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#29916 Dec 9, 2012
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>You post scripture of the bible. Are you saying this must be true?
If so, then you are of religion.
Lets look closely at this scripture.
29 Then Jesus told him,“Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”
The Purpose of John’s Gospel
30 Jesus performed many other signs in the presence of his disciples, which are not recorded in this book. 31 But these are written that you may believe[a] that Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.
So why is one blessed just because they believe without seeing? The bible does not say, do you have an answer?
I do not believe just because some claim is written. This scripture seems to think if something is written, it is evidence of a true claim. Do you believe claims just because they are "written"? If so, then you follow religion, and that would contradict what you agreed with Waco on.
I see it this way. Any leader would love for you to believe his words are perfect and of a god, just due to it being written. So the motive to say this is strong. But anyone who believes such a claim without evidence is just gullible.
If you fall for this, it makes me understand you falling for all sorts of propaganda that is devoid of evidence.
Mike, do you believe in "blind faith"?

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#29917 Dec 9, 2012
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>So if I do not respond within three hours of someones post, you think I have no rebuttal? You clearly cannot see a trend.
I'd say you have no sane rebuttal.
Maumeaux

France

#29918 Dec 9, 2012
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Oh, look, another childish poster from the opposition. Does your team have any grownups?
Care to actually try and refute my post, or are you just going to personally attack me?
I see you have no rebuttal.
The words of a wise man's mouth are gracious,
But the lips of a fool shall swallow him up;
The words of his mouth begin with foolishness,
And the end of his talk is raving madness.
A fool also multitudes his words.
No one knows what is to be;
Who can tell the fool what will be after him?
Ecclesiastes 10:12-14
Maumeaux

France

#29919 Dec 9, 2012
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>You post scripture of the bible. Are you saying this must be true?
If so, then you are of religion.
Lets look closely at this scripture.
29 Then Jesus told him,“Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”
The Purpose of John’s Gospel
30 Jesus performed many other signs in the presence of his disciples, which are not recorded in this book. 31 But these are written that you may believe[a] that Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.
So why is one blessed just because they believe without seeing? The bible does not say, do you have an answer?
I do not believe just because some claim is written. This scripture seems to think if something is written, it is evidence of a true claim. Do you believe claims just because they are "written"? If so, then you follow religion, and that would contradict what you agreed with Waco on.
I see it this way. Any leader would love for you to believe his words are perfect and of a god, just due to it being written. So the motive to say this is strong. But anyone who believes such a claim without evidence is just gullible.
If you fall for this, it makes me understand you falling for all sorts of propaganda that is devoid of evidence.
The fool has said in his heart, "There is no God."
They are corrupt, They have done abominable works,
There is none who does good. Psalm 14:1

The way of a fool is right in his own eyes,
But he who heeds counsel is wise. Proverbs 12:15

Wisdom is too lofty for a fool;
He does not open his mouth in the gate. Proverbs 24:7

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#29920 Dec 9, 2012
Maumeaux wrote:
<quoted text>
The words of a wise man's mouth are gracious,
But the lips of a fool shall swallow him up;
The words of his mouth begin with foolishness,
And the end of his talk is raving madness.
A fool also multitudes his words.
No one knows what is to be;
Who can tell the fool what will be after him?
Ecclesiastes 10:12-14
That really is outstanding.

Since: Dec 11

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#29921 Dec 9, 2012
Maumeaux wrote:
<quoted text>
The fool has said in his heart, "There is no God."
They are corrupt, They have done abominable works,
There is none who does good. Psalm 14:1
The way of a fool is right in his own eyes,
But he who heeds counsel is wise. Proverbs 12:15
Wisdom is too lofty for a fool;
He does not open his mouth in the gate. Proverbs 24:7
King Solomon, the accepted writer of Provebs, had 700 wives and 300 concibines.....When did he find time to do any writing? I wonder how the current laws would treat him today?

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#29922 Dec 9, 2012
Arnold-Ziffel wrote:
<quoted text>
King Solomon, the accepted writer of Provebs, had 700 wives and 300 concibines.....When did he find time to do any writing? I wonder how the current laws would treat him today?
Sorry for this, but maybe he was a minuteman.

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#29923 Dec 9, 2012
Arnold-Ziffel wrote:
<quoted text>
King Solomon, the accepted writer of Provebs, had 700 wives and 300 concibines.....When did he find time to do any writing? I wonder how the current laws would treat him today?
Arnold, you left out the fact he lived to be only 60 years old and God said he was the wisest man (human) after Him. I figure if he could juggle all those women, not only write, but edit the scriptures he's given credit for; today's law would have been a breeze for him.:) The man accomplished a lot in 60 years which is a short lifespan even by today's standards, you think today's laws would have tripped him up?

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Since: May 12

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#29924 Dec 9, 2012
Maumeaux wrote:
<quoted text>
The fool has said in his heart, "There is no God."
They are corrupt, They have done abominable works,
There is none who does good. Psalm 14:1
The way of a fool is right in his own eyes,
But he who heeds counsel is wise. Proverbs 12:15
Wisdom is too lofty for a fool;
He does not open his mouth in the gate. Proverbs 24:7
You're getting good at this...
Maumeaux

France

#29925 Dec 9, 2012
Arnold-Ziffel wrote:
<quoted text>
King Solomon, the accepted writer of Provebs, had 700 wives and 300 concibines.....When did he find time to do any writing? I wonder how the current laws would treat him today?
When God asked Solomon at the beginning of his reign to name a gift, he asked for "wisdom and knowledge" to rule the Israelite people well(2 Ch 1:10). God granted this. Most of Solomon's proverbs were written during his early years as king, before he was led astray by "many foreign women" to include seven hundred wives, princesses, and 300 concubines from many kingdoms, which Solomon had treaties (1 Kg 11:1,3). The Bible clearly notes that Solomon had faults as well as elements of greatness. The bottom line is God kept His Word to Solomon by granting him his wisdom and knowledge.

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#29926 Dec 9, 2012
emlu wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry for this, but maybe he was a minuteman.
Compared to me...everyone is....LOL...

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#29927 Dec 9, 2012
Maumeaux wrote:
<quoted text>When God asked Solomon at the beginning of his reign to name a gift, he asked for "wisdom and knowledge" to rule the Israelite people well(2 Ch 1:10). God granted this. Most of Solomon's proverbs were written during his early years as king, before he was led astray by "many foreign women" to include seven hundred wives, princesses, and 300 concubines from many kingdoms, which Solomon had treaties (1 Kg 11:1,3). The Bible clearly notes that Solomon had faults as well as elements of greatness. The bottom line is God kept His Word to Solomon by granting him his wisdom and knowledge.
Having 700 wives is not my idea of a wise man. Having 700 books...well, that's more like it.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

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#29928 Dec 9, 2012
LuLu wrote:
<quoted text>"Today it is possible to not only read hieroglyphics, but also the ancient cuneiform writings. Astoundingly, the ancient relics have succeeded in silencing many of the Biblical critics. The harmony between Scripture and archaeological findings has shed new light upon the debate."
http://amazingdiscoveries.org/S-deception_arc...
Thought you might want to check this site, a pastor said I should check it because I asked him about Biblical writings "other" than the Bible. It's quite interesting how there is a correlation between the "written word" and "ancient hieroglyphics".
I read quite a bit of it, and could find no scriptures cited that actually lined up with anything they claimed. The few scriptures they posted, showed no correlation. Not sure what you see in this site, but I see a lot of babbling about nothing specific, and a lot of trying to make the bible sound as if it has some evidence.
The article starts out that it silenced the critics. Give me a break. Pure propaganda.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#29929 Dec 9, 2012
Maumeaux wrote:
<quoted text>
The fool has said in his heart, "There is no God."
They are corrupt, They have done abominable works,
There is none who does good. Psalm 14:1
The way of a fool is right in his own eyes,
But he who heeds counsel is wise. Proverbs 12:15
Wisdom is too lofty for a fool;
He does not open his mouth in the gate. Proverbs 24:7
So the bible calls atheist fools? No shit? Guess that proves it is true. I cannot refute it, because the bible claims it.

Let me test this scripture. Do you think all atheists have never once done good? If not, then the scripture is proven false. Thus, the bible is suspect.
BTW, Bill Gates is atheist, and he gave about twenty billion to charity.
So does this verse fit Gates? There is none who does good. Psalm 14:1

Now lets look at the other scripture you posted.
The way of a fool is right in his own eyes,
But he who heeds counsel is wise. Proverbs 12:15

So do you think you are right about god? If so, then you are claiming to be 'right in your own eyes'.

Oh, and just who do you think never seeks counsel?

Do you even think for a second about how stupid these verses are? Do you ever scrutinize the logic?

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#29930 Dec 9, 2012
Maumeaux wrote:
<quoted text>When God asked Solomon at the beginning of his reign to name a gift, he asked for "wisdom and knowledge" to rule the Israelite people well(2 Ch 1:10). God granted this. Most of Solomon's proverbs were written during his early years as king, before he was led astray by "many foreign women" to include seven hundred wives, princesses, and 300 concubines from many kingdoms, which Solomon had treaties (1 Kg 11:1,3). The Bible clearly notes that Solomon had faults as well as elements of greatness. The bottom line is God kept His Word to Solomon by granting him his wisdom and knowledge.
Kings being granted wisdom by god? I can see Karl Rove's wheels spinning now. It's just politics man, why can't you see that?

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#29931 Dec 9, 2012
Maumeaux wrote:
<quoted text>
The words of a wise man's mouth are gracious,
But the lips of a fool shall swallow him up;
The words of his mouth begin with foolishness,
And the end of his talk is raving madness.
A fool also multitudes his words.
No one knows what is to be;
Who can tell the fool what will be after him?
Ecclesiastes 10:12-14
You still have no rebuttal I see.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#29932 Dec 9, 2012
waco1909 wrote:
<quoted text> You're getting good at this...
I thought you did not follow religion? Yet you are applauding religious scripture that calls atheists fools and do all that is wrong? Do you think I do all that is wrong? Be honest now.

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Since: May 12

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#29933 Dec 9, 2012
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>I read quite a bit of it, and could find no scriptures cited that actually lined up with anything they claimed. The few scriptures they posted, showed no correlation. Not sure what you see in this site, but I see a lot of babbling about nothing specific, and a lot of trying to make the bible sound as if it has some evidence.
The article starts out that it silenced the critics. Give me a break. Pure propaganda.
Mike that's because your mind is closed to all facts that don't fit in with your worldview.Your mind is so inflexible it lowers your IQ by thirty points.

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Since: Dec 10

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#29934 Dec 9, 2012
waco1909 wrote:
<quoted text> ODDLY enough, Neanderthals actually had larger brains than CRO-Magnons.
Yes, but the frontal lobe is the critical part that they lacked. Size is not everything.

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#29935 Dec 9, 2012
Mere "correlation", words and pictures go together. Kinda like first grade learning of, seeing a picture, and then learning to write what it is and so on. I believe, to simplify, pictures came before the written word, or maybe the Dead Sea Scrolls. "Silencing MANY OF THE" Biblical critics. We like to keep the words correct on here.

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