Who do you support for U.S. Senate in...
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Taylorsville, NC

#53539 May 19, 2014
Victoria wrote:
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A bunch of friends and I were watching a film on Hitler, and we remarked how the Right Wing propagandists took their lessons straight from Hitler's playbook on the use of propaganda.
I was brought up as a Christian. I used to call myself a Christian. But I watched how Bush & company used Christianity and religion to inflict their evil & warmongering on this country. I watched how self-professed Republican "Christians" started buying into all the hate and greed that the Rush Limbaughs, Sarah Palin's, et al, preached to the non-thinkers of this country and that was when I decided I wanted no part of that ugly group.
There are some mighty fine Democratic Christians out there, and one thing I've noticed.....they don't preach greed, they don't preach intolerance, they don't preach hate, they don't preach selfishness....and they don't preach bigotry.
The Right Wing "Christians" should spend a little time in those churches and learn what Christianity is supposed to mean.
RW Republican Christians as a whole have lost every bit of compassion they ever had for those less fortnate. Somehow, they cannot project themselves into the life of another and see the suffering and on going problems they experience every single day. They put themselves above others, something that Jesus never did. And what is the war on homosexuals all about? When there are record numbers of marriage broken by infidelity and broken promises to their spouse, this seems to be the real breakdown of the family unit, not what two consenting adults do in their private bedroom. Who cares? Broken marriages and family violence seem to be much larger concerns for society. When do Christians attack these issues?
Red Square

Mills River, NC

#53540 May 19, 2014
Most Democrats are Christians, though likely not of the fundamentalist variety. There have always been Christians who emphasize the fire and brimstone side of religion and forget about the helping the poor side. LBJ's War on Poverty did help bring the poverty rate down a bit, though it was also falling before it went into effect.

From the figures I've seen, the southeastern region of the U.S. has the highest murder rate. Funny that this is also the region sometimes called The Bible Belt. Oh well.

I've got to admit, the Nazis did have pretty sharp uniforms and flags, etc.
TSF

Holly Springs, NC

#53541 May 19, 2014
In 1926, Walker named young Prescott Bush a vice president of W.A. Harriman, made him a director of Union Banking, and placed him in charge of overseeing the firm's German operations, particularly its capital investments in Thyssen's various industrial ventures, notably his Vereinigte Stahlwerke, or United Steel Works.
A 1942 U.S. government investigative report would later tally the industrial output that created the Nazi war machine, and determined that during the 1932-41 period, Vereinigte Stahlwerke had produced the following proportions of Nazi Germany's total national output: 50.8 percent of its pig iron; 41.4 percent of its universal plate; 36 percent of its heavy plate; 38.5 percent of its galvanized sheet; 45.5 percent of its pipes and tubes; 22.1 percent of its wire; 35 percent of its explosives.
In the meantime, the Hamburg-Amerika Line was playing its own significant role as a major pipeline for Nazi propagandists and American money. This paragraph from Tarpley and Chaitkin in fact is perfectly accurate (and can be confirmed at the source document, Investigation of Nazi Propaganda Activities and Investigation of Certain Other Propaganda Activities: Public Hearings before A Subcommittee of the Special Committee on Un-American Activities, United States House of Representatives, Seventy Third Congress, New York City, July 9-12, 1934, Hearings No. 73-NY-7):
According to testimony of officials of the companies before Congress in 1934, a supervisor from the Nazi Labor Front rode with every ship of the Harriman-Bush line; employees of the New York offices were directly organized into the Nazi Labor Front organization; Hamburg-Amerika provided free passage to individuals going abroad for Nazi propaganda purposes; and the line subsidized pro-Nazi newspapers in the U.S.A., as it had done in Germany against the constitutional German government.
Hamburg-Amerika also played a more insidious role in events unfolding within Nazi Germany. Hitler's notorious Brownshirts -- the armed "citizen" platoons of the Sturmarbteilung, or SA -- who were providing so much of the violent thuggery associated with its rise to power, particularly in such events as Kristallnacht, were in fact being armed primarily with American weapons, many of them made by Remington Arms.
Samuel Pryor, the Remington Arms chairman, was also a founding director of both the Union Banking Corp. and the American Ship and Commerce Corp., which was the company that controlled Hamburg-Amerika. In 1934, U.S. Senate investigators began examining the traffic in weapons from the United States to other nations where conflict was erupting, and they began looking into Remington after it entered into a cartel agreement with the German explosives firm I.G. Farben (which would go on to gain infamy for its notorious role in many of the Nazis' concentration camps, as well as in creating the Zyklon B poison gas that killed millions of victims in the Holocaust). Testimony produced in the so-called "Nye Committee" revealed that Remington guns were being unloaded from Hamburg-Amerika boats to the waiting arms of the SA.
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TSF

Holly Springs, NC

#53542 May 19, 2014
A Col. William J. Taylor told the committee that "German political associations, like the Nazi and others, are nearly all armed with American ... guns.... Arms of all kinds coming from America are transshipped in the Scheldt to river barges before the vessels arrive in Antwerp. They then can be carried through Holland without police inspection or interference. The Hitlerists and Communists are presumed to get arms in this manner. The principal arms coming from America are Thompson submachine guns and revolvers.."
It is clear that Harriman's enterprises, with Prescott Bush playing at least a significant role, was an important player in providing the capital that produced the Nazi war machine during the 1930s, and its activities had also played a role in facilitating the violent eliminationist politics that were being practiced by the fascists throughout Europe (Harriman also had major dealings with Italy's Benito Mussolini).
According to Loftus, Harriman's firm, with Prescott Bush in charge, nonetheless continued to oversee operations at the Silesian plant. Indeed, Loftus charges, Bush was involved in obtaining slave labor from the nearby Auschwitz concentration camp to work at the operation's mines and mills. However, the 1942 vesting memo that seized Union Banking Company's assets tends to at least corroborate the contention that the Harriman firm remained active in managing its German and Polish assets and in trading with Nazi industries. That is the basis, after all, of the seizure
Rock

Franklin, NC

#53543 May 19, 2014
TSF wrote:
More republican propaganda against working people and workers unions being sucked up by the republican sheeple. For instance: The only union in Caldwell County has been the Furniture Manufacturers "Association" . That is double speak for Furniture Manufaturers Union. The Furniture Manufacturers Union represented manufacturers against their workers and was able to maintain effectively slave wages in Caldwell County for many years. Eventually, the manufacturer's union discovered they could get even cheaper labor in China, so they moved there. What was really insane was the republikan county commissioners giving them cash incentives to move. Even now the imbecilic former furniture workers will vote for republikans , even after republikans put them out of a job and then ended their unemployment compensation that they paid for..
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It's not even a country anymore... It's like a banana empire now, or something...$$$ is the new god I guess... Both sides were complicit in allowing globalization to rot our country from the inside out... That's why when both sides agree on something, it's usually doom to our people...
Rock

Franklin, NC

#53544 May 19, 2014
TSF wrote:
In 1926, Walker named young Prescott Bush a vice president of W.A. Harriman, made him a director of Union Banking, and placed him in charge of overseeing the firm's German operations, particularly its capital investments in Thyssen's various industrial ventures, notably his Vereinigte Stahlwerke, or United Steel Works.
A 1942 U.S. government investigative report would later tally the industrial output that created the Nazi war machine, and determined that during the 1932-41 period, Vereinigte Stahlwerke had produced the following proportions of Nazi Germany's total national output: 50.8 percent of its pig iron; 41.4 percent of its universal plate; 36 percent of its heavy plate; 38.5 percent of its galvanized sheet; 45.5 percent of its pipes and tubes; 22.1 percent of its wire; 35 percent of its explosives.
In the meantime, the Hamburg-Amerika Line was playing its own significant role as a major pipeline for Nazi propagandists and American money. This paragraph from Tarpley and Chaitkin in fact is perfectly accurate (and can be confirmed at the source document, Investigation of Nazi Propaganda Activities and Investigation of Certain Other Propaganda Activities: Public Hearings before A Subcommittee of the Special Committee on Un-American Activities, United States House of Representatives, Seventy Third Congress, New York City, July 9-12, 1934, Hearings No. 73-NY-7):
According to testimony of officials of the companies before Congress in 1934, a supervisor from the Nazi Labor Front rode with every ship of the Harriman-Bush line; employees of the New York offices were directly organized into the Nazi Labor Front organization; Hamburg-Amerika provided free passage to individuals going abroad for Nazi propaganda purposes; and the line subsidized pro-Nazi newspapers in the U.S.A., as it had done in Germany against the constitutional German government.
Hamburg-Amerika also played a more insidious role in events unfolding within Nazi Germany. Hitler's notorious Brownshirts -- the armed "citizen" platoons of the Sturmarbteilung, or SA -- who were providing so much of the violent thuggery associated with its rise to power, particularly in such events as Kristallnacht, were in fact being armed primarily with American weapons, many of them made by Remington Arms.
Samuel Pryor, the Remington Arms chairman, was also a founding director of both the Union Banking Corp. and the American Ship and Commerce Corp., which was the company that controlled Hamburg-Amerika. In 1934, U.S. Senate investigators began examining the traffic in weapons from the United States to other nations where conflict was erupting, and they began looking into Remington after it entered into a cartel agreement with the German explosives firm I.G. Farben (which would go on to gain infamy for its notorious role in many of the Nazis' concentration camps, as well as in creating the Zyklon B poison gas that killed millions of victims in the Holocaust). Testimony produced in the so-called "Nye Committee" revealed that Remington guns were being unloaded from Hamburg-Amerika boats to the waiting arms of the SA.
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Yes. For whatever reason, certain people still: yip, growl and bark whenever " conspiracy theories" are mentioned...
TSF

Holly Springs, NC

#53545 May 19, 2014
Money /Bush/ opium/BinLaden family/ 911

[ Copyright 2001, Michael C. Ruppert and From The Wilderness Publications. All Rights Reserved. May be reprinted and distributed for non-profit purposes only]

FTW - Money connections between Bush Republicans and Osama bin Laden go way back and the political and economic connections have remained unbroken for 20 years. And what appears to be a "new" alliance with Pakistan is merely a new manifestation of a decades-long partnership in the heroin trade.

Conveniently ignored in all of the press coverage since the tragic events of Sept. 11 is the fact that on May 17 Secretary of State Colin Powell announced a gift of $43 million to the Taliban as a purported reward for its eradication of Afghanistan's opium crop this February. That, in effect, made the U.S. the Taliban's largest financial benefactor according to syndicated columnist Robert Scheer writing in The Los Angeles times on May 22. But -- as we described in FTW's March 2001 issue -- the Taliban's destruction of that crop was apparently the single most important act of economic warfare against U.S. economic interests that the Taliban had ever committed. So why the gift?

Critics of the Gulf War well recall how, just prior to Saddam's invasion of Kuwait, President Bush (Sr.) dispatched Ambassador April Glaspie to visit Saddam with a letter and a "wink and a nod" telling the Iraqi leader that it was OK to invade his smaller neighbor. The May gift from Uncle Sam could well have been sending the same kind of message, along with necessary funds to complete the attacks. Drugs and terrorism go hand in hand.

Until February, Afghanistan had been the world's largest producer of opium/heroin, claiming close to 70% of the world's total production. That opium, consumed largely in Western Europe and smuggled through the Balkans, was a direct source of cash deposits in Western financial institutions and markets.
TSF

Holly Springs, NC

#53546 May 19, 2014
These days any FACT that makes someone uncomfortable is called "a conspiracy theory"

FACTS: Ford engines powered Messerschmitt aircraft and German tanks
The SA (brownshirts) carried American weapons
HW Bush was having a breakfast date with a Bin Laden family member on the morning of 9.01.01
Rock wrote:
<quoted text> Yes. For whatever reason, certain people still: yip, growl and bark whenever " conspiracy theories" are mentioned...
TSF

Holly Springs, NC

#53548 May 19, 2014
The fracking republikan legislature approved facking in NC today. But don't worry because the secrete chemicals they use are so perfectly safe that they have made it a felony for anyone to tell the public what those fracking chemicals are. It is a trade secret that is, by law, public information in Texas, but our republikan legislature , in their great wisdom of protecting the fracking gas companies from liability for damage to citizens , has made it a felony for anyone to tell anyone in NC what those chemicals are..

So I am not going to say that 750 different compounds including naphthalene, xylene, toluene, ethylbenzene, formaldehyde and other carcinogenic chemicals are used in the fracking witches brew soup.
Just move away from the fracking sites and drink bottled water from now on and you should be safe in your ignorance of what the fracking legislature has done to you.
Waco 1954

Lenoir, NC

#53549 May 19, 2014
TSF wrote:
The fracking republikan legislature approved facking in NC today. But don't worry because the secrete chemicals they use are so perfectly safe that they have made it a felony for anyone to tell the public what those fracking chemicals are. It is a trade secret that is, by law, public information in Texas, but our republikan legislature , in their great wisdom of protecting the fracking gas companies from liability for damage to citizens , has made it a felony for anyone to tell anyone in NC what those chemicals are..
So I am not going to say that 750 different compounds including naphthalene, xylene, toluene, ethylbenzene, formaldehyde and other carcinogenic chemicals are used in the fracking witches brew soup.
Just move away from the fracking sites and drink bottled water from now on and you should be safe in your ignorance of what the fracking legislature has done to you.
. Learn from Texas.
Waco 1954

Lenoir, NC

#53550 May 19, 2014
China and India are literally destroying their countries with pollution.
Taking everybody else to hell with them.
Waco 1954

Lenoir, NC

#53551 May 19, 2014
Red Square wrote:
Most Democrats are Christians, though likely not of the fundamentalist variety. There have always been Christians who emphasize the fire and brimstone side of religion and forget about the helping the poor side. LBJ's War on Poverty did help bring the poverty rate down a bit, though it was also falling before it went into effect.
From the figures I've seen, the southeastern region of the U.S. has the highest murder rate. Funny that this is also the region sometimes called The Bible Belt. Oh well.
I've got to admit, the Nazis did have pretty sharp uniforms and flags, etc.
Better check the murder rate in CA. Chicago, NYC, New Jersey, etc.
That was easy.
TSF

Holly Springs, NC

#53552 May 19, 2014
The NC governor and legislature cannot learn anything from anyone else. They have to reinvent everything and repeat all the mistakes made elsewhere. The democrats were far from perfect, but these shit head republikans are poster children for stupid.
Waco 1954 wrote:
<quoted text>. Learn from Texas.
Waco 1954

Lenoir, NC

#53553 May 19, 2014
Victoria wrote:
"The real failure, being high crime and unemployment in inner cities across America."
How is this the Democrats' fault? How is this Democratic "social engineering"? If anything it is REPUBLICAN social engineering. They are the party that makes it difficult for women to have access to birth control & family planning options.
When you have any big group of people located in small area, there is bound to be crime & unemployment. Look at any downtown area of a predominately white Southern city. Druggies hanging around on the streets, high unemployment.....all in a RED, REPUBLICAN areas of the South.
If anything the Democratic social policies HELPED keep both crime & unemployment in check. They are the ones willing to help poor people. The Republicans only care about the rich.
I don't see that.
Generational poverty is the legacy of the War on Poverty.
That means we have to come up with something that really encourages people to get off that little bit of money the govt. gives them, by offering something BETTER. I'm a big fan of job training.
Also, it might help employment in the inner cities, if having a felony didn't destroy any chance of getting a job.
Especially a non violent drug offense.
Maybe non violent felonies should not be counted against a person applying for a job.
Victoria

Sparta, NC

#53554 May 19, 2014
Waco 1954 wrote:
<quoted text> Better check the murder rate in CA. Chicago, NYC, New Jersey, etc.
That was easy.
Per population. Any large city filled with people is going to have a high murder rate.

PER POPULATION....the "Bible Belt" is where people go to kill.

"The United States is the most religious of all the industrialized nations. Forty-four percent of Americans attend church once a week, compared with 27 percent in Britain, 21 percent in France, 16 percent in Australia, and 4 percent in Sweden. Yet violent crime is not less common in the United States--it's more common. The murder rate here is six times higher than the rate in Britain, seven times higher than in France, five times higher than in Australia, and five times higher than in Sweden. Japan, where Christianity has almost no adherents, has less violent crime than almost any country. "

"The Bible Belt has more than its share of both praying and killing. Louisiana has the highest churchgoing rate in the country, but its murder rate is more than twice the national average. The same pattern generally holds in the rest of the South.{The} Bible-toting state of Texas has a murder rate triple that of Massachusetts..."
Waco 1954

Lenoir, NC

#53555 May 19, 2014
We can't accomplish ANYTHING if we IMMEDIATELY destroy what the other party Accomplishes, which includes Obamacare.
There is no gain in this constant harping on the past, if all we do if continue to make the same mistakes.
If ignoring poverty doesn't help, and neither does throwing money at it, what are the SOLUTIONS?
Waco 1954

Lenoir, NC

#53556 May 19, 2014
I'm unhappy about yall's depiction of Christians, but some of what you said is true, but don't blame Christianity, blame those who attempt to use Christianity for financial gain, WHOEVER THEY ARE.
Victoria

Sparta, NC

#53557 May 19, 2014
Waco 1954 wrote:
<quoted text> I don't see that.
Generational poverty is the legacy of the War on Poverty.
No it's not. It's just YOU repeating Right Wing talking points.

It doesn't even make sense. The ONE thing that has a direct affect on poverty is the size of a family. Republicans are the only ones standing in the way of women & birth control. Therefore, Republicans CAUSE poverty in this country.

It's not the Democrats' fault. It's the REPUBLICANS' fault.

You just repeat RW talking points without thinking it through to an alternative answer that would prove your RW talking point. Why don't you give THAT a try sometime? Hmmm?

You know what....they should be handing out FREE BIRTH CONTROL to every single woman in this country who wants it. But because the GOP has sold their souls to the freakin' devil, the are going to face the exploding demographics that will put their sorry demented selfish souls in the grave. Good riddance to bad rubbish!

Try thinking instead of just repeating.
TSF

Holly Springs, NC

#53558 May 19, 2014
Having a felony conviction would not automatically disqualify a person for employment by me, but it sure raises my level of concern. Will this person be able to take instructions and carry them out as directed? Can this person be trusted to drive a company vehicle? Can this person be trusted to handle my money and customers' money? Can this person be trusted in customer's businesses , homes and around their family and employees? I do not want some bureaucrat telling me I have to trust criminals because their offense is non violent.
Waco 1954 wrote:
<quoted text> I don't see that.
Generational poverty is the legacy of the War on Poverty.
That means we have to come up with something that really encourages people to get off that little bit of money the govt. gives them, by offering something BETTER. I'm a big fan of job training.
Also, it might help employment in the inner cities, if having a felony didn't destroy any chance of getting a job.
Especially a non violent drug offense.
Maybe non violent felonies should not be counted against a person applying for a job.
Victoria

Sparta, NC

#53559 May 19, 2014
Waco 1954 wrote:
I'm unhappy about yall's depiction of Christians, but some of what you said is true, but don't blame Christianity, blame those who attempt to use Christianity for financial gain, WHOEVER THEY ARE.
No one has blamed Christianity. We blamed the RIGHT WING MONSTERS who have used Christianity to dupe stupid people into believing that WAR...and GREED....and SELFISHNESS....and BIGOTRY is what Christianity is all about.

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