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#31347 Dec 30, 2012
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>I did not claim you were discussing gay marriage, but I showed the topic is related. I see you are just going to run from the substance of it as always.
Mike, I believe on more than one occasion, I have stated I believe marriage is between a man and a woman. Comprehend? I'm not running from anything of substance. The fact is, you tried to backdoor the post with gay marriage and it didn't work. If we were talking about gay marriage, I probably wouldn't have even responded because you and Arnold both know my stand on it. Why didn't you start a complete new topic about gay marriage, infidelity and divorce (the latter two we were discussing) instead of ramming gay marriage into a conversation about heterosexual marriage and evangelicals? Another mountain out of a molehill by you.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#31348 Dec 30, 2012
Makin bacon wrote:
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Mike, I believe on more than one occasion, I have stated I believe marriage is between a man and a woman. Comprehend? I'm not running from anything of substance. The fact is, you tried to backdoor the post with gay marriage and it didn't work. If we were talking about gay marriage, I probably wouldn't have even responded because you and Arnold both know my stand on it. Why didn't you start a complete new topic about gay marriage, infidelity and divorce (the latter two we were discussing) instead of ramming gay marriage into a conversation about heterosexual marriage and evangelicals? Another mountain out of a molehill by you.
Just wanted to point out your double standards. You are for choice in marraige, as long as it is with who you approve of.
Just wanted to point out your hatred of true freedom and equality.
Gail

Chicago, IL

#31349 Dec 30, 2012
waco1909 wrote:
America....is for...about....and run...by lawyers....how that , anyone, is surprised by a lawsuit.....puzzles me...considering the rampant greed in this world....
How you be so smart Jeffrey? You almost as smart as I be. You be a man boy of the world with all you wisdom and intelligence. Your first grade teacher must be very proud of your first grader knowledge and your mama too. Now be a good boy and make sure you listen to your mama and stay out of trouble, eat all your vegetables and wash your your hands before you eat your supper. And don't forget to brush your teeth!

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#31350 Dec 30, 2012
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Just wanted to point out your double standards. You are for choice in marraige, as long as it is with who you approve of.
Just wanted to point out your hatred of true freedom and equality.
Mike, I think the same thing could be said about you. You are for choice in marriage as long as it with who you approve of. If you're speaking of freedom, true freedom, even though you don't agree with my choice then you would uphold my freedom as well as those that are "your choice." If you want equality, practice what you preach.

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#31351 Dec 30, 2012
Taxpayer wrote:
Being the coward you are you let criminals go. How many of people did they rob or hurt after you? Maybe the one that stabbed to death the young girl was the one you run from. Your socialist mind is garbage and disgusting. You are no better than the criminals.
You people are guttless coward and you are the biggest threat to American.
Taxpayer, did this come from the Communist Manifesto or the Republican platform? Sometimes I can't tell the difference. When are you going to tell me the communist beliefs that I have from the Communist Manifesto, or is that just a buzz word you heard Rush say one day? Come on, define me from the Manifesto. How many times do I have to ask before you deliver?

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#31352 Dec 30, 2012
Makin bacon wrote:
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Mike, I think the same thing could be said about you. You are for choice in marriage as long as it with who you approve of. If you're speaking of freedom, true freedom, even though you don't agree with my choice then you would uphold my freedom as well as those that are "your choice." If you want equality, practice what you preach.
You can believe in your choices all you like, but what you actually support in reality is the true measure of freedom.

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#31353 Dec 30, 2012
Arnold-Ziffel wrote:
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You can believe in your choices all you like, but what you actually support in reality is the true measure of freedom.
Gee Arnold, is it just me, but are not your choices made off your beliefs? If I believe something, I support it. I consider that a true measure of my freedom and yours'.

“Seek Light”

Since: May 12

Houston

#31354 Dec 30, 2012
Gail wrote:
<quoted text>How you be so smart Jeffrey? You almost as smart as I be. You be a man boy of the world with all you wisdom and intelligence. Your first grade teacher must be very proud of your first grader knowledge and your mama too. Now be a good boy and make sure you listen to your mama and stay out of trouble, eat all your vegetables and wash your your hands before you eat your supper. And don't forget to brush your teeth!
Strangely enough Gail, I've never has any cavities..I've been checking all your forums....my.....your are prolific...i'm beginning to think they are paying you....

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#31355 Dec 30, 2012
Makin bacon wrote:
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Gee Arnold, is it just me, but are not your choices made off your beliefs? If I believe something, I support it. I consider that a true measure of my freedom and yours'.
I don't think we are talking about personal choices. I think the question is the freedom and equality of all people on a level playing field in our society. I could say that I believe that all white people should pay back slavery to blacks by placing all white people into bondage, but even though this would be my view, this belief would not promote freedom and equality for white people. Just as if I would believe that homosexuals should not marry, that may be my personal belief, but it does not promote freedom, equlity and a level playing field for all homosexuals. To exclude anyone from any of the freedoms that are given to all others is discrimination against that group. Do you understand my statement now?

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#31356 Dec 30, 2012
waco1909 wrote:
<quoted text> Strangely enough Gail, I've never has any cavities..I've been checking all your forums....my.....your are prolific...i'm beginning to think they are paying you....
Watch out, Waco. Don't lead her to fall in love with you, too. That's my girl.

“Seek Light”

Since: May 12

Houston

#31357 Dec 30, 2012
Arnold-Ziffel wrote:
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Watch out, Waco. Don't lead her to fall in love with you, too. That's my girl.
Obviously, she no longer cares about you, as she spends most of her time and various identities on me.....you finished second, old man!

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#31358 Dec 30, 2012
waco1909 wrote:
<quoted text> Obviously, she no longer cares about you, as she spends most of her time and various identities on me.....you finished second, old man!
Now, you are making me cry, when otherwise, I was having such a good day. Dog gone it!

“Seek Light”

Since: May 12

Houston

#31359 Dec 30, 2012
Arnold-Ziffel wrote:
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Now, you are making me cry, when otherwise, I was having such a good day. Dog gone it!
Into each life...a little rain....

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#31360 Dec 30, 2012
waco1909 wrote:
<quoted text> Into each life...a little rain....
My deluged flooding eyes reveal the pain that drowns my heart.

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#31361 Dec 30, 2012
Watch out for all the Negroes that pull into your driveway. One of them may be a redbone.

“Seek Light”

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#31362 Dec 30, 2012
Arnold-Ziffel wrote:
Watch out for all the Negroes that pull into your driveway. One of them may be a redbone.
We don't use the term"Negroes"anymore .it's"Blacks".What's the matter with you AZ? THIS IS THE 21ST CENTURY! OOH, WOE IS ME!

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#31363 Dec 30, 2012
waco1909 wrote:
<quoted text> We don't use the term"Negroes"anymore .it's"Blacks".What's the matter with you AZ? THIS IS THE 21ST CENTURY! OOH, WOE IS ME!
Yea, I was just returning briefly to the 19th Century for a minute using the polite term for the N word. Unfortunately, Gail has not reached this point of politeness yet. "Redbone"...that's a new one for me. I like that. Wait until I tell the other brothers.

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#31364 Dec 30, 2012
Arnold-Ziffel wrote:
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I don't think we are talking about personal choices. I think the question is the freedom and equality of all people on a level playing field in our society. I could say that I believe that all white people should pay back slavery to blacks by placing all white people into bondage, but even though this would be my view, this belief would not promote freedom and equality for white people. Just as if I would believe that homosexuals should not marry, that may be my personal belief, but it does not promote freedom, equlity and a level playing field for all homosexuals. To exclude anyone from any of the freedoms that are given to all others is discrimination against that group. Do you understand my statement now?
Arnold, when did we (everyone) lose the freedom for personal thought and beliefs? A personal thought or belief doesn't always change a situation, but for me, it doesn't change my choice/thought/belief whatever you want to call it. As you feel strongly for gay marriage, you have the choice to fight for it. As I don't feel as you about gay marriage, I have the same choice not to embrace it. I don't give you grief about endorsing gay marriage, nor will I, just don't expect me to support it. I do and will respect your choice to support anything (not bad things like killing etc) you want to, but it doesn't mean I will always agree. Again, you guys forget that people that disagree with you have the freedom to do so and it doesn't make anyone that disagrees with you a bad person. Where's my freedom and leveling the playing ground when my personal thoughts and beliefs go against yours'?

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#31365 Dec 30, 2012
Makin bacon wrote:
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Arnold, when did we (everyone) lose the freedom for personal thought and beliefs? A personal thought or belief doesn't always change a situation, but for me, it doesn't change my choice/thought/belief whatever you want to call it. As you feel strongly for gay marriage, you have the choice to fight for it. As I don't feel as you about gay marriage, I have the same choice not to embrace it. I don't give you grief about endorsing gay marriage, nor will I, just don't expect me to support it. I do and will respect your choice to support anything (not bad things like killing etc) you want to, but it doesn't mean I will always agree. Again, you guys forget that people that disagree with you have the freedom to do so and it doesn't make anyone that disagrees with you a bad person. Where's my freedom and leveling the playing ground when my personal thoughts and beliefs go against yours'?
Human rights have nothing to do with people's personal beliefs. As I pointed out, my personal belief could be to enslave all white people, but at the same time, that would make it unfair for all white people. The end result of the Marriage Amendment vote is that homosexuals do not have the same rights as heterosexuals in regard to marriage, at least in NC they don't. My belief is that this issue is coming before the Supreme Court soon, and I think you will see the Amendment overturned in the states that have denied it. At least, that is my hope, and that is OK with me if your personal view is to see it upheld. I just want an equal playing field for everyone in America, and right now, it is not.

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#31366 Dec 30, 2012
Arnold-Ziffel wrote:
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Human rights have nothing to do with people's personal beliefs. As I pointed out, my personal belief could be to enslave all white people, but at the same time, that would make it unfair for all white people. The end result of the Marriage Amendment vote is that homosexuals do not have the same rights as heterosexuals in regard to marriage, at least in NC they don't. My belief is that this issue is coming before the Supreme Court soon, and I think you will see the Amendment overturned in the states that have denied it. At least, that is my hope, and that is OK with me if your personal view is to see it upheld. I just want an equal playing field for everyone in America, and right now, it is not.
Arnold, I've read where gay marriage will be heard before the SCOTUS. If the SCOTUS decides all amendments are overturned in every state, hey that's on them not me, still won't change my personal belief. I'm not going to riot in the street, or set my hair on fire and run around the frontyard naked because of a decision I don't agree with. It will be what it will be and though I would disagree, if it's the law, it's the law. Doesn't make me a bad person to disagree with same sex marriage, it's how I believe whether the SCOTUS changes the law or not.

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