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Since: Dec 11

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#42072 Aug 20, 2013
TSF wrote:
The only thing I assumed is that Gaston is telling the truth on their website which says these advanced courses are available online and lists those that are in house. Why would they lie about that? Even if they are republican?
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I beg to differ, you are assuming. Where on their website does it say these advanced courses are available online "only"? It doesn't because they're NOT, you just assumed they were! These courses are actually taught in the classrooms as well. As for why they aren't listed on the website, I can't answer, but it would be pretty moronic to assume they weren't taught in the classroom if they were offered online. As you even stated, some of these advanced courses required labs and such, so how could they offer them online if they weren't offered in the classroom?

Since: Dec 11

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#42073 Aug 20, 2013
TSF wrote:
I take it that you have never taken an advanced course in chemistry, physics etc and have no concept of the error of your statements., The high schools only give a basic foundation that is required for these students when they attend universities to prepare for these jobs. They do not get that laboratory experimental foundation in on line courses. Your experience in school must have been unspeakably horrible. You still haven't expressed the source of your hatred for teachers and schools. I already know about communicrats, socialist, collectivism , socialist agenda, bla bla. What really happened to you?
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Again, my point exactly! Gaston Day offers these courses as AP and Honors "IN THE CLASSROOM" but with much more in depth and extensive understanding of the courses that they actually receive college credits, which puts them ahead in these subjects when entering into colleges and universities, which in turn, puts them ahead of the govt school students. I understand that a few govt schools offer these courses as well which is why I said most govt school students, but just as you said, govt schools only offer the basic foundation. To your credit, there are a few govt schools that do excel in education but they're few and far between.
As for what happened to me, my govt school education failed me! I graduated with honors in the top 25 of my class out of 398 graduating seniors and when I got to college, I found I was SOOO far behind the private school students it was all I could do to catch up, let alone keep up! The quality education I thought I had received was actually a joke compared to the private school education, so I asked myself why? The reason was the teachers. Looking back I realized that my education wasn't about learning but rather how quickly they could pass us along. Most teachers didn't care if we did the work,(or even showed up to class in some cases), and with them grading on a curve, and thanks to my grades, almost everyone passed so they were happy. It didn't matter what you learned as long as we were gone and they were on to the next pay check. The quality of education, and especially the quality of teachers, between govt and private was night and day!
I, for one, decided I would give my children the best education that I could afford so they wouldn't have to struggle like I did. We've made sacrifices in order to achieve this but in the end it's well worth it! As for private schools, I can speak first hand, if you don't show up or you don't do the work there are consequences! They will kick you out with no refund and it's back to govt schools.....which is usually enough incentive to excell.

“Seek Light”

Since: May 12

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#42074 Aug 20, 2013
Boehner won't lead.Then get out of the way.

“Seek Light”

Since: May 12

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#42075 Aug 21, 2013
Jackson, Sharpton, silent on three black teens who shoot and kill white Australian jogger.No comment from Obama on whether he"identifies"with slain jogger.
TSF

Fayetteville, NC

#42076 Aug 21, 2013
Was your school in NC and what county was it in?.
What years did that happen? What college?


When I got to college and didn't understand everything, I went to a professor's office to ask a few questions. I was told that "If you are not intelligent enough to figure this out yourself, you are not intelligent enough to be here. Goodby." Message: The hand holding is over. Get off your ass and start thinking. Thank you to that professor.
Pro-American wrote:
<quoted text>Again, my point exactly! Gaston Day offers these courses as AP and Honors "IN THE CLASSROOM" but with much more in depth and extensive understanding of the courses that they actually receive college credits, which puts them ahead in these subjects when entering into colleges and universities, which in turn, puts them ahead of the govt school students. I understand that a few govt schools offer these courses as well which is why I said most govt school students, but just as you said, govt schools only offer the basic foundation. To your credit, there are a few govt schools that do excel in education but they're few and far between.
As for what happened to me, my govt school education failed me! I graduated with honors in the top 25 of my class out of 398 graduating seniors and when I got to college, I found I was SOOO far behind the private school students it was all I could do to catch up, let alone keep up! The quality education I thought I had received was actually a joke compared to the private school education, so I asked myself why? The reason was the teachers. Looking back I realized that my education wasn't about learning but rather how quickly they could pass us along. Most teachers didn't care if we did the work,(or even showed up to class in some cases), and with them grading on a curve, and thanks to my grades, almost everyone passed so they were happy. It didn't matter what you learned as long as we were gone and they were on to the next pay check. The quality of education, and especially the quality of teachers, between govt and private was night and day!
I, for one, decided I would give my children the best education that I could afford so they wouldn't have to struggle like I did. We've made sacrifices in order to achieve this but in the end it's well worth it! As for private schools, I can speak first hand, if you don't show up or you don't do the work there are consequences! They will kick you out with no refund and it's back to govt schools.....which is usually enough incentive to excell.
TSF

Fayetteville, NC

#42077 Aug 21, 2013
If Obama had three sons, would they look like the ones who killed the Australian base ball player because they were bored?
What does Eric Holder have to say about this case on national news?
Has a massive investigation started by the DOJ?
Is DOJ going to fund protests against the three shooters?
waco1909 wrote:
Jackson, Sharpton, silent on three black teens who shoot and kill white Australian jogger.No comment from Obama on whether he"identifies"with slain jogger.

“Seek Light”

Since: May 12

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#42078 Aug 21, 2013
TSF wrote:
If Obama had three sons, would they look like the ones who killed the Australian base ball player because they were bored?
What does Eric Holder have to say about this case on national news?
Has a massive investigation started by the DOJ?
Is DOJ going to fund protests against the three shooters?
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in answer to your questions....nope, nope, and nope.Where is the political payback in caring about black on white homicide? Whites have grown accustomed to being targets for black murderers and thieves.Its not newsworthy.Dog bites man? That's not news.Man bites dog? That's news....
Dang

Lenoir, NC

#42079 Aug 21, 2013
Where is State of Florida?
State of Denial

Mount Holly, NC

#42080 Aug 21, 2013
TSF wrote:
If Obama had three sons, would they look like the ones who killed the Australian base ball player because they were bored?
What does Eric Holder have to say about this case on national news?
Has a massive investigation started by the DOJ?
Is DOJ going to fund protests against the three shooters?
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Finally we agree on something. As I read the post by Waco, I thought the same thing you did about Obama saying if he had a son he would look like Trayvon.

This will probably not go over well, but Obama's agenda is for the blacks. How about the college professor incident he interjected himself in?

Eric Holder is worse than Obama about his threats to prosecute any case he finds where he considers a black man the victim. Holder is way too power hungry and if you look at his record he hasn't done shit for either race. Truth be told, he ought to have his overreaching silly ass kicked out of office for abuse of power.

Their collective prejudice and the offices they hold in our government make them a threat to this country.

“Vote Republican”

Since: Aug 08

Wyandanch, NY

#42081 Aug 21, 2013
waco1909 wrote:
Jackson, Sharpton, silent on three black teens who shoot and kill white Australian jogger.No comment from Obama on whether he"identifies"with slain jogger.
That is becaus ethey are both intellectually dishonest. If they actually do something to remediate the issues of the black community, then they would be out of a job. They could no longer play the victim. Look, there is no doubt that black people got a raw deal. But, at some point, we have to look within ourselves and stop blaming others for issues we help to perpetuate.
State of Denial

Mount Holly, NC

#42082 Aug 21, 2013
TSF wrote:
Was your school in NC and what county was it in?.
What years did that happen? What college?
When I got to college and didn't understand everything, I went to a professor's office to ask a few questions. I was told that "If you are not intelligent enough to figure this out yourself, you are not intelligent enough to be here. Goodby." Message: The hand holding is over. Get off your ass and start thinking. Thank you to that professor.
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I don't about Pro, but I was the unfortunate victim of the Gaston County public school system. I, too, graduated with honors and I'm not telling the years I attended, but hector was a pup.

When I attended, high school was grades 10-12. We had so little math courses that in our senior year we could retake a math course to fill in the otherwise limited curriculum.

As was stated by the other poster, I knew I'd never send my children to a school system so pathetic. We cut back at our house, took overtime if offered and did what it took to send ours to private school. Never regretted a day.

There's still teachers teaching there today that were there when I graduated. They were ineffective then and with age, I don't think they're like a good bottle of wine and have improved. Tenure is a beautiful word for people like them.
State of Denial

Mount Holly, NC

#42083 Aug 21, 2013
I Hate Syracuse wrote:
<quoted text>That is becaus ethey are both intellectually dishonest. If they actually do something to remediate the issues of the black community, then they would be out of a job. They could no longer play the victim. Look, there is no doubt that black people got a raw deal. But, at some point, we have to look within ourselves and stop blaming others for issues we help to perpetuate.
Good post.

All races have at sometime have gotten a raw deal. It's called life and life isn't always fair.

You're correct, stop the blame game and take responsibility for our own lifr. If just 50% of this country would take responsibility for their lives, learn from mistakes they've made, and try their hardest to make something out of themselves, might I add legally, think of how much better off this country would be with just 50% doing this?
Dang

Lenoir, NC

#42084 Aug 21, 2013
AGAIN, "stricter gun laws" would have stopped the "Boredom" killing. How about the young man in Ga. he said, "I'm sorry, I'm off my meds." "Hill's brother, Timothy, told ABC News the suspect has "long history of medical disorders" including bipolar disorder, and was bound to "do something stupid."

Timothy Hill, 22, said he's not close to his brother and thinks he last saw him in January 2011. Hill,who said his brother once threatened to kill him, also said his Michael Hill was taking drugs for treating attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder as early as age 6." "Seattle Hempfest: One Week Until the World’s Largest Marijuana Celebration" "This year’s event will have a distinct theme for each day of the weekend. On Friday, the festival will focus on No Federal Schedule (the End Game), followed by Harm Reduction, Youth Use & Dependency on Saturday and Voter Power: Your Vote and Democracy on Sunday." Another intoxicant made available and then we get to talk about educating on the harm. It's a crazy world.
TSF

Fayetteville, NC

#42085 Aug 21, 2013
Administrators have not been doing their job if that is the case. There are over 20 reasons for firing a tenured teacher, incompetence being one of those along with such nebulous reasons as immorality, insubordination, etc. The only protection tenure gives (gave ) teachers is that the reason for their dismissal had to be be stated.. Now they can just be fired for any reason such as not dropping their drawers, not sucking up, not inflating grades for the children of school board members, the principals niece needs a job, etc. The elimination of tenure does not improve teaching, it improves administrative hoop jumping ,sucking up and nepotism because administrators are the ones doing the evaluating. Here again, the public has been sold a white elephant.
The only motivation I see here is that if we can fire a lot of good teachers from public schools, maybe we can force them into private schools to replace the un certified and often unqualified personnel there.
State of Denial wrote:
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I don't about Pro, but I was the unfortunate victim of the Gaston County public school system. I, too, graduated with honors and I'm not telling the years I attended, but hector was a pup.
When I attended, high school was grades 10-12. We had so little math courses that in our senior year we could retake a math course to fill in the otherwise limited curriculum.
As was stated by the other poster, I knew I'd never send my children to a school system so pathetic. We cut back at our house, took overtime if offered and did what it took to send ours to private school. Never regretted a day.
There's still teachers teaching there today that were there when I graduated. They were ineffective then and with age, I don't think they're like a good bottle of wine and have improved. Tenure is a beautiful word for people like them.
Dang

Lenoir, NC

#42086 Aug 21, 2013
Can't wait until teachers and students show up at school, if they show up, stoned. What great discussions that will be, "what's your favorite munchie?" I can hear it now.
State of Denial

Mount Holly, NC

#42087 Aug 21, 2013
TSF wrote:
Administrators have not been doing their job if that is the case. There are over 20 reasons for firing a tenured teacher, incompetence being one of those along with such nebulous reasons as immorality, insubordination, etc. The only protection tenure gives (gave ) teachers is that the reason for their dismissal had to be be stated.. Now they can just be fired for any reason such as not dropping their drawers, not sucking up, not inflating grades for the children of school board members, the principals niece needs a job, etc. The elimination of tenure does not improve teaching, it improves administrative hoop jumping ,sucking up and nepotism because administrators are the ones doing the evaluating. Here again, the public has been sold a white elephant.
The only motivation I see here is that if we can fire a lot of good teachers from public schools, maybe we can force them into private schools to replace the un certified and often unqualified personnel there.
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Speaking of unqualified teachers, they're in the public school system or used to be. When I attended the "shop" teacher was a local building contractor, who had attended college but not for teaching. The teacher that taught auto mechanic was just that, a local mechanic and the drafting teacher was from a local gas company, not a degree in architecture, but did their cad work. Our biology teacher's degree was in PE, our typing teacher was a former secretary with many years of experience working in an office setting and our history teacher also a degree in PE with a metal plate in his head and sometimes the elevator never made it out of the basement.

Speaking of qualified teachers being forced to private schools, that's great. Only strengthens the private school system and gives places in the public school system even with quality certified teachers which seem to be failing miserably.

Public schools should take a page out of the book of private schools ACCOUNTABILITY. You don't perform, you don't stick around.
Dang

Lenoir, NC

#42088 Aug 21, 2013
TSF wrote:
Administrators have not been doing their job if that is the case. There are over 20 reasons for firing a tenured teacher, incompetence being one of those along with such nebulous reasons as immorality, insubordination, etc. The only protection tenure gives (gave ) teachers is that the reason for their dismissal had to be be stated.. Now they can just be fired for any reason such as not dropping their drawers, not sucking up, not inflating grades for the children of school board members, the principals niece needs a job, etc. The elimination of tenure does not improve teaching, it improves administrative hoop jumping ,sucking up and nepotism because administrators are the ones doing the evaluating. Here again, the public has been sold a white elephant.
The only motivation I see here is that if we can fire a lot of good teachers from public schools, maybe we can force them into private schools to replace the un certified and often unqualified personnel there.
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"Most students are not adequately prepared to face the rigor of college, according to the latest ACT scores, which also show that the average composite score on the college-entrance exam fell from last year.

That composite score dropped to 20.9 among high school students in 2013, the lowest in eight years. Since 2006, scores had been relatively flat at about 21.1, on a scale where 36 is perfect." The education system in this country is failing and the core reason is too large for ANYONE to fix.
Dang

Lenoir, NC

#42089 Aug 21, 2013
"The report shows that African-American and American Indian students were the least likely of any group to take a core curriculum—four years of English and three each of math, science, and social studies—in high school by 2013.

While there is hope that the common-core standards have the potential to improve instruction and outcomes for students, adopting them is not enough, she said. Teachers need support, professional development, and materials to make sure students can meet the new standards." http://www.edweek.org/ew/articles/2013/08/21/...
Be Real

Lenoir, NC

#42090 Aug 21, 2013
I Hate Syracuse wrote:
<quoted text>That is becaus ethey are both intellectually dishonest. If they actually do something to remediate the issues of the black community, then they would be out of a job. They could no longer play the victim. Look, there is no doubt that black people got a raw deal. But, at some point, we have to look within ourselves and stop blaming others for issues we help to perpetuate.
You'll never change a l\ligger's way of thought because it completely lacks intellect, which is why they're completely dependent on sponging-off other races.

Since: Dec 11

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#42091 Aug 21, 2013
TSF wrote:
The only motivation I see here is that if we can fire a lot of good teachers from public schools, maybe we can force them into private schools to replace the un certified and often unqualified personnel there.
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I'll take the worst teacher at Gaston Day and put them up against ANY govt school teacher(s) you can provide in a debate of knowledge within the same subject and I'd be willing to bet my retirement that the worst Gaston Day teacher would run circles around any of your govt teachers! And from what I've seen at these govt school teachers protest, most of them don't run, they either waddle or hobble!

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