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Dang

Lenoir, NC

#42281 Sep 5, 2013
TSF wrote:
Obama doesn't give a flip about the Syrians, but he is president and cannot be saying that. I don't care a damn about the Syrians, but I can say that because everyone already knows that I am not PC. If Obama had made the strike, the pubs would have gone crazy with the blame game just like they had been going crazy about him doing nothing. NOTHING is exactly the right move . But pubs care nothing about right and wrong, all they care about is slamming anything Obama. They are afflicted with RODS (republican Obama dementia syndrome).Obama knows that and is using that fact.
This way, we do not have to buy the replacement Tomahawks , we avoid BORROWING another trillion dollars at least and republikans can now only blame themselves for whatever happens.
Heck, Obama could even get a Nobel Prize for this one also. He deserves it if it works.
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Wasn't he asked yesterday, about giving back his "Peace Prize" in Sweden? He's calling for war so they want it back. What if it doesn't work? Typical Democrat. Anything to get reelected. Did you see Kerry dodge the questions, he looked as bad as Hillery.
Dang

Lenoir, NC

#42282 Sep 5, 2013
TSF wrote:
Monica Lewinski's boyfriend's wife for president in 2016
"out for a stroll or to kill Americans, at this point what does it matter?" I hope Republicans play it over loud speakers driving down the roads.
Allen

Penrose, NC

#42283 Sep 5, 2013
Everyone seems to think that Obama drew the red line on chemical weapons use, actually it was drawn a century ago by the UN. IMO, a vote and a decision should wait until a full report is given by the UN inspectors. As bad as I would like to see Bashar ASSad taken out, I too think that a strike at this time is a bad idea. We can't just continue playing sheriff around the world. We are damned if we do and damned if we don't. If we strike without the support of the UN, this could mean world war three. If we do nothing, we look like cowards and may have to fight them on our own soil. These people have been fighting each other for one reason or the other since the beginning of time. No amount of US dollars, boots on the ground or air strikes is going to stop them. If we do strike them, then what? Do we say we are sorry by borrowing money to rebuild what we just tore all to hell?

“Seek Light”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#42284 Sep 5, 2013
People may have gotten confused when Obama opened his mouth and said"The use of chemical weapons would be crossing a red line". They probably then thought, that those words meant"the use of chemical weapons would be crossing a red line." What idiots.
Dang

Lenoir, NC

#42285 Sep 5, 2013
HUMANITARIAN FUNDING TO SYRIA HUMANITARIAN RESPONSE IN FY2012 AND FY2013*

USAID/OFDA


$208,811,613

USAID/FFP


$312,783,482

State/PRM


$488,759,482

Total U.S. Government (USG) Assistance to the Syria Humanitarian Response


$1,010,354,195 Dang that's a lotta "assistance"!!
Dang

Lenoir, NC

#42286 Sep 5, 2013
*These figures are current as of August 23, 2013
http://www.usaid.gov/crisis/syria
Dang

Lenoir, NC

#42287 Sep 5, 2013
"In resolution 1540 (2004), the Security Council decided that all States shall refrain from providing any form of support to non-State actors that attempt to develop, acquire, manufacture, possess, transport, transfer or use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons and their means of delivery, in particular for terrorist purposes. The resolution requires all States to adopt and enforce appropriate laws to this effect as well as other effective measures to prevent the proliferation of these weapons and their means of delivery to non-State actors.

The UN Office for Disarmament Affairs provides support for activities of the Committee established pursuant to resolution 1540 (2004), which is tasked to report to the Security Council on the implementation of the resolution. Currently, UNODA activities are focussing on the following key areas:

Facilitation of national implementation activities including through regionally coordinated approaches
Cooperation between international, regional and sub-regional organizations
Effective partnerships with civil society and the private sector" Now my question is should Syria be receiving ANY thing from the US. Seems the US picks and chooses the UN rules at will.
Dang

Lenoir, NC

#42288 Sep 5, 2013
"With backing by Beijing and Moscow unlikely at the U.N. Security Council, where both have veto powers, Obama is seeking the approval of the U.S. Congress." Things not going well in Russia. Looks like Congress will be more important than thought. China said "Military action would have a negative impact on the global economy, especially on the oil price - it will cause a hike in the oil price," Chinese Vice Finance Minister Zhu Guangyao told a briefing." "European Union leaders, usually strong allies of the United States, described the August 21 attack near Damascus, which killed an estimated 1,400 people, as "abhorrent" but added: "There is no military solution to the Syrian conflict."
justwondering

Marion, NC

#42289 Sep 5, 2013
None of those republicans who want to make NC a dumping ground for corporations that would love to fill their pockets for permission.
TSF

Clayton, NC

#42290 Sep 5, 2013
What I am saying is that republikans have been playing political games with the Syria "war" thing. They blame Obama for doing nothing and advocate war. When Obama agrees with them and says he favors war, they scatter in the opposite direction and now oppose what they were advocating. I might point out that Obama cannot be re elected. That is why the republican campaign against Obama is so stupid. Instead of running against Obama, they should be putting together a campaign for a viable republican candidate. I am all to well aware of the cost of war. That is why I oppose attacking countries like Afghanistan , Iraq, Syria just so arms manufacturers can make money. I could care less what happens in those countries. I do not believe in silly assed "message sending" or meddling in the affairs of others. We should mind our own business, stay out of unnecessary conflicts and save our men, ammunition, equipment and strength to protect the USA. Only when we are attacked should we respond and then do it suddenly, unexpectedly, mercilessly and with overwhelming overkill force against the enemy's men, women, children, pets and even farm animals..
Dang wrote:
<quoted text>Are you really saying, that the President of the United States, is "PRETENDING" about going to war??? Are you insane? You really think he is doing this to get one up on Republicans? If that is the case, YOU need a rubber room to play in and he needs to be impeached. The cost of war is more than money and scoring "reelection" points. What do you think he will do if his "snookered" job doesn't work? Nuts, just nuts.
100 Missions

Wallburg, NC

#42291 Sep 6, 2013
Only those that have NEVER been to war seem to advocate war. I have never understood that. It is almost always those that never even served that chant loudest for military action. So I say to Rush LimpBalls and Sean "I know everything" Hannity.....where the hell have you been. I did not see you in Saudi in 91 or Kosovo in 99. I did not see you in Iraq or Afghan in the last 13 years.....and yes I was there at all of the above...waiting for you join me...where were you? Oh thats I right...you were busy fighting for your own self serving interests.
TSF

Clayton, NC

#42292 Sep 6, 2013
I thought I would never agree with Glenn Beck on anything, but here it is.

. http://www.youtube.com/watch ...
TSF

Clayton, NC

#42293 Sep 6, 2013
You want your Military to fight side by side with these sick bastards!??
http://www.youtube.com/watch ...
State of Denial

Mount Holly, NC

#42294 Sep 6, 2013
100 Missions wrote:
Only those that have NEVER been to war seem to advocate war. I have never understood that. It is almost always those that never even served that chant loudest for military action. So I say to Rush LimpBalls and Sean "I know everything" Hannity.....where the hell have you been. I did not see you in Saudi in 91 or Kosovo in 99. I did not see you in Iraq or Afghan in the last 13 years.....and yes I was there at all of the above...waiting for you join me...where were you? Oh thats I right...you were busy fighting for your own self serving interests.
I respect our military 100% and your service.

What bothers me most about your post is that you're angry with people disagreeing with you because you made the CHOICE to join the military.

There was no mandatory draft and you didn't have to enlist. You haven't cornered the market on having an opinion about the military because you enlisted. The military paid, you, provided housing, and gave you benefits. All paid for by taxpayers.

Why were you waiting for others to join you, didn't you make this decision independently? The whole country can't join the military in order to have an opinion about going to war.

I don't agree with attacking Syria and I don't have a problem with people that do. You need to get to that place.

State of Denial

Mount Holly, NC

#42295 Sep 6, 2013
I see somebody must think they're Tom Bodett for Motel 6.

WE GET IT...the light will be on. Stop the "clueless" lightbulb judging. It's wasting energy.
100 Missions

Wallburg, NC

#42296 Sep 6, 2013
State of Denial wrote:
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I respect our military 100% and your service.
What bothers me most about your post is that you're angry with people disagreeing with you because you made the CHOICE to join the military.
There was no mandatory draft and you didn't have to enlist. You haven't cornered the market on having an opinion about the military because you enlisted. The military paid, you, provided housing, and gave you benefits. All paid for by taxpayers.
Why were you waiting for others to join you, didn't you make this decision independently? The whole country can't join the military in order to have an opinion about going to war.
I don't agree with attacking Syria and I don't have a problem with people that do. You need to get to that place.
You take me wrong. First let me clear the air...I never enlisted. I served as an officer. I have no issue with one choosing not to serve in the military. That's their choice. I do have an issue with the ones that I mentioned playing military expert on the air. Both of the lame brains that I mentioned have constantly ran their mouths about our strategy in every conflict fought. Both portray themselves as experts for their mindless followers. I have seen the many faces of war several times...it is not a damn Bruce Willis movie or XBox game. The brainless twits in D.C. and on the radio waves don't understand that war is the most immoral act we can do as humans and if we engage in it we have a moral obligation to get it over with as fast as possible. We always let popular political thought direct our combat efforts. I have seen this first hand and felt it's sting many times.As far as Syria is concerned...there is no quick in and out. While those that say we will only use airstrikes....well they have no clue about tactics and strategy. Airpower is great...thats my world...but wars are worn by driving the enemy into a corner and then eliminating him. There is really no nice way to put it. In Syria we have a government that has sponsored terrorism for 40 years. We have a loose knit terrorist network trying to take control calling themselves "rebels" to gain support. Basically we have terrorist killing terrorists. Why risks American lives in this? The only worthy cause in Syria would be to stop the genocide of innocents such as children caught in the cross fire. Again it is not that I am bitter toward those that don't serve...hell my son wants to join next year...I am trying to talk him into something else. I have 30 years service and no regrets. But I do see a bleek future for our services. By that I mean I see more and more corporate sponsored politically popular wars being fought and not those of real National Security concern.
waco 1909

Murfreesboro, TN

#42297 Sep 6, 2013
100 missions my time in the army convinced me of one thing, that being that most officers were/are idiots.High ranking politicians are usually even stupider.Most of the problems in the Mideast come from Iran and Saudi extremists.Certainly, Iranian nukes won't make the area more stable.Seems to me that its almost inevitable that Islamic fanatics will one day ignite a"small"nuclear blast in a major American city, probably New York or Washington DC. At that time, the pressure for retaliation will be unstoppable, whether or not the recipients of our retaliation are actually the guilty parties or not.At that time, we may all go over the brink.
100 Missions

Wallburg, NC

#42298 Sep 6, 2013
waco 1909 wrote:
100 missions my time in the army convinced me of one thing, that being that most officers were/are idiots.High ranking politicians are usually even stupider.Most of the problems in the Mideast come from Iran and Saudi extremists.Certainly, Iranian nukes won't make the area more stable.Seems to me that its almost inevitable that Islamic fanatics will one day ignite a"small"nuclear blast in a major American city, probably New York or Washington DC. At that time, the pressure for retaliation will be unstoppable, whether or not the recipients of our retaliation are actually the guilty parties or not.At that time, we may all go over the brink.
You are missing my entire point. BTW a true idiot is one that must resort to personal attacks in a debate on the issues.
State of Denial

Mount Holly, NC

#42299 Sep 6, 2013
100 Missions wrote:
<quoted text>
You take me wrong. First let me clear the air...I never enlisted. I served as an officer. I have no issue with one choosing not to serve in the military. That's their choice. I do have an issue with the ones that I mentioned playing military expert on the air. Both of the lame brains that I mentioned have constantly ran their mouths about our strategy in every conflict fought. Both portray themselves as experts for their mindless followers. I have seen the many faces of war several times...it is not a damn Bruce Willis movie or XBox game. The brainless twits in D.C. and on the radio waves don't understand that war is the most immoral act we can do as humans and if we engage in it we have a moral obligation to get it over with as fast as possible. We always let popular political thought direct our combat efforts. I have seen this first hand and felt it's sting many times.As far as Syria is concerned...there is no quick in and out. While those that say we will only use airstrikes....well they have no clue about tactics and strategy. Airpower is great...thats my world...but wars are worn by driving the enemy into a corner and then eliminating him. There is really no nice way to put it. In Syria we have a government that has sponsored terrorism for 40 years. We have a loose knit terrorist network trying to take control calling themselves "rebels" to gain support. Basically we have terrorist killing terrorists. Why risks American lives in this? The only worthy cause in Syria would be to stop the genocide of innocents such as children caught in the cross fire. Again it is not that I am bitter toward those that don't serve...hell my son wants to join next year...I am trying to talk him into something else. I have 30 years service and no regrets. But I do see a bleek future for our services. By that I mean I see more and more corporate sponsored politically popular wars being fought and not those of real National Security concern.
Again, appreciate your service to our country.

I, too, have relatives that didn't enlist but went in as officers. It's a sacrifice to be in the military, but as you, they knew what they were signing up for.

I agree also, troops have to be put on the ground and there's more American military personnel lives that will be lost.

The middle east has and always will fight with each other and we need to let them settle it their way.

It was sad to see the children suffer from the chemicals they were exposed to. With that being said, we have children in our own country that go to bed hungry, many parents care more about themselves than their children don't care if the children are sexually, emotionally abused and many times murdered.

We need to look after our children. This may sound hard hearted, but those children in the middle east will never live to see much past their 20's, but we can take the money funding wars and see our children live long and productive lives.
100 Missions

Wallburg, NC

#42300 Sep 6, 2013
State of Denial wrote:
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Again, appreciate your service to our country.
I, too, have relatives that didn't enlist but went in as officers. It's a sacrifice to be in the military, but as you, they knew what they were signing up for.
I agree also, troops have to be put on the ground and there's more American military personnel lives that will be lost.
The middle east has and always will fight with each other and we need to let them settle it their way.
It was sad to see the children suffer from the chemicals they were exposed to. With that being said, we have children in our own country that go to bed hungry, many parents care more about themselves than their children don't care if the children are sexually, emotionally abused and many times murdered.
We need to look after our children. This may sound hard hearted, but those children in the middle east will never live to see much past their 20's, but we can take the money funding wars and see our children live long and productive lives.
Well said!! The whole point of the Mid East is that both the governments and the rebels are terrorists. I think it is better controlled if we deal with a true organized government. Take a look at Libya. Whakquadfi was a pain in the ass true, but hell really broke loose when the rebels took control. The same thing will happen in Syria and Iran. Unorganized radicals are far more dangerous than organized ones. As far as taking care problems at home. Home should always come first. We have neglected our education system, we neglected the working poor and we have let our own infastructure suffer while we were nation building else where. My oath stated that I would protect and defend America. I did just that. I also meddled in political affairs in other nations. It is true that Afghan girls could not attend school before we arrived. They barley had schools for even the males to attend. It is noble indeed that we changed that. It is also sad that while we were doing that American kids were getting a watered down education, attending classes in worn out schools, attending school in fear of being shot. Sitting in class hoping for a better future while their parents hope to find a job. If there exists a true threat to national security show me that threat and I will fly lead to remove it.But don't enter a conflict for questionable reasons. We have torn our military apart with budget constraints. Anyone that says I am wrong on that has not seen it from the inside. We have Air Force Squadrons grounded right now. That means no flying due to no money. Should we not focus on strength and training? The future lies in the hands of our children. Therefore, lets turn our efforts full bore on making our nation strong economically again. Without a strong economic base national security is weakened greatly. Let's give future generations something better.

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