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#31915 Jan 10, 2013
TSF wrote:
Republikan weeper of the house, John Boner, curses another congressman and then bursts into tears. The maurity level of our republikan congress doesnt even meet sloppy middle school standards.
And the conservative right like to call Pelosi a wack job when Boehner shows such obvious signs of emotional instability. When you can't control your own emotions, what does that say? I don't mind seeing someone cry with a purpose, but this man cries at the drop of a hat on ANYTHING. Strange man without a doubt. He is perfect for the out of touch Republicans. Just imgagine what Fox News and Rush would say about this behavior if he were a Democrat! They would be merciless, but being a Republican, they never mention it.
LuLu

Lenoir, NC

#31916 Jan 10, 2013
I'm with you Bacon, I don't mind helping Sandy, I don't think NASCAR, Amtrak.Smithsonian,etc need a boost at the same time.

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#31917 Jan 10, 2013
Taxpayer wrote:
Obama Admin Defended Agents Putting Gun To Little Girl’s Head.
While acting as if they are holier than the rest of us when it comes to gun control, the Obama administration defended agents of the Drug Enforcement Agency’s use of force against the 11-year-old and 14-year-old daughters of Thomas and Rosalie Avina. The “excessive” force included putting a gun to the youngest girl’s head. Attorney’s for the Obama administration defended the actions of the agents arguing that “the DEA agents’ conduct was plainly reasonable under the circumstances. All hail Obama, Lead of the United Socialist Authority.
This incident happened on January 20, 2007 when George Bush was President. Just another Bush mess he has to clean up.

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#31918 Jan 10, 2013
LuLu wrote:
I'm with you Bacon, I don't mind helping Sandy, I don't think NASCAR, Amtrak.Smithsonian,etc need a boost at the same time.
So Sandy victims should be denied federal help when other regions got needed relief after their own natural disasters? Why?
Taxpayer

Point Harbor, NC

#31919 Jan 10, 2013
The Communist minded people in America have rendered their consciences to Caesar. If the national-security state feels that people need to be killed, so be it. Conscience is abandoned in favor of meek submission to the omnipotent authority of the fascist state.
LuLu

Lenoir, NC

#31920 Jan 10, 2013
Arnold-Ziffel wrote:
<quoted text>
So Sandy victims should be denied federal help when other regions got needed relief after their own natural disasters? Why?
No, they should not be denied help, NASCAR,etc should be denied "pork". THAT is the point AZ, I believe earlier today Bacon said " you gotta start somewhere" right? She did not say don't help.

“physics is your friend”

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#31921 Jan 10, 2013
Arnold-Ziffel wrote:
<quoted text>
So Sandy victims should be denied federal help when other regions got needed relief after their own natural disasters? Why?
They were turned down? Wow.That was quick.THE govt.just said"screw em"huh? Well, that's unconscionable.Never, as long as this planet turns, will these people get help.I thought for sure there would be another vote.

“physics is your friend”

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#31922 Jan 10, 2013
Arnold Bacons point is this: Both parties play the"pork"game.I will say this, if those"Tea Party"guys had represented a state damaged by a natural disaster, I think their votes would have been different.

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#31923 Jan 10, 2013
Arnold-Ziffel wrote:
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If YOUR home and YOUR business were destroyed, you wouldn't give a shit about the pork. You would be screaming to holy hell if the government didn't help you. You really don't care about the Sandy victims because it doesn't directly effect you. You're sounding more and more like Silver. No empathy for the needs and plight of others is what you are really displaying.
Don't tell me what I would do and wouldn't. We were hit by hurricane Hugo that in addition to being a hurricane spawned small tornadoes where I live. We went over two weeks without the first sign of a power company or any kind of help. It was everyone helping themselves and then helping their neighbors. I didn't scream to holy hell, I called my insurance company which because of all the claims took a while, put a tarp over the roof that caved in from falling trees and flying debris, taped up the windows that were broken and blown out and sat with a toddler day in and day out. We were fortunate to have generators and one stayed at home and my husband took the other to work with him, so he could make money for our business that was destroyed. Eventually, some guys from the federal government did come to see our damage and were more concerned about the damn trees that had been blown down than the fact my ass was sitting in a house that was a hot mess. Cry me a river Arnold, just as you do for the Sandy victims. I didn't get squat from the government, but I'm not so empathetic that I can't feel what they're going thru, but it doesn't change my mind on helping them versus "giving" away money for "perks" that have nothing to do with their situation.

What you're displaying is called caving. It's no different than if you were to go get a $50 withdrawal from your bank and they said before we give you your money, you must help build a new concession stand at Charlotte Motor Speedway by giving us $100. Knowing you, you'd give them $100 to get your $50.

“physics is your friend”

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#31924 Jan 10, 2013
Bacon strikes back!

“physics is your friend”

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#31925 Jan 10, 2013
I held up there Bacon, I thought you would not let that go unanswered.

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#31926 Jan 10, 2013
Makin bacon wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't tell me what I would do and wouldn't. We were hit by hurricane Hugo that in addition to being a hurricane spawned small tornadoes where I live. We went over two weeks without the first sign of a power company or any kind of help. It was everyone helping themselves and then helping their neighbors. I didn't scream to holy hell, I called my insurance company which because of all the claims took a while, put a tarp over the roof that caved in from falling trees and flying debris, taped up the windows that were broken and blown out and sat with a toddler day in and day out. We were fortunate to have generators and one stayed at home and my husband took the other to work with him, so he could make money for our business that was destroyed. Eventually, some guys from the federal government did come to see our damage and were more concerned about the damn trees that had been blown down than the fact my ass was sitting in a house that was a hot mess. Cry me a river Arnold, just as you do for the Sandy victims. I didn't get squat from the government, but I'm not so empathetic that I can't feel what they're going thru, but it doesn't change my mind on helping them versus "giving" away money for "perks" that have nothing to do with their situation.
What you're displaying is called caving. It's no different than if you were to go get a $50 withdrawal from your bank and they said before we give you your money, you must help build a new concession stand at Charlotte Motor Speedway by giving us $100. Knowing you, you'd give them $100 to get your $50.
Yes, I certainly would make that deal, if it was to help the suffering of many people, particularly children, who were displaced from the aftrmath of the storm. You're rationale still sounds like Silver. You should be proud of yourself. Not really caring unless it is "me" or "mine", then the 'pork" of the deal is a distant secondary concern. You've already shown that. The dollar is more important to you than the welfare of the people.

“ We are not permanent”

Since: Oct 08

Gaston County

#31927 Jan 10, 2013
Arnold-Ziffel wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, I certainly would make that deal, if it was to help the suffering of many people, particularly children, who were displaced from the aftrmath of the storm. You're rationale still sounds like Silver. You should be proud of yourself. Not really caring unless it is "me" or "mine", then the 'pork" of the deal is a distant secondary concern. You've already shown that. The dollar is more important to you than the welfare of the people.
The welfare of the people?

"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them" - Thomas Jefferson.

Waste! That is what the Sandy Relief Bill is. If it were restricted to truly help those in need then fine but that is not the case. Politicians from both sides with their damn hands out.

As for the relief bills in the past they were a waste also. Enough is enough.

Since: Dec 11

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#31928 Jan 10, 2013
Arnold-Ziffel wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, I certainly would make that deal, if it was to help the suffering of many people, particularly children, who were displaced from the aftrmath of the storm. You're rationale still sounds like Silver. You should be proud of yourself. Not really caring unless it is "me" or "mine", then the 'pork" of the deal is a distant secondary concern. You've already shown that. The dollar is more important to you than the welfare of the people.
I am proud of myself Arnold. No pun intended but unlike you, I know when someone's trying sell me a pig in a poke. Maybe one day you'll take off the blinders and figure out that everything that goes on in Washington is not for the good of the people but for those making the decisions.

Please stop the drama with the "suffering, especially the children". Thousands of children suffer daily and I don't see you on the bandwagon about that or our political leaders in Washington turning a blind eye. You've bought right into their mantra that entitlements will make everything just alright and it's out of sight out of mind for them as long as we keep the gravy train running. Pretty soon all of you will be suffering because this country's scraping the bottom of the pan for the gravy. We're to a place where the government can't even tax its' citizens enough to get out of the debt we're in and people like you don't even question why there's no gravy in the pot. If you can't see, you gotta feel.

“Arch Nemisis of Democrats”

Since: Jun 12

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#31929 Jan 10, 2013
Arnold-Ziffel wrote:
<quoted text>And the conservative right like to call Pelosi a wack job when Boehner shows such obvious signs of emotional instability. When you can't control your own emotions, what does that say? I don't mind seeing someone cry with a purpose, but this man cries at the drop of a hat on ANYTHING. Strange man without a doubt. He is perfect for the out of touch Republicans. Just imgagine what Fox News and Rush would say about this behavior if he were a Democrat! They would be merciless, but being a Republican, they never mention it.
And Obama got emotional over new town ct. Moving on

“Arch Nemisis of Democrats”

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#31930 Jan 10, 2013
LuLu wrote:
I'm with you Bacon, I don't mind helping Sandy, I don't think NASCAR, Amtrak.Smithsonian,etc need a boost at the same time.
Agreed

Since: Dec 11

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#31931 Jan 11, 2013
Silvercoastcorks wrote:
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And Obama got emotional over new town ct. Moving on
But, I don't recall Boner getting emotional over that. Isn't that strange? Something so tragic you could really cry over, he doesn't! He crys over the rich having to pay more taxes. What an odd ball!

Since: Dec 11

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#31932 Jan 11, 2013
The Enemy Within wrote:
<quoted text>
The welfare of the people?
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them" - Thomas Jefferson.
Waste! That is what the Sandy Relief Bill is. If it were restricted to truly help those in need then fine but that is not the case. Politicians from both sides with their damn hands out.
As for the relief bills in the past they were a waste also. Enough is enough.
Totally agree TEW. All they needed to do in Congress before sending the bill to the senate was to say "We're here to decide based off estimates from the government for government purchased flood insurance, the subway system, clean up crews, DOT, and all the other agencies involved how much money is needed and take a vote, so we can start cutting checks for these people." Instead, as in the past, both side saw this hurricane as an opportunity to get what they "wanted" not "needed" rammed thru with this vote. IMO, the bill or package should have only had language regarding hurricane Sandy and nothing else and these people could have already been on their way to rebuilding their homes and businesses.

When will the people of this country wake up and see the elected officials in Washington aren't up there to work off the barter system? It's not "if you give me this then I'll give you that". Our country is being run little more than a flea market or swap meet and it has to stop.

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#31933 Jan 11, 2013
Makin bacon wrote:
<quoted text>
I am proud of myself Arnold. No pun intended but unlike you, I know when someone's trying sell me a pig in a poke. Maybe one day you'll take off the blinders and figure out that everything that goes on in Washington is not for the good of the people but for those making the decisions.
Please stop the drama with the "suffering, especially the children". Thousands of children suffer daily and I don't see you on the bandwagon about that or our political leaders in Washington turning a blind eye. You've bought right into their mantra that entitlements will make everything just alright and it's out of sight out of mind for them as long as we keep the gravy train running. Pretty soon all of you will be suffering because this country's scraping the bottom of the pan for the gravy. We're to a place where the government can't even tax its' citizens enough to get out of the debt we're in and people like you don't even question why there's no gravy in the pot. If you can't see, you gotta feel.
Money trumps the needs of people. You should be proud. Welcome to the Silver club.

Since: Dec 11

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#31934 Jan 11, 2013
Arnold-Ziffel wrote:
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Money trumps the needs of people. You should be proud. Welcome to the Silver club.
Arnold, your fellow posters on here need to welcome you to the Sheep Club. Just like dumb sheep that don't know anything better than to follow their leader, be taken care of by their leader and then be led to the slaughter. Be proud that you're being led around like a dumb farm animal that is literally and figuratively spesking being killed with kindness. Baaaaaa, baaaaa, baaaaaa...

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