grandmother...
More like stupid Parents!!! Why do people with children continue to have dogs that are known to attack?---Pit Bulls, Rottweilers, Dobermans!

I cannot imagine what they are going through losing their child like this---they are in my prayers.

“Nothing beats good DNA”

Since: Nov 07

Darien, IL

#3 Jan 3, 2008
If the grandmother was in the other room...how do they know the dog reacted to the child touching its paw?

Nevertheless, think how bad this poor woman must feel.
Susan in Buffalo Grove

AOL

#4 Jan 3, 2008
marie wrote:
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More like stupid Parents!!! Why do people with children continue to have dogs that are known to attack?---Pit Bulls, Rottweilers, Dobermans!
I cannot imagine what they are going through losing their child like this---they are in my prayers.
Not to mention keeping a large dog which should be free to run and roam cooped up in Brooklyn NY of all places ... that's inhumane to humans, not just dangerous canines. And then people wonder why their "sweet well-behaved" canine turns on a human baby that is percieved by the dog as a source of torment to the animal [and the animal can't run away, as would be its instinct].

When people keep animals where they shouldn't, this will continue to happen.
TTH

United States

#7 Jan 3, 2008
"Known to attack" - please. Give me a fricking break. The only reason people think this is because the media sensationalizes stuff like this. "Doberman attacks!" "Pit bull attacks!" Hmm. How about that story a month or two ago when a dog chewed the GENITALS off a baby with a dirty diaper? Remember that? Why didn't the headline say "Dachshund attacks!" Because that's the kind of dog it was. How about the lady in France whose dog chewed her face off? "Labrador attacks!" Nope, no mention that it was a Lab until you read the whole story. Dobes are no more likely to attack than any other dog. And people who leave an infant crawling around unattended with any kind of dog or pet nearby are idiots. So stupid, in fact, that I wouldn't be surprised if they're the type of people who would try to "train" a dog to be a guard dog or something equally moronic - and are then surprised and shocked by that animal's unpredictable behavior.
Reality

Glen Ellyn, IL

#11 Jan 3, 2008
Dobermans were bred by the Germans for military guard/attack purposes. They are bred to be schitzoid! People who get them as family pets are stupid. Get a lab!
JeanneB

Las Vegas, NV

#12 Jan 3, 2008
How awful for this family.
Please people!!! Get a clue. All breeds can bite given circumstances we know nothing about. Anyone bringing a baby into a situation where the pet has been "Alpha Lead" of the family pack ,puts the baby at risk. Especially a territorial breed. Avoid tragedy.... never trust an animal with a baby.
harold peterson

Chicago, IL

#13 Jan 3, 2008
Everybody with an IQ knows that NO family should have both a small child and a large dog.

How small is small and how large is large? Dono, but clearly "8 months small" vs "Doberman large" is outside the limits.(And, yes, even Dachshund size is too large if the baby is "dirty diaper" size.) Also, keeping a Doberman in a NYC borough apt means you automatically fail every iq test in the world.
Ruth M

Marengo, IL

#14 Jan 3, 2008
I am sorry for this family losing a child HOWEVER I had a female Doberman that we got as a puppy - sh was raised with love & kindness and did not have a mean bone in her body. She was so gentle that she fell "in love" with a neighbor's kitten. As sweet a dog as she was, I never left her alone with any of my grandchildren because accidents can happen.
Pete

Chicago, IL

#15 Jan 3, 2008
I'm sure the writer was very disappointed that this attack did not involve a pit bull, the media's favorite dog to vilify.
Just Me

Forest Park, IL

#16 Jan 3, 2008
So sad for all involved.

“Nothing beats good DNA”

Since: Nov 07

Darien, IL

#17 Jan 3, 2008
Ruth M wrote:
... because accidents can happen.
Exactly!

I have a 9 year old female German Shepherd and a 9 mon old male pomeranian. Both sweet as could be...I can turn my back, with no qualms, at any given time.

we had a mutt...April...offspring to a junk-yard-dog from a, yes, JUNK YARD near Midway. Was a good watchdog, loved our family, but bit everyone who came near us. Bit the ankle of the Mayor's son! Couldn't trust her with our son's friends. Neighbor kid was around for 4 years, yet she growled at him, lunged at him...literally skirted around our legs to get to him!

We had to put her down. She was a liability. We couldn't risk our home having a dog that was vicious.

Sad.
Esteban3873

Sardinia, OH

#18 Jan 3, 2008
What is with these idiots who have animals like this....why not leave a loaded gun next to the crib.

I am all for ownership of dogs.....just exercise some common sense and keep animals like these away from small children!
PDQ

Lombard, IL

#19 Jan 3, 2008
My thoughts and prayers are with the family at this time.

As for dogs- any dog at any time can attack.
I love dogs, all shapes and sizes.
As for leaving a child alone with a dog- I have done it. My dog was a great dog - I trusted him and he loved the kids - I know friends and family would come over to the house with small children - and with the size and strength of my dog be intimidated by him until they saw my own children, jumping on him, holding him, giving him hugs and love- the dog never turned on any one of my children - he was loved, trained and very affectionate. He would have kissed you to death. The kids could take his bones right from his mouth, put there faces by his bowl when he was eating- the dog never growled or showed his teeth-
He was the best - he was a 110lb AMERICAN BULLDOG - best dog ever- I miss him now - RIP BIG GUY!!!

“Nothing beats good DNA”

Since: Nov 07

Darien, IL

#20 Jan 3, 2008
Esteban3873 wrote:
What is with these idiots who have animals like this....why not leave a loaded gun next to the crib.
I am all for ownership of dogs.....just exercise some common sense and keep animals like these away from small children!
You stress not to leave a "loaded gun next to the crib"...why, because a 6-month old may choose to commit suicide? Or waste her babysitter?

"Animal like this"...what animal are you referring to?
exasperated

Louisville, KY

#22 Jan 3, 2008
new york? why is this even in the trib? because the trib loves sensational dog attack stories, of course. this is obviously very unfortunate, and leaving any dog of any breed alone with a baby is poor judgement. Now can we please have some real news?
zoe moore

Chicago, IL

#25 Jan 3, 2008
Dogs are not beloved family members, they are animals. No child should ever be left unattended with a dog, no matter what size or breed it is.

How many more tragic deaths or mutilations like these have to happen, before dog owners wake up?
Maria

Chicago, IL

#28 Jan 3, 2008
Do Shane wrote:
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You are ridiculous. Plenty of people in big cities own big-breed dogs and the dogs fare just fine.
Yes, dogs need exercise...but beyond that? I'd say a place, and time, to relieve themselves, shelter, food and water. Bottom line...the unconditional love, hugs, kisses and belly rubs are BENEFITS.
You think big dogs ought to be free to "run and roam"? Then why do all of us dog lovers keep dogs in our homes? Maybe we all should just open our back doors and let them fend for themselves...
God knows mine could survive OK...but would come back.
Unfortunately, owners of dogs in the city, big and small, allow them to relieve themselves whereever they damn well please. I'm tired of paying for the landscaping they destroy with their poop and spray both on my own private property and in our parks.

These dogs may fare "just fine", but it's at the cost of all of us non-dog owners.
larry jackson

Qingdao, China

#30 Jan 4, 2008
When you own dogs trained to attack you must be prepared for tragedy.
Billy Bob

Phoenix, AZ

#31 Jan 4, 2008
Do Shane wrote:
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Exactly!
I have a 9 year old female German Shepherd and a 9 mon old male pomeranian. Both sweet as could be...I can turn my back, with no qualms, at any given time.
we had a mutt...April...offspring to a junk-yard-dog from a, yes, JUNK YARD near Midway. Was a good watchdog, loved our family, but bit everyone who came near us. Bit the ankle of the Mayor's son! Couldn't trust her with our son's friends. Neighbor kid was around for 4 years, yet she growled at him, lunged at him...literally skirted around our legs to get to him!
We had to put her down. She was a liability. We couldn't risk our home having a dog that was vicious.
Sad.
It is a shame about your mutt who
thought he was doing his job protecting you and your (his) family.
But the liability ...
What else could you do.
Just Me

Forest Park, IL

#32 Jan 4, 2008
I have owned pit bulls all of my adult life. They were raised with love and kindness, and their loyalty is unsurpassed by anything. When my first child (now 30 yrs old) was brn, I was very worried about my dog. She was spoiled rotten and thought she was my child. I wasn't certain if she would be jealous or not, and I watched her closely around the baby. She was wonderful with the baby and she never left her side. When the baby got into that game of throwing things out of her playpen just to see you get them, I didn't have too. The dog would retrieve the toys for her, over and over until the baby got tired of the game. My daughter would pull her tail grab her nipples or her ears, and never did the dog whimper or growl. Now my grandchildren enjoy the love and devotion of a different pit bull, and while the six year old never really bothered with the dog, the three year old hugs her, pulls her, and even tries to dress her, and she has never growled once, although sometimes she'll come lay by my feet for protection from the three yr old. People that think certain breeds are more or less dangerous than others just aren't looking at the facts, and yes newspapers headline any story involving an injury or death caused by one of the so called "dangerous breeds". I recall a case in 1988 where a toddler was killed by a Lab. Obviously all small children should be watched closely even if there is no dog around, and they should be watched very closely if there is.

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