“Arch Nemisis of Democrats”

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#33051 Jan 21, 2013
TSF wrote:
I have never faulted the rich for being rich. I just want them to pay the same percentage income tax that I have to pay.
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They pay a less percentage rate because they have more to tax. But they still pay in more than you or I do.
TSF

Kenly, NC

#33052 Jan 21, 2013
The distributive law has absolutely nothing to do with wealth re-distriubution, either directly or indirectly. If you believe that teaching math and wealth redistribution are connected, you are as ignorant and paranoid as pro.
Silvercoastcorks wrote:
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Actually, your example is a little flawed. The property you are demonstrating is called Commutative Law. It allows you to swap numbers around and get the same answer, i.e. your example.
Distributive law is when you multiply a variable across a polynomial.
3x(x+1+2y)= 3x^2 + 3x + 6xy
While distributive law does not directly teach "redistribution of wealth" it does however teach basic principles of redistibution.
The economic policy of taxing the wealthy "just a little more" is closely aligned with the communist ideology of redistribution of wealth. Nationalization is the redistibution of physical property.
Since we are talking about redistribution, again, here is some more info for review.
"Today, income redistribution occurs in some form in most democratic countries. In a progressive income tax system, a high income earner will pay a higher tax rate than a low income earner. The difference between the Gini index for an income distribution before taxation and the Gini index after taxation is an indicator for the effects of such taxation. Two common types of governmental redistribution of wealth are subsidies and vouchers (such as food stamps). These "transfer payment" programs are funded through general taxation, but disproportionately benefit the poor, who pay fewer or no taxes. While the persons receiving redistributions from such programs may prefer to be directly given cash, these programs may be more palatable to society, as it gives society some measure of control over how the funds are spent."
"Currently in the United States, any means-tested entitlement program can be considered a redistributive effort. This is because the US Government practices a progressive income tax that disproportionately yields public revenues from various earnings brackets. As the wealthy pay more into the system and the poor receive more marginal utility through programs such as TANF, Medicaid, FHA insured loans, and the earned income tax credit (all of which are means-tested), it could be argued that the United States has democratically opted for the redistribution of wealth. Each of these programs provide services or financial aid to the poor."
"The Gini coefficient (also known as the Gini index or Gini ratio) is a measure of statistical dispersion. The Gini coefficient measures the inequality among values of a frequency distribution (for example levels of income). A Gini coefficient of zero expresses perfect equality, where all values are the same (for example, where everyone has an exactly equal income). A Gini coefficient of one (100 on the percentile scale) expresses maximal inequality among values (for example where only one person has all the income). There are some issues in interpreting a Gini coefficient. The same value may result from many different distribution curves. The demographic structure should be taken into account. Countries with an aging population, or with a baby boom, experience an increasing pre-tax Gini coefficient even if real income distribution for working adults remain constant."

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#33053 Jan 21, 2013
Arnold-Ziffel wrote:
Bacon, Was slave trading a Christian endeavor? Can it be justified by any moral value? I will respond to your question when I get an answer from you.
In the article I posted it said it was. What does that have to do with me and my Christianity? I don't own slaves, never have and don't feel responsible for those that did. They'll answer to God for their deeds and I'll answer for mine. I can't speak to if there was justification back then about any moral value, but we all justify things we do right of wrong or else we wouldn't do them. Arnold, I don't know why you always want people to speak on behalf of people or situations we didn't know or live thru. Can you get out of the past for the love of Pete? Do you want me to start holding you responsible for the New Black Panthers that threatened George Zimmerman with death threats just because they're black and you are? Do you want me to hold you responsible for all the black on black homicides which is the highest murder rate in the country because you're black? Stop asking questions that none of us have nothing to do with. Do you make their behavior personal because you're black and they are? I can tell you, the only person I can control is myself and I don't have the capability to control other people's behavior, nor do I feel responsible for it. If christians had slaves back in the day of however far you want to go back to it was wrong, but I don't feel bad because they had "christian" attached to them. I don't own their behavior, I own mine.

Since: Sep 12

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#33054 Jan 21, 2013
Silvercoastcorks wrote:
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Innocent till proven guilty in a court of law by a jury of peers, and not public opinion.
Same for you.
Same for me.
I love the blindfolded "Lady Justice"!
TSF

Kenly, NC

#33055 Jan 21, 2013
Excuse me,but WTF does that have to do with teaching children that numbers add up to the same sum regardless of the order in which they are added? What does it have to do with teaching children how to find mean and median of a given set of numbers..
Let me answer for you. Nothing, other that some stupid assed connection in your ignorant mind about the word distribution. Oh and by the way, teaching students about electric power distribution also has NOTHING to do with re-distribution of wealth, or communism, or socialism or liberalism , etc..
Silvercoastcorks wrote:
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"Criticism
Conservative, libertarian and neoliberal arguments against property redistribution consider the term a euphemism for theft or forced labor, and argue that redistribution of legitimately obtained property cannot ever be just. Public choice theory states that redistribution tends to benefit those with political clout to set spending priorities more than those in need, who lack real influence on government.
In the United States, some of the founding fathers and several subsequent leaders expressed opposition to redistribution of wealth.
Samuel Adams stated: "The utopian schemes of leveling [redistribution of wealth], and a community of goods, are as visionary and impracticable as those that vest all property in the Crown.[These ideas] are arbitrary, despotic, and, in our government, unconstitutional."
James Madison, author of the Constitution, wrote, "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents."
United States President Grover Cleveland vetoed an expenditure of federal aid explaining,
I can find no warrant for such an appropriation in the Constitution; and I do not believe that the power and duty of the General Government ought to be extended to the relief of individual suffering which is in no manner properly related to the public service or benefit. A prevalent tendency to disregard the limited mission of this power and duty should, I think, be steadily resisted ... The friendliness and charity of our fellow countrymen can always be relied on to relieve their fellow citizens in misfortune..... Federal aid in such cases encourages the expectation of paternal care on the part of the Government and weakens the sturdiness of our national character, while it prevents the indulgence among our people of that kindly sentiment and conduct which strengthens the bonds of a common brotherhood."

Since: Sep 12

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#33056 Jan 21, 2013
TSF wrote:
Do you deny that president Bush had already signed NAFTA along with Carlos Salinas (Mexico) and Mulroney (Canada) before Clinton was elected? Do you deny that NAFTA had been approved by both houses of congress before Clinton signed it?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N orth_American_Free_Trade_Agree menthowever, Chrétien subsequently negotiated two supplemental agreements with the new US president. In the US, Bush, who had worked to "fast track" the signing prior to the end of his term, ran out of time and had to pass the required ratification and signing into law to incoming president Bill Clinton. Your point is?????????
TSF

Kenly, NC

#33057 Jan 21, 2013
Giving tax breaks to the rich , putting two two wars on the credit card and giving prescription drug benefits to seniors are the main reasons we are in a financial bind today.
Silvercoastcorks wrote:
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They pay a less percentage rate because they have more to tax. But they still pay in more than you or I do.

Since: Dec 11

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#33058 Jan 21, 2013
Makin bacon wrote:
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In the article I posted it said it was. What does that have to do with me and my Christianity? I don't own slaves, never have and don't feel responsible for those that did. They'll answer to God for their deeds and I'll answer for mine. I can't speak to if there was justification back then about any moral value, but we all justify things we do right of wrong or else we wouldn't do them. Arnold, I don't know why you always want people to speak on behalf of people or situations we didn't know or live thru. Can you get out of the past for the love of Pete? Do you want me to start holding you responsible for the New Black Panthers that threatened George Zimmerman with death threats just because they're black and you are? Do you want me to hold you responsible for all the black on black homicides which is the highest murder rate in the country because you're black? Stop asking questions that none of us have nothing to do with. Do you make their behavior personal because you're black and they are? I can tell you, the only person I can control is myself and I don't have the capability to control other people's behavior, nor do I feel responsible for it. If christians had slaves back in the day of however far you want to go back to it was wrong, but I don't feel bad because they had "christian" attached to them. I don't own their behavior, I own mine.
So, it is your contention that the past plays not importance to the development of manking. Let me ask you this. Why was the Holocaust Museum constructed in Washington, DC with millions of vistors each year? Why do people do tours of the of the Death Camps in Poland? Why do many Universities offer courses on the Holocaust? Why is the senseless murder of over 6 million Jews not important to remember in today's age? Why do you think we preserve the memory of this autrocity? Tell me your answer.

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#33059 Jan 21, 2013
mankind

Since: Dec 11

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#33060 Jan 21, 2013
TSF wrote:
Excuse me,but WTF does that have to do with teaching children that numbers add up to the same sum regardless of the order in which they are added? What does it have to do with teaching children how to find mean and median of a given set of numbers..
Let me answer for you. Nothing, other that some stupid assed connection in your ignorant mind about the word distribution. Oh and by the way, teaching students about electric power distribution also has NOTHING to do with re-distribution of wealth, or communism, or socialism or liberalism , etc..
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Silver copied this article out of Karl Rove magazine.

Since: Dec 11

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#33061 Jan 21, 2013
Silvercoastcorks wrote:
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code of honor?? You support pro choice out of one side your mouth yet support more gun legislation out of the other.
Life of eterenal contradiction is the code of honor of all democrats.
You would support all the babies to be born, but you would abandon them in life and let them go hungry if they needed welfare assistance, and most of them would I am sure.

"Support them being born,
F##k them after they get here."

From "The Republican Creedo."

Since: Dec 11

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#33062 Jan 21, 2013
Arnold-Ziffel wrote:
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So, it is your contention that the past plays not importance to the development of manking. Let me ask you this. Why was the Holocaust Museum constructed in Washington, DC with millions of vistors each year? Why do people do tours of the of the Death Camps in Poland? Why do many Universities offer courses on the Holocaust? Why is the senseless murder of over 6 million Jews not important to remember in today's age? Why do you think we preserve the memory of this autrocity? Tell me your answer.
Arnold, I've visited the Holocaust Museum in D.C. as have millions. While I found it quite disturbing, it was a testament to those that died and the horrible way(s) they died. It is personal to me on many levels, but I don't expect everyone that goes through the museum to personalize it as I do. With that being said, just because Germans killed Jews, I don't go around with a chip on my shoulder toward Germans or people of German decent, otherwise I wouldn't be married. Please understand and I don't know how else to put it, but we must never forget The Holocaust, but we can't be bitter at people that just happen to be from Germany. It's a matter of being able to forgive and I can do that, and I leave the judging to God. You're very quick to judge people guilty by association, I don't. You and your wingman have always acted as though those of us on here that aren't democrats are responsible for everything the republicans do or that we necessarily agree. You're judging us because we have chosen to be republicans, not off who we are. You've all but held me personally responsible for the vote for gay marriage being voted down in N.C. and I didn't even vote. I would have voted yes, marriage is between a man and a woman, but my brother's welfare meant more to me than a vote. You need to stop personalizing everything that doesn't go your way and you definitely need to stop judging people based off a common association. How burdened you must be carrying around the problems of everyone in the world "you feel" have been unjustly treated. Relax Arnold, you're only responsible for your choices and behaviors and let others own theirs'.

“Arch Nemisis of Democrats”

Since: Jun 12

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#33063 Jan 21, 2013
TSF wrote:
Excuse me,but WTF does that have to do with teaching children that numbers add up to the same sum regardless of the order in which they are added? What does it have to do with teaching children how to find mean and median of a given set of numbers..
Let me answer for you. Nothing, other that some stupid assed connection in your ignorant mind about the word distribution. Oh and by the way, teaching students about electric power distribution also has NOTHING to do with re-distribution of wealth, or communism, or socialism or liberalism , etc..
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Um...you used the mathmatical example. I expanded on YOUR example by showing where some flaws were and showed the fundementals of distribution or redistibution. Electrical power distribution has absolutely nothing to do with wealth redistibution, yes. But we were talking about wealth redistibution and I gave you card carrying, stamp US mail on them, critisms of economic policies of wealth distibution, which you cast a vote in favor of, with your support for Obama.

“Arch Nemisis of Democrats”

Since: Jun 12

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#33064 Jan 21, 2013
TSF wrote:
Giving tax breaks to the rich , putting two two wars on the credit card and giving prescription drug benefits to seniors are the main reasons we are in a financial bind today.
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Those wars also protected middle class and low class peeps as well, just not the well off.

Since: Dec 11

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#33065 Jan 21, 2013
Makin bacon wrote:
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Arnold, I've visited the Holocaust Museum in D.C. as have millions. While I found it quite disturbing, it was a testament to those that died and the horrible way(s) they died. It is personal to me on many levels, but I don't expect everyone that goes through the museum to personalize it as I do. With that being said, just because Germans killed Jews, I don't go around with a chip on my shoulder toward Germans or people of German decent, otherwise I wouldn't be married. Please understand and I don't know how else to put it, but we must never forget The Holocaust, but we can't be bitter at people that just happen to be from Germany. It's a matter of being able to forgive and I can do that, and I leave the judging to God. You're very quick to judge people guilty by association, I don't. You and your wingman have always acted as though those of us on here that aren't democrats are responsible for everything the republicans do or that we necessarily agree. You're judging us because we have chosen to be republicans, not off who we are. You've all but held me personally responsible for the vote for gay marriage being voted down in N.C. and I didn't even vote. I would have voted yes, marriage is between a man and a woman, but my brother's welfare meant more to me than a vote. You need to stop personalizing everything that doesn't go your way and you definitely need to stop judging people based off a common association. How burdened you must be carrying around the problems of everyone in the world "you feel" have been unjustly treated. Relax Arnold, you're only responsible for your choices and behaviors and let others own theirs'.
I remember the conversation that we had on here long ago where your brother's welfare was the topic of discussion was regarding voting Republican would be against the welfare of your brother's interest. Remember? And you got hotter than a firecracker and told me to never "mess with your family". I have never even mentioned your brother since then because I respected that. Now, when Silver goes on a barrage and uses racial names against blacks, and here even tonight, wanted to discredit my mother, it's OK with you, and "not to hate anyone" or 'carry the burdens of the world'. Listen, when you grow up humiliated by a group of assholes all your life, you learn not to take it. And, Silver is the ultimate asshole on this forum. So, take a bit of your own medicine, and try to project in my situation being the same as what you thought was disrespecting your brother. I have never disrespected your brother, and I know that is off limits because I respect your feelings in that regard. But read back a few posts and see the disrespect he gave my mother. He is safe on the computer because if he would have said that to my face, I would have whipped his ass. You know where I am coming from. He is a complete asshole and a jerk. I will be so glad when he does get the hell out of here.

Since: Dec 11

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#33066 Jan 21, 2013
TSF wrote:
I have never faulted the rich for being rich. I just want them to pay the same percentage income tax that I have to pay.
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Most of the rich don't pay any income tax, they pay capital gains tax...which would be the same rate for you if have investments.
As for me and my former business, as well as almost all businesses, I didn't "pay" any taxes, those expenses were consolidated into the price of goods and services and passed on the the customer. That's how businesses operate which is well within the law.

“Smarter Than You”

Since: May 12

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#33067 Jan 21, 2013
I believe you included me in your list of racists RECENTLY AZ, but even so,I wish any references to your mother had not been made.

Since: Dec 11

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#33068 Jan 21, 2013
TSF wrote:
The distributive law has absolutely nothing to do with wealth re-distriubution, either directly or indirectly. If you believe that teaching math and wealth redistribution are connected, you are as ignorant and paranoid as pro.
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And if you can't see the Commucrats agenda in the math worksheet provided to teachers from Scholastic then you are either blind or you agree with the agenda.

http://teacherexpress.scholastic.com/subject/...

Since: Dec 11

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#33069 Jan 21, 2013
waco1909 wrote:
I believe you included me in your list of racists RECENTLY AZ, but even so,I wish any references to your mother had not been made.
I mentioned two people who who came to mind at that moment. I forgot you, Waco. I will add you as a third. My bad. You have never displayed any racist tendencies to me. Sorry if you thought otherwise. I apologize.

Since: Dec 11

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#33070 Jan 21, 2013
Makin bacon wrote:
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Arnold, I've visited the Holocaust Museum in D.C. as have millions. While I found it quite disturbing, it was a testament to those that died and the horrible way(s) they died. It is personal to me on many levels, but I don't expect everyone that goes through the museum to personalize it as I do. With that being said, just because Germans killed Jews, I don't go around with a chip on my shoulder toward Germans or people of German decent, otherwise I wouldn't be married. Please understand and I don't know how else to put it, but we must never forget The Holocaust, but we can't be bitter at people that just happen to be from Germany. It's a matter of being able to forgive and I can do that, and I leave the judging to God. You're very quick to judge people guilty by association, I don't. You and your wingman have always acted as though those of us on here that aren't democrats are responsible for everything the republicans do or that we necessarily agree. You're judging us because we have chosen to be republicans, not off who we are. You've all but held me personally responsible for the vote for gay marriage being voted down in N.C. and I didn't even vote. I would have voted yes, marriage is between a man and a woman, but my brother's welfare meant more to me than a vote. You need to stop personalizing everything that doesn't go your way and you definitely need to stop judging people based off a common association. How burdened you must be carrying around the problems of everyone in the world "you feel" have been unjustly treated. Relax Arnold, you're only responsible for your choices and behaviors and let others own theirs'.
The point that I am making about The Holocaust and Slavery is that the horrors of those two events should never be forgotten, so that neither is never again repeated. We don't accomplish that by silence.

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