When I quote the bible, it is almost always to show it is promoting a certain idea. Not sure why I even have to explain that to you. The bible promotes inequality for women. I showed several scriptures that did this. One person showed one scripture that they thought said otherwise, but was not specific at all about equality on earth.<quoted text>
Mike, not trying to butt into your posts to seven, it was the shortest post to use to ask you a question.
I'm not confused with you being an atheist; however, I'm confused with your use of the Bible as a point of reference. If you don't believe the Bible, why do you use it and why do you believe what only bolsters what you want to argue. Let's take the treatment of women spoken of in the Bible and your posting of scriptures about the how they were treated with inequality. Do you actually think this happened or are you saying the Bible promotes it. They're two different concepts. Either you believe the Bible if you use it for a reference when it bolsters your argument or you don't believe it at all. You've heard the old saying "you're not just a little bit pregnant, either you are or you're aren't"? Which is it? You spoke the other day of Lu cherry picking scriptures, you're doing the same thing. TSF had a great example of people believing in God through personal experience when he used the story about Paul on the road to Damascus being struck down blind. Paul then heard a voice that asked Paul or Saul of Tarsus(?) at the time that said why do you persecute me. Saul's mission at the time of this event was to rid the world of christianity because he didn't believe in the truth of it. However, this nonbeliever who slaughtered many a man because of their belief in christianity, used the words "Who art thou, Lord?" At that point and through this experience, Saul, later named Paul, knew exactly to whom he was speaking. Just because you haven't had a personal experience with God, doesn't take away from those who have and believe. Mike, for some people there are just things that happen daily for which there is no explanation and to ask someone to explain the whole Bible or even the story of Paul is unfair because there's not always an explanation. IMO, one must personalize the Bible, his religious belief etc and work through it on a personal basis. You telling people God doesn't exist is your opinion. Many people say they've seen bigfoot, to be honest I don't there's a bigfoot, but I can't flat out call people liars because they say they've seen him and he's real.
The religious right often says or does things that are not in the spirit of equality.
Now moving on, I know many claim to have been abducted by aliens, but I believe exactly none of them. Many believe they see ghosts. I believe none of them. Maybe they did see something, but that does not mean it was a ghost. Paul may have seen something, but what Paul and many people do not understand is, the mind can play tricks on you. I believe the superstitious think their minds cannot play tricks on them. Some people have dreams and think it was a real life experience. I have even had this happen to myself. I literally could not remember if a memory was a reality, or was it something I dreamed. Some that do not know of this phenomenon, would likely have no doubt it was of a real experience.
The bible often speaks of visions of god or angels that came in a dream. If someone today told you they were visited by and angel in a dream, would you think that was a real visit from an angel? Humans have delusions, ask your sister about that.
BTW, I think Paul had motive to lie, and I think he lied quite often. Biblical scholars say the writings of Paul are not of one person. There is clearly more than one writing style. In those days, evidently it was common to write using someone else's name, say the experts.
I see people like Paul, the same as I see Jerry Falwell. I have no reason to believe a word they say.