Snore

Gastonia, NC

#29636 Dec 4, 2012
Makin bacon wrote:
<quoted text>
Not Snore Mike, but I believe you have a double standard for yourself and others. The other day when Snore made the comment that Jews own the world and I posted statistics that I researched, you didn't believe them. Anyone that has been on here very long knows I don't debate anything math related, so you should have known I didn't make those statistics up. You didn't ask for a link where I got my information, IMO, you didn't like the answer I gave and basically called me a liar. So why should you crack on someone who calls you out about you not giving links and only your opinion and then doubt us when we give statistics or our opinion?
Mike, I know this is a debate forum, but one can debate with courtesy and without calling others liars you don't agree with. You know you've done that before and the people weren't lying.
Thank you mame. And Mike--I left 1 icon available for somebody else on Bacon's post. lol
Snore

Gastonia, NC

#29637 Dec 4, 2012
I failed to mention that many of the other posters' posts DO NOT REGISTER WITH YOU. You tell Silver it's only black or white--well he admits it so I'll give him a bone. You, the same only you won't admit to it like a man. And you won't admit to your prejudices against certain human beings. FACT--where is that friggn FACT icon.
Snore

Gastonia, NC

#29638 Dec 4, 2012
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>The whole idea of our government using nukes in a civil war is preposterous, IMHO. Silver seems to think it is likely.
The situations would likely be very different in a civil war. It would be very unlikely an entire city or region would be as united against the government as Japan was against us. It would be very unlikely that the rebels would be killing so many of our side that we would feel nukes would be needed to offset the casualties.
Silver sees everything in black and white,IMHO. So he sees all war as the same. He cannot see the nuances of circumstances. He cannot see the need for various approaches, IMHO.
Seems tedious to put,'IMHO' on so many things. Seems it is clear that much of this is opinion and of my perspective.
lol, IMO

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#29639 Dec 4, 2012
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>What I am to doubt? You did not state it is your opinion Switzerland is better. Showing an article does not tell me your opinion. I want to know what you guys think, not some web sites opinion. Now if you wish to support your opinion with this link, that would be fine, but that is not what you just did.
Mike, you asked a couple posts up for Silver to show you a country that is better than the U.S. As usual, you didn't say financially, living conditions etc, you just asked what country is better than the U.S. and you didn't say what's your opinion. I gave you a link of someone who has been there, done that and also stated statistics than can be corroborated. So what the heck is your problem? You have a habit of dismissing a post if it's only someone's opinion because you can argue an opinion or say the poster doesn't "articulate" their thoughts to your liking, but face it Mike, you can't argue statistics or facts. I'll tell you straight up, if TSF puts out all those statistics and facts he does, I never question, he's usually spot on because he's not using his opinion, he's usually actual data. Try it, you may like.
Snore

Gastonia, NC

#29640 Dec 4, 2012
I was too quick. Your post was quite human-like, imo, so you do have it in you. Really. And you added wit to boot. See, it's not all that hard.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#29641 Dec 4, 2012
Makin bacon wrote:
<quoted text>
Why do you have to offer emotions as negative? I call love an emotion and clearly that's working out for you and Lu. You're posting to Mike who clearly is overtaken by his the emotion of hate. Must be people like him that start wars since he was ready to rejoin the military and fight/kill others in his own country. Geez, get real.
I am ready to kill to protect America from those who use violence against us. Of course a black and white mentality cannot comprehend the nuance here.
I would not need to fight ones who wish to secede unless they first take violent actions. Not sure why you would think otherwise?

Not sure why you would feel I am overtaken by hate? My political agenda is one of trying to help the needy and for all to have equal rights. Not sure how you can spin that to mean I am of hate. But please do try, I would love to hear it.
On the other hand, the republican agenda is not that of care for the needy nor that of equal rights.

Lets see, who started the last two wars we are in? Bush, a republican. Who ended one? Obama.

I am not opposed to the use of force if need be. Key phrase,'if need be'.

Love can be a good emotion, but it can also lead to problems. For example, if one is in love with someone, and they do not love them back, the person might not be able to handle the rejection. Think of the many couples who split up and one cannot deal with the separation of a loved one.

The love for a god can also be dangerous, as evidenced by 9/11. But one need look to that most extreme case for evidence. Many parents have ostracized their own children over disputes of religion. I could go on.
Most anything taken to excess can be problematic, love included.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#29642 Dec 4, 2012
Makin bacon wrote:
<quoted text>
Mike, you asked a couple posts up for Silver to show you a country that is better than the U.S. As usual, you didn't say financially, living conditions etc, you just asked what country is better than the U.S. and you didn't say what's your opinion. I gave you a link of someone who has been there, done that and also stated statistics than can be corroborated. So what the heck is your problem? You have a habit of dismissing a post if it's only someone's opinion because you can argue an opinion or say the poster doesn't "articulate" their thoughts to your liking, but face it Mike, you can't argue statistics or facts. I'll tell you straight up, if TSF puts out all those statistics and facts he does, I never question, he's usually spot on because he's not using his opinion, he's usually actual data. Try it, you may like.
I just told you the problem I have with your post. Clearly you did not get it. Ok, if I was not specific enough, fine, but did you not see I just asked for more specifics? Yet you refuse to address them and just whine about me asking.
Not sure what kind of world you live in that has a question, and an answer and never a need for follow ups.

I recall asking several times, what is a better governmental system in your opinion? It can only be an answer of opinion as it is all so subjective. So why you would tell me someone else's opinion on the question is perplexing.

Now you have a choice, either tell me your opinion of a better governmental system than America's, or whine about me asking yet again.

“physics is your friend”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#29643 Dec 4, 2012
Leers see...Switzerland, Denmark, The Netherlands, Australia, Canada,Norway all look good to me...

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#29644 Dec 4, 2012
Snore wrote:
I failed to mention that many of the other posters' posts DO NOT REGISTER WITH YOU. You tell Silver it's only black or white--well he admits it so I'll give him a bone. You, the same only you won't admit to it like a man. And you won't admit to your prejudices against certain human beings. FACT--where is that friggn FACT icon.
I have mentioned not registering to many on this tread. Not sure how you missed that.

Yes, Silver admits he is black and white. I am trying to point out why being so black and white is problematic.

Yes, sometimes I too am black and white. If you wish to point out one, maybe I can explain why I am black and white on the issue. But broadly stroking my ways without specifics is not so productive.

I believe the republican theory of economics is not all absolutely wrong. I just personally believe it is not the best for America, nor is moral. I believe it is dangerous to a stable economy, IMO.

I believe the republican theory on religion in government is counterproductive to a civil, equal and free society.
It is of my opinion, and that of many of the founding fathers of this country.

You see, I have opinions, and I have expert opinions to back up my opinions. I have evidences of history to support my positions. If someone questions my claims, I am open to providing those sources and making my case. I rarely see this from the opposing side on this forum. Often, I just see them whine about why they must justify their positions to me. Some even openly acknowledge their mind is closed on the subject and thus refuse to discuss it.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#29645 Dec 4, 2012
waco1909 wrote:
Leers see...Switzerland, Denmark, The Netherlands, Australia, Canada,Norway all look good to me...
They look good, or better than our system? I would like to know why they are better if that is of your opinion?

You see, the whole point of why I asked the question from the start was to see what in comparison is better, specifically. What governmental structures are better than ours and why?

We can only improve if we can be specific about the why's and why not's, so we can analyze them.

“physics is your friend”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#29646 Dec 4, 2012
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>They look good, or better than our system? I would like to know why they are better if that is of your opinion?
You see, the whole point of why I asked the question from the start was to see what in comparison is better, specifically. What governmental structures are better than ours and why?
We can only improve if we can be specific about the why's and why not's, so we can analyze them.
I'll start with Denmark.Low crime rate.They also are not required to spend a huge amount of their GDP on being the worlds"policeman".Hi gh standard of living.Can't post links with this phone, check out Wikipedia and the Encyclopedia Britannica, plus World Almanac, you may be surprised at the quality of life enjoyed by the Sadness.

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#29647 Dec 4, 2012
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>They look good, or better than our system? I would like to know why they are better if that is of your opinion?
You see, the whole point of why I asked the question from the start was to see what in comparison is better, specifically. What governmental structures are better than ours and why?
We can only improve if we can be specific about the why's and why not's, so we can analyze them.
Since you were in the "neighborhood" of these countries, I would think you could offer an opinion as to the comparison. As you said, this is not a "classroom".

“physics is your friend”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#29648 Dec 4, 2012
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>They look good, or better than our system? I would like to know why they are better if that is of your opinion?
You see, the whole point of why I asked the question from the start was to see what in comparison is better, specifically. What governmental structures are better than ours and why?
We can only improve if we can be specific about the why's and why not's, so we can analyze them.
Start with Denmark.Low crime rate.High standard of living.This country does not have to spend huge amounts of its GDP on being the worlds"policeman".Ca n't post links with this phone.Check out Wikipedia and Encyclopedia Britannica, you will be surprised at the success of the Danes.

“physics is your friend”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#29649 Dec 4, 2012
There's no accounting for "SWYPE"Mike.That's "DANES", not"sadness".

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#29650 Dec 4, 2012
Silvercoastcorks wrote:
<quoted text>
Perhaps if you hadn't gone to Germany with the notion that it would be just like America you would of enjoyed your stay more.
Now why would you assume that is what I did? I had no idea what to expect, nor did I have a choice in going there or not.
I do not regret the experience though, and did enjoy it to some degree.
If I were on vacation there, I am sure I would have enjoyed it more so. Being in the army there, I had to endure the harsh weather for long hours very often. The site we worked on was on a hilltop. Some here may consider it a mountaintop. Summers were short.

I cannot really judge the government there, as I was not really affected by it so much, as I lived, played and worked mostly on base.
The local town was small, and had very few conveniences I was used to in America.
It was some beautiful country though. I did get to go snow skiing in the big mountains.

“Arch Nemisis of Democrats”

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#29651 Dec 4, 2012
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>I have mentioned not registering to many on this tread. Not sure how you missed that.
Yes, Silver admits he is black and white. I am trying to point out why being so black and white is problematic.
Yes, sometimes I too am black and white. If you wish to point out one, maybe I can explain why I am black and white on the issue. But broadly stroking my ways without specifics is not so productive.
I believe the republican theory of economics is not all absolutely wrong. I just personally believe it is not the best for America, nor is moral. I believe it is dangerous to a stable economy, IMO.
I believe the republican theory on religion in government is counterproductive to a civil, equal and free society.
It is of my opinion, and that of many of the founding fathers of this country.
You see, I have opinions, and I have expert opinions to back up my opinions. I have evidences of history to support my positions. If someone questions my claims, I am open to providing those sources and making my case. I rarely see this from the opposing side on this forum. Often, I just see them whine about why they must justify their positions to me. Some even openly acknowledge their mind is closed on the subject and thus refuse to discuss it.
ha ha ha, you have had my name in almost all of your postings the last couple of days. I must cause you some seriously sleepless nights.

My wife made the decision for us to leave and my father told me long ago listen to the woman. I did. I love my wife and will do anything for her. Even if it means selling off all assets and moving to a third world country. Wait...we are doing that..

and it is still not enough for the democrat socialist on here and across America.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#29652 Dec 4, 2012
emlu wrote:
<quoted text>Since you were in the "neighborhood" of these countries, I would think you could offer an opinion as to the comparison. As you said, this is not a "classroom".
I do remember how the Germans did not allow Nazi flags or anything of the sort. I certainly do not agree with flying such flags, but I certainly do not agree with banning any freedom to do so.

From what I understand, America has more religious freedom than most European countries. You would be surprised to hear some of the non secular policies of the UK.

Personally I think many European countries get a bit to socialistic. There is a balance to be had.
Snore

Gastonia, NC

#29653 Dec 4, 2012
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>What I am to doubt? You did not state it is your opinion Switzerland is better. Showing an article does not tell me your opinion. I want to know what you guys think, not some web sites opinion. Now if you wish to support your opinion with this link, that would be fine, but that is not what you just did.
BINGO. I knew it would not last.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#29654 Dec 4, 2012
Silvercoastcorks wrote:
<quoted text>
ha ha ha, you have had my name in almost all of your postings the last couple of days. I must cause you some seriously sleepless nights.
My wife made the decision for us to leave and my father told me long ago listen to the woman. I did. I love my wife and will do anything for her. Even if it means selling off all assets and moving to a third world country. Wait...we are doing that..
and it is still not enough for the democrat socialist on here and across America.
As I have said several times, it is fine with me if you leave. Not sure why you are in denial about that. I just like to point out how silly and ironic I think it is.

I keep pointing to you because you make such ridiculous claims and are such an extremist. You are here most consistently and make many claims.
You typify all that I see wrong with the republican party. You typify all I see that is wrong of the republican mentality. You are the republican poster child. Ironic you flee from America. This typifies the way republicans cannot accept democracy and our constitution.

I am kind of surprised you are so subservient to your wife. Seems to contradict how you approach politics. You are unwilling to make any compromises in politics as is the party line agenda.
Seeing how you are such an ass here, maybe you understand that protesting against your wife would make you lose her quickly, so you just bow down to her wishes. Not exactly what I feel is a healthy relationship, but if that is good for you, then fine.

You cause me no loss of sleep though. Your lack of good rebuttals, prove to me, I am on the correct side.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#29655 Dec 4, 2012
Snore wrote:
<quoted text>BINGO. I knew it would not last.
To much for you to articulate what you disprove of?

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