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#29701 Dec 4, 2012
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Never been in the NCDC's,never been married, nor never managed a gay bar, but keep on trying to slander me when you have no answers, as it is clear, I just kicked your ass as evidenced by your default.Grow up please.
I am sure no one will condemn your behavior, as it seems only I am an asshole here. The double standards are clear and stark.
You said it, we didn't.

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#29702 Dec 4, 2012
waco1909 wrote:
<quoted text> Well Mike everybody has an opinion hmmm?
Not sure, as Emlu does not seem to offer hers.

I am asking for opinions, in case you are confused, but I want explanations of why the opinion is good. If you cannot supply, then your opinion is either not good, or maybe you just do not know why you feel what you do. Maybe you just cannot articulate it. Either way, it makes for a non debate, and this is a debate forum.
So you guys can refuse to debate all you wish, and I will continue to ridicule you for doing so. Again, this is a debate forum. Just in case you missed that, this is a debate forum.

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#29703 Dec 4, 2012
emlu wrote:
<quoted text>State law says you cannot serve alcohol to anyone who is
impaired. However, North Carolina laws state that you can
allow impaired customers to stay at your place, as long as they
are not consuming alcoholic beverages or being disorderly.
Invite them to remain and to eat something.
The Impaired Customer
Continued
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www.ncabc.com
Dram Shop 101
Ok, but .08 is not really detectable to the server. "impaired" is subjective. Likely why I have never seen this law being enforced.

Of course I do cut off someone who is overly impaired in my opinion, and there are rules to how much one can serve an individual.

None of this changes my previous claims.

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#29704 Dec 4, 2012
waco1909 wrote:
<quoted text> I thought you said you were married.Maybe it was just a girlfriend.You also seem to have a persecution complex.Maybe, everyone else is wrong, and Mike is right.unlikely....
So when someone is slandering me, you scold me, and not them? Your double standards are clear and stark.

What you thought is incorrect. Clearly after someone slanders enough, you just believe the lie. I usually do not bother to correct the slander, but Silver is just taking it to far. But I see you still have not condemned him once for it. Double standards.

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#29705 Dec 4, 2012
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>I am going by the claim of Emlu about doctors.
I can show you many bible verses that make for inequality of women. And just look at the Muslim world to see what the old ways of Christianity were.
Women are still banned by many major denominations to be in the hierarchy of the church. Mormons, Catholics are just a few. That is clearly non equality.
<< 1 Timothy 2:12 >>
New International Version (1984)
I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.
Genesis 3:16
Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
Colossians 3:18
Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.
Not exactly a culture of equality. It takes secularism to do that.
Mike, you need to brush up on your religions. There are plenty of religions that allow women a place in the hierarchy of their religion. There are women priests in the Catholic denomination, women rabbis in the Jewish religion, there are women pastors in Baptist, Pentecostal, Methodist, Lutheran, Episcopalian(bad spelling I know) etc. Treating a woman as an equal is called individualism and respect learned from parents even if you don't believe in God, apparently you're the exception to the rule, not the rule. The disdain men, i.e. you, show women on this forum speak volumes about your lack of respect of women as your equal. Since you equate religion with inequality to women, tell me again which faith you're of because you're a mighty fine example of a misogynist.

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#29706 Dec 4, 2012
waco1909 wrote:
<quoted text> Michael D......SOMETIMES...in this bad old world of ours....people just have to disagree.l There are more things in this heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.....
".people just have to disagree."
Reeks of a closed mind running from the alternative views.
If debate is not in you, why come to this forum again?

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#29707 Dec 4, 2012
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>So when someone is slandering me, you scold me, and not them? Your double standards are clear and stark.
What you thought is incorrect. Clearly after someone slanders enough, you just believe the lie. I usually do not bother to correct the slander, but Silver is just taking it to far. But I see you still have not condemned him once for it. Double standards.
Mike....have you ever considered psychiatric help?

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#29708 Dec 4, 2012
Makin bacon wrote:
<quoted text>
Mike, you need to brush up on your religions. There are plenty of religions that allow women a place in the hierarchy of their religion. There are women priests in the Catholic denomination, women rabbis in the Jewish religion, there are women pastors in Baptist, Pentecostal, Methodist, Lutheran, Episcopalian(bad spelling I know) etc. Treating a woman as an equal is called individualism and respect learned from parents even if you don't believe in God, apparently you're the exception to the rule, not the rule. The disdain men, i.e. you, show women on this forum speak volumes about your lack of respect of women as your equal. Since you equate religion with inequality to women, tell me again which faith you're of because you're a mighty fine example of a misogynist.
I treat the women here as equals. You and your team seem to want special treatment. Sorry, but I keep consistent standards, unlike your team.

Yes, many religions are now allowing women some higher positions. But only recently. The thousands of years of suppression in the culture is not going to wear off everyone just because the feminist movement wore down the commands of god in the bible and the religious rule.
The day I see a female pope, we can talk. I question your claim of women being allowed to be Catholic priests. But you did not say Catholic, did you?
Women have been held back by the religion due to scripture.

You cite a few denominations that allow women to be in higher positions. But is it equal or even close? No. There may be a few here and there. Why? Coincidence?

I hear the southern Baptist convention does not allow women in the clergy. Why not? I guess they cannot have suffer a woman to teach as the bible commands.

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#29709 Dec 4, 2012
waco1909 wrote:
<quoted text> Mike....have you ever considered psychiatric help?
Have you considered giving a relevant answer to a post?

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#29710 Dec 4, 2012
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>I treat the women here as equals. You and your team seem to want special treatment. Sorry, but I keep consistent standards, unlike your team.
Yes, many religions are now allowing women some higher positions. But only recently. The thousands of years of suppression in the culture is not going to wear off everyone just because the feminist movement wore down the commands of god in the bible and the religious rule.
The day I see a female pope, we can talk. I question your claim of women being allowed to be Catholic priests. But you did not say Catholic, did you?
Women have been held back by the religion due to scripture.
You cite a few denominations that allow women to be in higher positions. But is it equal or even close? No. There may be a few here and there. Why? Coincidence?
I hear the southern Baptist convention does not allow women in the clergy. Why not? I guess they cannot have suffer a woman to teach as the bible commands.
Yes, I did say Catholic. RCWP--Roman Catholic Women Priests. Seven wowmen were ordained in 2002 and how minister in over 29 states in our country.
I could be wrong about the Southern Baptist; however, they allow women to speak and teach to congregations of men and women, but they're not called "pastors". You'll have to ask Arnold about your questions regarding the Southern Baptist as I don't belong to that denomination.

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#29711 Dec 4, 2012
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>".people just have to disagree."
Reeks of a closed mind running from the alternative views.
If debate is not in you, why come to this forum again?
Ohh my.You want to bring up a"closed"mind! Incredible! You mind is closed Like a steel trap! I don't come here for an exchange of condemnations....I come here for an exchange of ideas.Your idea of a good post is bad-mouthing the person you are posting.You continually portray yourself as maligned and persecuted.For whatever reason, you are almost invariably unpleasant, at best.

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#29712 Dec 4, 2012
Makin bacon wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, I did say Catholic. RCWP--Roman Catholic Women Priests. Seven wowmen were ordained in 2002 and how minister in over 29 states in our country.
I could be wrong about the Southern Baptist; however, they allow women to speak and teach to congregations of men and women, but they're not called "pastors". You'll have to ask Arnold about your questions regarding the Southern Baptist as I don't belong to that denomination.
OK, I will take your word for it. Twenty one states still have no women Catholic priests.
I see you are going to just keep nit picking and not address any of my points. Fact is, religion suppresses equality for women.

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#29713 Dec 4, 2012
waco1909 wrote:
<quoted text> Ohh my.You want to bring up a"closed"mind! Incredible! You mind is closed Like a steel trap! I don't come here for an exchange of condemnations....I come here for an exchange of ideas.Your idea of a good post is bad-mouthing the person you are posting.You continually portray yourself as maligned and persecuted.For whatever reason, you are almost invariably unpleasant, at best.
Easy to make broad stroke accusations with no evidence.
What ideas are you exchanging? You refuse to articulate what you think might make Denmark have lower crime rates.
Looks like your main concern is bitching about me.

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#29714 Dec 4, 2012
waco1909 wrote:
<quoted text> Ohh my.You want to bring up a"closed"mind! Incredible! You mind is closed Like a steel trap! I don't come here for an exchange of condemnations....I come here for an exchange of ideas.Your idea of a good post is bad-mouthing the person you are posting.You continually portray yourself as maligned and persecuted.For whatever reason, you are almost invariably unpleasant, at best.
Now how can you judge if my mind is closed, when you and your friends refuse to offer a full debate and attempt to support their positions?
If you wish to see someone change their minds, you must sell your ideas. You do not even attempt a sell.

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#29715 Dec 4, 2012
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>I treat the women here as equals. You and your team seem to want special treatment. Sorry, but I keep consistent standards, unlike your team.
Yes, many religions are now allowing women some higher positions. But only recently. The thousands of years of suppression in the culture is not going to wear off everyone just because the feminist movement wore down the commands of god in the bible and the religious rule.
The day I see a female pope, we can talk. I question your claim of women being allowed to be Catholic priests. But you did not say Catholic, did you?
Women have been held back by the religion due to scripture.
You cite a few denominations that allow women to be in higher positions. But is it equal or even close? No. There may be a few here and there. Why? Coincidence?
I hear the southern Baptist convention does not allow women in the clergy. Why not? I guess they cannot have suffer a woman to teach as the bible commands.
Part of a series on
Christianity
and Gender
Theology

Female disciples of Jesus
Gender roles in Christianity
Jesus' interactions with women
List of women in the Bible
Paul of Tarsus and women
Women as theological figures
Women in the Bible
4 major positions

Christian egalitarianism
Christian feminism
Complementarianism
Biblical patriarchy
Church and society

Christianity and homosexuality
Ordination of women
Women in Church history
Organizations

Christians for Biblical Equality
Council on Biblical Manhood and Womanhood
Evangelical and Ecumenical Women's Caucus
Theologians and authors
Feminist:
Letha Dawson Scanzoni Anne Eggebroten Virginia Ramey Mollenkott
Egalitarian:
William J. Webb Kenneth E. Hagin Gordon Fee Frank Stagg Paul Jewett Stanley Grenz Roger Nicole
Complementarian:
Don Carson John Frame Wayne Grudem Douglas Moo Paige Patterson John Piper Vern Poythress
Patriarchal:
Doug Phillips R. C. Sproul, Jr. Douglas Wilson

Some "light reading" for you

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#29716 Dec 4, 2012
There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

Galatians 3:28

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#29717 Dec 4, 2012
Full equality

African Methodist Episcopal Church
American Baptist Churches USA
Anglican Church in North America
Assemblies of God
Association of Vineyard Churches
Baptist Union of Great Britain
Christians for Biblical Equality
Church of Scotland
Church of the Brethren
Episcopal Church
Evangelical Covenant Church
Evangelical Lutheran Church in America
Evangelische Kirche in Deutschland
Free Methodist Church
Mennonite Church USA
Presbyterian Church of Canada
Presbyterian Church USA
Religious Society of Friends (Quakers) Quakers have always believed in the legitimacy of women's ministry, with only a few exceptions in the early years. In 1848 at a conference in Seneca Falls, New York, 100 men and women signed a declaration that "all men and women are created equally." Early leaders of the movement were women, including Lucretia Mott.
United Church of Canada
United Church of Christ
United Methodist Church
Uniting Church in Australia
Protestant Church in the Netherlands
Church of Denmark
Evangelical Lutheran Church of Finland
Church of Iceland
Church of Norway
Church of Sweden

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#29718 Dec 4, 2012
Mike there is no debating with you.On religion, especially.Am I going to convince you that Christ is your savior? Doubtful.Are you going to convince me that Christ is a lie? No.You see Mike, some things are beyond debate.I WILL debate about the"fiscal cliff".How about you old man?

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over there.

#29719 Dec 4, 2012
Christianity is dying. the bible is not a relevant orchestration of proof anymore. my God does not care about mans government or how he he governs, only the individual. to believe and to think that something as far complex as God can be understood and translated into partisan political views is ....well stupid.
science cured influenza, religion flew 2 planes into a building. Islam and Christianity are equally violent and evil, crusades..taliban, whoever subscribes to a religion (not speaking for my God, only in my opinion alone) that has partook in the countless violations of basic humanity throughout thousands of years, inherits the evil and violence of which man has brought forth from the name of God. as i believe, My god has a special place reserved for the select catholic and christian preachers in the void of their own insanity. Proof?
billy graham

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#29720 Dec 4, 2012
sevenSecrets wrote:
Christianity is dying. the bible is not a relevant orchestration of proof anymore. my God does not care about mans government or how he he governs, only the individual. to believe and to think that something as far complex as God can be understood and translated into partisan political views is ....well stupid.
science cured influenza, religion flew 2 planes into a building. Islam and Christianity are equally violent and evil, crusades..taliban, whoever subscribes to a religion (not speaking for my God, only in my opinion alooone) that has partook in the countless violations of basic humanity throughout thousands of years, inherits the evil and violence of which man has brought forth from the name of God. as i believe, My god has a special place reserved for the select catholic and christian preachers in the void of their own insanity. Proof?
billy graham
Nothing you have said makes much Sense.....don't follow preachers, I follow GOD.Men always mess things up.The CATHOLIC church is a religious organization.I don't follow a pope, I follow GOD.People commit sins....murders...rape...for a variety of"reasons". Anything is a good excuse.You don't like the 94 year old Billy Graham? So?, I like the guy a lot.

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