I do not recall saying this. The father has no say in the matter. He must pay for support because he was a part of the process, but the mother does not have to complete the process. The woman much more of a burden in the process.<quoted text>
Mike, only interesting post and you and I discussed this before and that is not the answer you gave. I threw out the hypothetical what if a woman got pregnant wanted to have an abortion and the father of the baby said "hey, don't abort, I'll pay for everything and once the baby is born you'll never have to see the child again." We discussed that men are responsible for child support, thus if he should pay after the baby is born shouldn't he have a right about the pregnancy. You said and I agreed that we didn't exactly know the legalities, but it seemed the father should have some rights. We even discussed if a woman is murdered who is pregnant, the perpetrator is charged with double homicide if the child dies, thus the child is considered more than a fetus.
The court can even override a woman's decision after the birth of the baby to not receive child support from the father, even if it was her body and she chose to have the baby. I read not too long ago where a lesbian couple obtained sperm from a male friend and a child was conceived. One of the women fell on hard times or they split or something and the mother of the child was having trouble providing for the child and the judge made the male friend, pay child support. So, I say if the father can be held accountable for fathering a child after birth, he should have a say if his child can be carried to term. I know your argument will be that the woman can have an abortion without the knowledge of the father, and that's the of the story; however, I think if the woman isn't your one night stand kind of woman and she has feelings for said father of the baby, she would tell him she was pregnant, especially if she wanted to continue the relationship.
If a fetus is killed by someone other than the mother, it is not murdering a child, but murdering a fetus in a woman. It is not a very black and white, clear cut matter.
Does it suck that the father has no say? Yes, but I think the law as it stands has its reasons.
I am not thrilled with abortion, but I do see a need to keep choice a freedom.
I am not thrilled to see anyone have child that is not prepared to raise it well.
Their are no easy answers to the abortion debate. Their certainly is not Utopian solution.