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Taxpayer

Point Harbor, NC

#29801 Dec 6, 2012
TSF wrote:
I favor a flat tax on all income with no loopholes, no subsidies, no incentives,no sweetheart deals , no kickbacks or bid rigging, no exemptions, no exclusions.
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Really! That's good but what happen to the get the rich scam?
TSF

Kenly, NC

#29802 Dec 6, 2012
I have never advocated soaking the rich. All I want is for them to pay the same tax RATE that everyone else pays. We just can no longer afford welfare/socialism for the rich. I know republikans want to cut social security (which is still self sustaining) so that they can give tax breaks to the rich. That reverse socialism just isn't going to continue because the public is starting to pay attention to what happens their money.
Taxpayer wrote:
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Really! That's good but what happen to the get the rich scam?
TSF

Kenly, NC

#29803 Dec 6, 2012
Republikans can't lead, cant follow and can't get out of the way. Republikans are so accustomed to obstructing that they are now refusing to raise taxes on the rich to avoid raising taxes even more on the rich --and everyone else. Does anyone see a disconnect in that logic?
This is kind of a parallel the the pre election decision by republikans to present a presidential candidate who would force their prejudicial evangelical Christians to chose between voting for a Christian or the white guy.
But then , no one has actually accused republicans of being logical.

Since: Sep 12

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#29804 Dec 6, 2012
TSF wrote:
I have never advocated soaking the rich. All I want is for them to pay the same tax RATE that everyone else pays. We just can no longer afford welfare/socialism for the rich. I know republikans want to cut social security (which is still self sustaining) so that they can give tax breaks to the rich. That reverse socialism just isn't going to continue because the public is starting to pay attention to what happens their money.
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So, is it that you think the public has not been paying attention to what has been happening to their money? Please explain "welfare/socialism for the rich".

Since: Sep 12

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#29805 Dec 6, 2012
TSF wrote:
Republikans can't lead, cant follow and can't get out of the way. Republikans are so accustomed to obstructing that they are now refusing to raise taxes on the rich to avoid raising taxes even more on the rich --and everyone else. Does anyone see a disconnect in that logic?
This is kind of a parallel the the pre election decision by republikans to present a presidential candidate who would force their prejudicial evangelical Christians to chose between voting for a Christian or the white guy.
But then , no one has actually accused republicans of being logical.
Are you opposed to first cutting wasteful programs, shrimp on treadmills, so to speak, and then raising taxes. I, think there are "wasteful" programs out there that have been funded for so long that they may be outdated.
TSF

Kenly, NC

#29806 Dec 6, 2012
Yes. I ,TSF , am very afraid--- that republikans will perpetuate ignorance and limit our future by destroying public education,---that republikans will destroy religious freedom in the USA by codifying their religion into law,--that republikans will continue to crush working people with taxes that the rich escape,-- that republikans will continue allow foreign corporate owners to buy our elections,-- that republikans will continue giving away our natural resources (oil, coal, timber, gas etc),---that the republikan party's corruption will so weaken the party that they become unable to balance and oppose some of the democrat party's left wind nut ideas.
Taxpayer wrote:
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So TSF is too much of a coward to stand up for itís self? There is not one thing honest with your debate if that is what you call the junk you put out.

Since: Sep 12

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#29807 Dec 6, 2012
emlu wrote:
<quoted text>Are you opposed to first cutting wasteful programs, shrimp on treadmills, so to speak, and then raising taxes. I, think there are "wasteful" programs out there that have been funded for so long that they may be outdated.
Sorry about replying to my own post, but this link is outdated, it's from 2005, but it shows some funded programs that are just stupid. Maybe Washington should start here and the look at raising taxes.

http://funding-programs.idilogic.aidpage.com/
TSF

Kenly, NC

#29808 Dec 6, 2012
Unfortunately, the public and congress has been unable to comprehend the enormity of our debt problem. I see congressmen speaking with obvious ignorance of the difference between debt and deficit. I see continued blind faith trust in the discredited "voodoo economics" idea that cutting taxes raises tax revenues. Our members of congress are too old to still believe in the tooth fairy. Now we are at the point that we either work together to right the ship or all sink with it.
Welfare/socialism to the rich? We are giving away 1.3 trillion dollars annually to the rich in loopholes, subsidies, exemptions, exclusions, incentives, no bid contracts, etc. By contrast, the total cost of all the payout to baby mommas, all the unemployed, all the WIC, all the food stamps, etc (all social programs combined) is less than 0.8 trillion dollars.
It doesn't matter if I oppose it or not, the reality is that socialism to the rich and poor has to stop in order to get our house in order. It would be nice if the tooth fairy was right and we could get out by just starving the poor or by soaking the rich. Unfortunately, we have to do both. Taking monetary policy away from the federal reserve bank will also be necessary but very politically messy. The last president to attempt that was JFK. We would not be in this present mess if he had been sucessful.
emlu wrote:
<quoted text>So, is it that you think the public has not been paying attention to what has been happening to their money? Please explain "welfare/socialism for the rich".
TSF

Kenly, NC

#29809 Dec 6, 2012
Those are astoundingly stupid but represent only a drop in an ocean of theft fraud, subsidies, loopholes, exemptions, incentives, etc.

For example: In NC state government, 3 cents of every tax dollar goes to corporate incentives with no assurance that jobs will be creatd.
emlu wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry about replying to my own post, but this link is outdated, it's from 2005, but it shows some funded programs that are just stupid. Maybe Washington should start here and the look at raising taxes.
http://funding-programs.idilogic.aidpage.com/

“Seek Light”

Since: May 12

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#29810 Dec 6, 2012
TSF you are very intelligent.Too smart to run for office...

“Anasasis Xenophontis.”

Since: Dec 08

over there.

#29811 Dec 6, 2012
Makin bacon wrote:
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Number three, if Bacon spoke for you, you would know how to spell the number, "two".
o my fking god bacon, your so clever. Like I give a damn about my grammar after working on a thesis for 2 hrs.

“Anasasis Xenophontis.”

Since: Dec 08

over there.

#29812 Dec 6, 2012
waco1909 wrote:
<quoted text> Religion flew those planes into the WTC? Thought it was a bunch of fanatical Saudis...People always gonna find a reason to justify their evil....
fanatical and extremist muslims declaring holy war on America and believing that their martydom was justified.

“Seek Light”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#29813 Dec 6, 2012
sevenSecrets wrote:
<quoted text>fanatical and extremist muslims declaring holy war on America and believing that their martydom was justified.
Hate always finds a way there seven....free flow of information is the biggest enemy for muslims....their women are saying hmmmm....why can't I GO TO SCHOOL? WHY CAN'T I DRIVE? Why can't I be a DOCTOR?

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#29814 Dec 6, 2012
emlu wrote:
<quoted text>It's OK waco, before the election, I was told to post links to support my opinion, now it's give an opinion on my links. So, I have decided to post links that support my opinion. I find it less repetitive.
To hard to do both? I do not ask for a link to all opinions,mostly if you make a firm claim that sounds false.
Clearly you cannot even comprehend what the hell I am talking about. This is not that complicated.

Since: Dec 11

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#29815 Dec 6, 2012
sevenSecrets wrote:
<quoted text>o my fking god bacon, your so clever. Like I give a damn about my grammar after working on a thesis for 2 hrs.
Work two more years and you may learn the difference in grammar and spelling. I questioned your spelling, not your grammar.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#29816 Dec 6, 2012
waco1909 wrote:
<quoted text> I'm rebutting your ignorant claim! I SAID it was because DEMARK doesn't put all their citizens in jail for BULLSHIT drug offenses! Got it?
That is not exactly rebutting my claim, it is another claim.
If you were actually rebutting my claim, you would be giving reasons my claim is incorrect.
I know debating is really complicated.

So please clarify your claim. Are the drug laws more lax there, or are they just not putting people in jail for breaking the law?

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#29817 Dec 6, 2012
emlu wrote:
<quoted text>It's OK waco, before the election, I was told to post links to support my opinion, now it's give an opinion on my links. So, I have decided to post links that support my opinion. I find it less repetitive.
So am I to assume every statement in articles or links you post are of you exact opinion?
Again, I would never let anyone else speak for me in such a way. I can speak for myself. It is so sad you cannot.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#29818 Dec 6, 2012
Makin bacon wrote:
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I hopped over here and just about missed your post because your picture is gone?? First, we're not talking about every other country on the planet, we're discussing the U.S. Secondly, if I must be honest, I don't always reply to Taxpayer because I don't understand his posts. Doesn't mean he's wrong, just means I don't understand and he got a little testy with me one time about gun safety and I decided to leave him alone. As for his party affiliation, I haven't figured that out either, so your guess is as good as mine. Mike, this is how I feel and if you feel the need, you can name it a new "ism". Ownership of property is not just my yard, car or home, it's the money I worked for that I own. It's mine, therefore IMO, it's my property. When I'm told by the government that a group of people make too much money, or have acquired too much money and they need to tax them a "little more" to help our country through no fault of the citizens that didn't make the tax laws to begin with, spent our money like drunken sailors and now owe other countries and are having to print money, why does anyone need to "pay a little more"? If the new "paying a little more" doesn't work; what's next, pay a little more, pay a little more etc. Let's be real here, there's the haves, the kind of haves and the have nots. I think all classes should pay a flat tax and be done with it. Back to the communism thing, when people work hard and manage to make a decent life for themselves, only in the U.S. are you punished for it through taxation. This is so all the perks and programs of the politicians and people that own them get pushed through. If these politicians and their buddies that bought them like these programs, tax the heck out of them and leave my money alone. While we're at it, when a government can force you to buy a commodity of ANY KIND i.e. healthcare or punish you again through penalities or taxation, what's next? When did our government get bold enough to tell us how to spend our money that we made and paid taxes on? That's not called freedom, it's called taking from one class and giving to another, so everybody will be equal. Well quess what, everybody's not equal financially and that's not my problem. Where will government intervention stop in our lives?
Where will it stop? Who knows, but acting like this relatively small intervention compared to many other countries is communism, makes the word lose its real meaning. Just as how you compare taxation to ownership by the government.
I know we are talking about America, but when doing so, I use other countries to compare for perspective.
I think no one is raising taxes because they claim some make "too much". The claim is, "they make enough to pay more". Seems republicans keep getting this confused.
Keep in mind, the tax rate has lowered drastically in the past fifty years, so a small increase for a few is not reversing the overall lower tax rate of yesteryear. Tweaking always must be done to balance the budget. And keep in mind, republicans voted for much of the spending that needs to be paid down.
Also keep in mind, Democrats are on board for compromise in cuts versus taxes. Again, balance is key.
The theory is, spending must be more in times of recession, to boost or at least stabilize the economy. And the spending did make it relatively stable compared to the drastic downturn during Bush.
The theory is, pay down the debt in the good times and spend in the bad. Bush and the republican congress failed to pay down the debt in the good times, and spent to much. Basically, he failed to save for a rainy day. This is common, and I think this is what needs to always be focused on. Next time the economy is well, that is when the clamp should be put on spending. If this happened, no tax hikes would be needed.
Republicans helped make this bed they now refuse to sleep in.
Thanks for posting some good substance here.

“Seek Light”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#29819 Dec 6, 2012
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>That is not exactly rebutting my claim, it is another claim.
If you were actually rebutting my claim, you would be giving reasons my claim is incorrect.
I know debating is really complicated.
So please clarify your claim. Are the drug laws more lax there, or are they just not putting people in jail for breaking the law?
71 per one hundred thousand to 715 per one hundred thousand....I don't know dude, what do you think?

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#29820 Dec 6, 2012
waco1909 wrote:
<quoted text> Religion flew those planes into the WTC? Thought it was a bunch of fanatical Saudis...People always gonna find a reason to justify their evil....
I feel it was religion foremost. The Saudi Muslims were brainwashed by blind belief in god, that martyrdom would be rewarded in the afterlife.
They believed America was infringing upon their religious lifestyle, which the Koran demands one must fight to the death to keep.
We are infidels in their eyes.
Without the religious belief, they would be far less likely to have done what they did. Religion is the tool for war, and this is a perfect example. Ignore and deny it at your peril.

The bible speaks of war for martyrdom also. It commands one to kill infidels also. And many did all throughout history, in the Judeo/Christian gods name. It is claimed in the bible and documented in the history books. It is still happening in Africa today. The lords resistance army.

So when Christians deny 9/11 had anything to do with religion, it reeks of protectionism of their own faith.

If you do not understand the problem, you will never be able to find solutions for them.
Promoting blind faith only emboldens and justifies them. Protecting religion from scrutiny is part of the problem. This is why I speak out on religion. So when I see you guys run from the scrutiny, it shows me why we have a problem.
I have no doubt the 9/11 terrorists also refused to debate their beliefs.

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