Who do you support for U.S. Senate in North Carolina in 2010?

[emlu]

Makin bacon wrote:

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Congrats Arnold. This must have been the season for love. Hope it works out for you guys. You got a two-fer with her, a woman that loves you and can take care of you if you start going bonkers.

OMG that's funny!! I hadn't thought of the "bonkers" part! maybe I should rethink a couple things! ;) Bet that get him going.

[Makin bacon]

LuLu wrote:

http://www.mapsofworld.com/wor ld-top-ten/world-top-ten-count ries-with-largest-armies-map.h tml
It ain't the US

Good post Lu.

"I am glad you said "due to your observation", because clearly such a claim is just of perspective and biases and not due to any facts or data." This was Mike calling out TSF on exactly what he did when he stated our military was 20 times the size of any other military. Guess he forgot his facts and data before posting this to TSF.

[Makin bacon]

emlu wrote:

<quoted text>OMG that's funny!! I hadn't thought of the "bonkers" part! maybe I should rethink a couple things! ;) Bet that get him going.

You don't have a thing to worry about. What you lack in the field of psychiatric nursing, you can compensate with your knowledge of firearms. Waco better walk the straight and narrow with you or he may have to be subdued with a little buckshot instead of a straight jacket.:)

[Taxpayer]

Interesting.

[Allen]

waco1909 wrote:

Bacon I get your point, but these mass murders are almost the exclusive province of white rich kids.Not talking about gang killings.I'm not saying rich white kids are bad.Too much time on your hands, an anti-social personality, too much coddling is a recipe for disaster.That's my opinion, By the way, i'm becoming an NRA member! I'm full of contradictions haaaa!

"In fact, it's so imporant for you to join NRA, I want to offer you a special $10 dollar discount off your membership dues. That means, instead of our regular dues of $35, you can join NRA today for the low rate of only $25."

"Or you can save even more by choosing a two-year membership for $50 (normally $60) or a three-year membership for $70 (normally $85). The longer your commitment, the more you save."

"Plus, in addition to your discount, you'll receive a number of valuable NRA members-only benefits, including a subscription to one of the NRA's award-winning magazines...invitations to NRA events in your area...upon activation $7,500 of insurance for YOU and YOUR GUNS...your personalized membership card and decal...and more!"

"And, if you join today, you'll receive a special BONUS GIFT-NRA's razor-sharp, Rosewood Handle Pocketknife-as our way of welcoming you to the NRA family."

Are the rewards here worth the dues? Will $7,500 pay your funeral bill? Why would you want them or our Government to know what kind or how many guns you own?

[Makin bacon]

Allen wrote:

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"In fact, it's so imporant for you to join NRA, I want to offer you a special $10 dollar discount off your membership dues. That means, instead of our regular dues of $35, you can join NRA today for the low rate of only $25."
"Or you can save even more by choosing a two-year membership for $50 (normally $60) or a three-year membership for $70 (normally $85). The longer your commitment, the more you save."
"Plus, in addition to your discount, you'll receive a number of valuable NRA members-only benefits, including a subscription to one of the NRA's award-winning magazines...invitations to NRA events in your area...upon activation $7,500 of insurance for YOU and YOUR GUNS...your personalized membership card and decal...and more!"
"And, if you join today, you'll receive a special BONUS GIFT-NRA's razor-sharp, Rosewood Handle Pocketknife-as our way of welcoming you to the NRA family."
Are the rewards here worth the dues? Will $7,500 pay your funeral bill? Why would you want them or our Government to know what kind or how many guns you own?

I got a better deal a couple years ago for only $20. Only paid that one time, but they still send the free stuff trying to get me to "re-join". I was never asked by the NRA what type of gun I owned or even if I owned a gun. If there's one thing I know for sure, if the government wants to know something about you, they'll find it out. Side note: I give to the ASPCA too and they really send a bunch of freebies. I believe if they would take the money spent on the freebies and put towards the animals it would be better spent.
I don't know how Waco feels about cremation, but you can be cremated for about 1/3 of the cost of $7500, well at least you can in N.C.
You should be less worried about the government knowing what guns you own, if legally and worry more about the article I'm going to post:

http://www.aapsonline.org/index.php/site/arti...

When the door is opened to the government to know our personal business then they'll certainly take advantage of it.

[TSF]

The NY law just enacted casts a wide net for "mental illness" in individuals who will be scrutinized for violent tendancies in most cases by "health care professionals " who have little or no training in either phychology of psychiatry . These "professionals" are required to scan and report violent "tendancies". This is supposed to stop gun violence. The problem is that there is no evidence that the mentally ill commit more gun violence than the others. So huge numbers of people will suffer the loss of constitutional rights in a measure that has no real useful purpose other than falsely making politicians look like they are doing something usefull.

[waco1909]

Allen wrote:

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"In fact, it's so imporant for you to join NRA, I want to offer you a special $10 dollar discount off your membership dues. That means, instead of our regular dues of $35, you can join NRA today for the low rate of only $25."
"Or you can save even more by choosing a two-year membership for $50 (normally $60) or a three-year membership for $70 (normally $85). The longer your commitment, the more you save."
"Plus, in addition to your discount, you'll receive a number of valuable NRA members-only benefits, including a subscription to one of the NRA's award-winning magazines...invitations to NRA events in your area...upon activation $7,500 of insurance for YOU and YOUR GUNS...your personalized membership card and decal...and more!"
"And, if you join today, you'll receive a special BONUS GIFT-NRA's razor-sharp, Rosewood Handle Pocketknife-as our way of welcoming you to the NRA family."
Are the rewards here worth the dues? Will $7,500 pay your funeral bill? Why would you want them or our Government to know what kind or how many guns you own?

I no longer own guns.Please be coherent Allen.

[emlu]

Allen wrote:

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"In fact, it's so imporant for you to join NRA, I want to offer you a special $10 dollar discount off your membership dues. That means, instead of our regular dues of $35, you can join NRA today for the low rate of only $25."
"Or you can save even more by choosing a two-year membership for $50 (normally $60) or a three-year membership for $70 (normally $85). The longer your commitment, the more you save."
"Plus, in addition to your discount, you'll receive a number of valuable NRA members-only benefits, including a subscription to one of the NRA's award-winning magazines...invitations to NRA events in your area...upon activation $7,500 of insurance for YOU and YOUR GUNS...your personalized membership card and decal...and more!"
"And, if you join today, you'll receive a special BONUS GIFT-NRA's razor-sharp, Rosewood Handle Pocketknife-as our way of welcoming you to the NRA family."
Are the rewards here worth the dues? Will $7,500 pay your funeral bill? Why would you want them or our Government to know what kind or how many guns you own?

Drop back 10 and punt Allen, his MY membership candidate. In more ways than one, sorry:)

[waco1909]

Makin bacon wrote:

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You don't have a thing to worry about. What you lack in the field of psychiatric nursing, you can compensate with your knowledge of firearms. Waco better walk the straight and narrow with you or he may have to be subdued with a little buckshot instead of a straight jacket.:)

I'll take the buckshot.

[emlu]

waco1909 wrote:

<quoted text> I'll take the buckshot.

No worries Sweetie, there will be no need for either one!

[waco1909]

Makin bacon wrote:

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Good post Lu.
"I am glad you said "due to your observation", because clearly such a claim is just of perspective and biases and not due to any facts or data." This was Mike calling out TSF on exactly what he did when he stated our military was 20 times the size of any other military. Guess he forgot his facts and data before posting this to TSF.

size of armies means little.It's how much is spent on each countries military.Of all military spending in the world today,41 per cent is American.Wikipedia.military spending,15 top countries.

[waco1909]

emlu wrote:

<quoted text>No worries Sweetie, there will be no need for either one!

Always good to know!

[waco1909]

TSF wrote:

The NY law just enacted casts a wide net for "mental illness" in individuals who will be scrutinized for violent tendancies in most cases by "health care professionals " who have little or no training in either phychology of psychiatry . These "professionals" are required to scan and report violent "tendancies". This is supposed to stop gun violence. The problem is that there is no evidence that the mentally ill commit more gun violence than the others. So huge numbers of people will suffer the loss of constitutional rights in a measure that has no real useful purpose other than falsely making politicians look like they are doing something usefull.

You are correct.These days, the less said, the better.Big Brother is watching us...

[emlu]

TSF wrote:

The NY law just enacted casts a wide net for "mental illness" in individuals who will be scrutinized for violent tendancies in most cases by "health care professionals " who have little or no training in either phychology of psychiatry . These "professionals" are required to scan and report violent "tendancies". This is supposed to stop gun violence. The problem is that there is no evidence that the mentally ill commit more gun violence than the others. So huge numbers of people will suffer the loss of constitutional rights in a measure that has no real useful purpose other than falsely making politicians look like they are doing something usefull.

So TSF, are you telling me the last several "mass shooting" were committed by perfectly sound minded people?

[emlu]

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/12/m...

This link runs from 1982 forward.

[Makin bacon]

emlu wrote:

<quoted text>So TSF, are you telling me the last several "mass shooting" were committed by perfectly sound minded people?

Lu, I would agree that people committing these mass shootings are not of a sane mind. However, these days many diagnoses fall under mental illness, OCD (could be just hand washing over and over or other rituals such as counting cracks in the sidewalk), maybe a bout of depression after the loss of a loved one or divorce that's only temporary, anorexia and bulimia, none of these in my "unprofessional" opinion would cause one to go out and kill a bunch of people. I agree with TSF, there's people in the medical field not qualified to diagnose a true, dangerous mental illness, thus people are denied the right to own a gun. There's no tried and true way to diagnose people that just snap and I know from having a family member that this happened to, it can happen. Then there's a matter of HIPPA laws, doing background checks that open the door to a person's health is wrong. The government is overreaching boundaries.

[waco1909]

Makin bacon wrote:

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Lu, I would agree that people committing these mass shootings are not of a sane mind. However, these days many diagnoses fall under mental illness, OCD (could be just hand washing over and over or other rituals such as counting cracks in the sidewalk), maybe a bout of depression after the loss of a loved one or divorce that's only temporary, anorexia and bulimia, none of these in my "unprofessional" opinion would cause one to go out and kill a bunch of people. I agree with TSF, there's opeople in the medical field not qualified to diagnose a true, dangerous mental illness, thus people are denied the right to own a gun. There's no tried and true way to diagnose people that just snap and I know from having a family member that this happened to, it can happen. Then there's a matter of HIPPA laws, doing background checks that open the door to a person's health is wrong. The government is overreaching boundaries.

Since when has our government NOT USED FEAR to gain more power?

[waco1909]

Since when has ANY GOVERNMENT not used FEAR to increase it's hold over the people?

[emlu]

Makin bacon wrote:

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Lu, I would agree that people committing these mass shootings are not of a sane mind. However, these days many diagnoses fall under mental illness, OCD (could be just hand washing over and over or other rituals such as counting cracks in the sidewalk), maybe a bout of depression after the loss of a loved one or divorce that's only temporary, anorexia and bulimia, none of these in my "unprofessional" opinion would cause one to go out and kill a bunch of people. I agree with TSF, there's people in the medical field not qualified to diagnose a true, dangerous mental illness, thus people are denied the right to own a gun. There's no tried and true way to diagnose people that just snap and I know from having a family member that this happened to, it can happen. Then there's a matter of HIPPA laws, doing background checks that open the door to a person's health is wrong. The government is overreaching boundaries.

Exactly. That is my point. Instead of looking at the existing laws that "protect" a person's mental health rights, the flip side, is to limit another persons rights. To give full disclosure here, I had to be "evaluated" to get a NC driver's license because of DUI. Had to have a mental health official sign off on it, because of prior behavior. I didn't have to do that to get my NCCHP. It's a tough issue and it will be an intense issue.